Write Your Heart Out

Kayla Ogden & Rachel Cyr

Two writers. Zero gatekeeping. Maximum drafts. Kayla & Rachel read your stuff, roast their own, and dive into craft, contests, and the messy, hilarious writer life. Drops every other Wednesday. Submit: contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com  • IG @writeyourheartoutpod

  1. 3D AGO

    How to Critique Creative Writing | Writers Groups, Workshops & Feedback

    What makes a good critique in a writers group? How do you workshop fiction without destroying a writer’s confidence? In this episode of Write Your Heart Out, Kayla Ogden and Rachel Cyr dive deep into creative writing critiques, writing workshops, querying literary agents, revising fiction, and the emotional experience of sharing your work out loud. Kayla shares what happened when she submitted the opening chapter of her novel The Cherry Tree (formerly Pillow Forts Down) to a large critique group led by published authors, including surprising feedback about character behavior, realism, scene details, and reader expectations. Rachel discusses receiving revision notes on her own novel Dinner for Eight and why constructive criticism can completely transform a manuscript. The conversation explores:  how to critique creative writing constructively  what makes a good writers group  giving and receiving feedback as a novelist  common workshop mistakes  genre expectations in speculative fiction and literary fiction  querying literary agents  revising first chapters  writing believable characters  AI and speculative fiction concepts  overcoming fear of sharing your writing They also discuss ketamine therapy, old “storybook homes,” Silicon Valley creative culture, AI romance story ideas, and why writers should stop creating rules that prevent them from writing. If you’re an aspiring author, novelist, screenwriter, MFA student, or creative writer looking for honest conversations about the writing life, this episode is for you. Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    46 min
  2. APR 22

    Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash - Does it Live Up to the Hype?

    In this episode of Write Your Heart Out, Kayla Ogden and Rachel Cyr dive into a lively, spoiler-light discussion of Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash—a sharp, darkly funny debut novel that blends family drama, literary fiction, and thriller elements.  From open marriages and rebellious daughters to conspiracy theories, billionaire villains, and unexpected found family, this episode explores what makes Lost Lambs such a standout modern novel—and why readers are calling it one of the most voice-driven books of the year. Kayla and Rachel break down:  The unique narrative voice and character development in Lost Lambs Why the book feels both literary and wildly entertaining The balance between dark themes (like human trafficking and conspiracy culture) and humor  How Madeline Cash pushes back against autobiographical fiction trends  The concept of “compersion vs. jealousy” in the writing world Plus, they chat about:  The rise of book-to-screen adaptations (including Verity by Colleen Hoover)  Why some bestselling authors succeed through emotional resonance over prose style A quick recommendation of Margot’s Got Money Troubles (and why the audiobook is worth it) Whether you're a writer looking to sharpen your voice, a reader searching for your next book club pick, or someone curious about how novels translate to screen—this episode is packed with insight, humor, and honest takes on today’s literary landscape. Buy MJ's Book! Writtenbymj.com 🎧 Perfect for fans of:  literary fiction podcasts, book club discussions, writing craft, debut novels, dark humor books, family saga stories, Colleen Hoover discourse, and author interviews Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    49 min
  3. APR 8

    Storytime 8: Viral by Dan Surber and Slam, Shatter, Scream by Justin Webb. Horror stories for scary days.

    In this heavy yet gripping episode, Kayla and Rachel record from the closet amidst a backdrop of global tension and personal transitions. The duo navigates the "dark energy" of the world by leaning into the stories sent in by their listeners—specifically, two chilling tales of horror that mirror the unsettling atmosphere of the week. In This Episode, We Discuss: A Father’s Perspective on Voice: Rachel reads a thoughtful email from her dad, Dave, who offers a structured and spiritual take on what "voice" means in storytelling—defining it as the different paths multiple characters take toward a single, predetermined destination.Viral by Dan Surber: Kayla reads part one of a meta-horror story involving a "golden boy" university student, a Ring doorbell camera, and a terrifying home invasion. The girls break down the tension-building techniques, the surprise twist, and the mechanics of writing a convincing slasher.Slam, Shatter, Scream by Justin Webb: Rachel reads the first half of a supernatural horror story from a London-based author. The story follows Nicole, an atheist who finds herself spiraling into fear as strange noises disrupt the silence of her apartment—and her increasingly strained marriage.The Nuance of Dialogue: A look at how Justin Webb uses realistic, frustrating marital dialogue to build tension without relying on explicit tone descriptors.The "Darling" Debate: Rachel and Kayla discuss the balance between rich character backstory and the fast-paced requirements of a short story.Featured Stories: "Viral" by Dan Surbur (Part 1)"Slam, Shatter, Scream" by Justin Webb (Part 1)Stay Tuned: We’re leaving you on a cliffhanger! Join us next time for Part 2 of both stories, along with a special reading by Janine Inez and a deep dive into Lost Lambs by Madeline Cash. Connect with Us: Have a story you want us to read? Send us an email! We love hearing from you and—as Kayla guarantees—we can tell the difference between your talent and an AI. "We can't step into the same river twice because the river keeps on moving. So either the river has changed, or you have changed."Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    45 min
  4. MAR 25

