The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano
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Host Anthony “Pomp” Pompliano talks to the most interesting people in business, finance, and Bitcoin. From billionaires to cultural icons, Pomp helps you get smarter every day.

  1. 1h ago

    Inside Google's Billion Dollar Bet To Win The AI Race | Logan Kilpatrick

    Logan Kilpatrick is a member of the technical staff at Google DeepMind. In this conversation, we break down whether Google is actually behind in the AI race, the strategy behind Gemini 4's massive pre-training run, and how DeepMind decides between chasing general intelligence versus building specialized products. We also discuss China's open-source AI labs and why measuring real progress toward AGI might be harder than building the models themselves. ===================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ===================== TOKEN2049 returns to Singapore on October 7–8 at Marina Bay Sands. The world's largest crypto event. 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, 1,000 side events and the whole industry in one place for two days, into the F1 weekend. Get 10% off your ticket with code POMP10 at https://token2049.com/singapore ===================== Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ===================== 0:00 - Intro0:51 - Is Google behind in the AI race?2:47 - Frontier commitment & the Gemini 4 pre-training run8:31 - Build vs. buy: Google's AI acquisition strategy13:13 - Chinese AI labs, competitors & filtering the hype19:03 - The ambition problem & where Google chooses to compete21:39 - General intelligence vs. specialized AI products35:01 - Inside DeepMind: Genome research & the innovation flywheel41:52 - Kaggle & the race to actually measure AI progress48:25 - The AI data economy: why data is the new bottleneck

  2. 1d ago

    Zac Prince on BlockFi, Bitcoin, and GalaxyOne

    Zac Prince is the Managing Director at Galaxy Digital and the co-founder and former CEO of BlockFi. In this conversation, we break down what really happened at BlockFi's collapse, the fraud behind FTX and Alameda that he witnessed firsthand, and the lessons he's applying to risk management today. We also discuss Galaxy One's banking, crypto, and yield products, and what the future of investing and AI-powered finance looks like. ======================= The views expressed by the speakers are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Galaxy or its affiliates. Yield is variable and may change with 30 days’ notice. Galaxy Premium Yield is available only to U.S. accredited investors, is not a bank deposit, and is not FDIC insured. The note is unsecured and may result in loss of principal. Guaranteed by Galaxy Digital Holdings LP, a subsidiary of Galaxy Digital Inc. Staking involves risks, including validator downtime, slash, loss of rewards, and Galaxy cannot guarantee validator performance. ======================= Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ======================= TOKEN2049 returns to Singapore on October 7–8 at Marina Bay Sands. The world's largest crypto event. 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, 1,000 side events and the whole industry in one place for two days, into the F1 weekend. Get 10% off your ticket with code POMP10 at https://token2049.com/singapore ======================= Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital. ======================= Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ======================= 0:00 - Intro1:05 - What really happened at BlockFi?8:09 - Celsius, Voyager collapse & the run on BlockFi10:01 - The FTX acquisition, Sam Bankman-Fried & discovering the fraud13:32 - Lessons applied to risk management at Galaxy16:08 - Silvergate, SVB & the "war on crypto"18:49 - Regulatory politics & the future of crypto policy22:10 - Rebuilding: what Zac learned post crypto war26:36 - What is Galaxy One? 41:43 - AI agents & the future of banking

  3. 3d ago

    Why Bitcoin Wins No Matter What The Fed Does | Jordi Visser

    Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down the timing for the next bitcoin bull market, why the Clarity Act could send bitcoin to $100K, and how AI's exponential progress is leaving the market mispriced. We also discuss the Fed's rate decision, the Trump-Bessent-Warsh alignment on AI and crypto, and why the AI bubble skeptics have it backwards. ===================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ===================== Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at lava.xyz/POMP ===================== TOKEN2049 returns to Singapore on October 7–8 at Marina Bay Sands. The world's largest crypto event. 25,000 attendees, 300 speakers, 1,000 side events and the whole industry in one