    Unpacking Kayla's $1000+ Developmental Edit Letter

    In this episode, Kayla returns from the San Francisco Writers Conference with a lot more than just a fancy hotel receipt. While the "volunteer-to-pitch" lifestyle had its quirks, it led to some major new connections—including the "New Andy" and the brilliantly creative Dr. Janine Inez. But the real heart of the conversation is the 18-page deep dive Kayla received from Cornerstones US. Kayla and Rachel break down the "brutally helpful" feedback on her manuscript, Pillow Forts Down, covering: The Death of the Info-Dump: Why your prologue might be doing too much heavy lifting and how to weave backstory into the action.Deepening the "Why": Moving beyond shock value to explore the emotional core of a character’s hypersexuality.The Big Reveal: Why Fiona McLaren (shoutout to Fiona!) officially categorized the novel as Book Club Fiction and what that means for the road to publishing.Style vs. Substance: Navigating the tricky waters of ethereal death scenes and passive character reveals.We also share a sobering and heartfelt update on Fiona’s current situation in Cyprus, and talk about the actual costs (and massive value) of hiring a top-tier literary consultant. Next time: We’re diving into story time or a look at Madeline Cash’s Lost Lambs. Read along with us! Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    39 min
  5. MAR 11

    What does voice mean in creative writing? WTF is it? We experiment.

    What happens when the thrill of drafting collides with the slog of revision? We open the door on a month of messy pages, tempting new ideas, and the uneasy question: hobby or publication. Kayla makes the case for hiring a developmental editor early, sharing how professional notes outpaced even the best beta reads and saved months of wheel‑spinning. Rachel weighs the cost, the goal, and the head noise of a manuscript with promise. Along the way we look at how to study the market without losing your voice—mining Publishers Weekly deal announcements for clean, high‑signal hooks that reveal how agents position novels. Then we get hands‑on with a craft exercise from The Lab. Kayla reads a sharp scene twice—first through Corinne, a grieving newcomer who wants to vanish, then through Vernon, a too‑friendly neighbor convinced his charm is a favor. Same sidewalk, totally different worlds. The contrast shows how voice isn’t just point of view; it’s diction, cadence, and what a character can’t help noticing. Rachel follows with three versions of a pivotal moment from Dinner For Eight, including a chilling original from Kyle’s perspective that brushes right up against love bombing. We pull apart how language encodes power, how manipulation performs as tenderness, and why a sentence’s rhythm can tilt a scene’s ethics. We close with reading fuel: Madeline Cash’s Lost Lambs has Kayla dazzled and rattled in the best way. That jolt—envy meeting awe—can expand our range if we chase what the sentences actually do. Help us out: define “voice” in a single, useful sentence and send an example that changed your writing brain. If you’re revising, drafting, or debating whether to hire help, this one offers practical tools, a few laughs, and a nudge to choose your goal on purpose. If this conversation moved you, tap follow, rate the show, and drop a quick review. Share the episode with a writer who’s stuck in edits and tell us: what’s your clearest sign a scene truly has voice? Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    39 min
  6. FEB 25

    Storytime 7: Prink Rotary Telephone horror story by Barry Malone, Debtor's Prison and Juliet by Chris Ritchey

    In this STORYTIME episode of Write Your Heart Out, Kayla and Rachel dive into the mailbag to read and critique work from two listeners they’ve never met! The duo travels from the eerie, rain-soaked landscapes of Ireland to the literal depths of the afterlife, finally landing under the vast, star-filled skies of the Atlantic. In this episode, we explore: "Pink Rotary Telephone" by Barry Malone: A chilling horror story about a piece of obsolete technology that rings with a message no one wants to answer. Kayla and Rachel discuss the trauma of the past and the "likability" of a protagonist caught in a supernatural cycle."Debtor’s Prison" by Chris Ritchey: A high-concept look at the afterlife where "scaring" is a quota-based job. The hosts unpack the mystery of a man tasked with haunting the woman he loves most."Juliet" by Chris Ritchey: A shift into the literary genre with a moving piece of historical fiction. Set against the backdrop of the 1986 Challenger disaster, this story follows a young boy’s journey from the depths of depression to a soul-saving sailing trip with his father.Plus, Kayla shares some exciting personal news—she just received her developmental edit letter for her novel, Pillow Forts Down, from Cornerstones Literary Consultancy! She gives us a sneak peek into the feedback from her editor in Cyprus and discusses the "show, don't tell" struggle every writer knows all too well. Please subscribe, rate and review!  New episodes every other Wednesday. E-mail us your short story at contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com Follow us on instagram @writeyourheartoutpod  Leave us a message at 650-260-4885

    1h 4m

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Two writers. Zero gatekeeping. Maximum drafts. Kayla & Rachel read your stuff, roast their own, and dive into craft, contests, and the messy, hilarious writer life. Drops every other Wednesday. Submit: contact@writeyourheartoutpod.com  • IG @writeyourheartoutpod

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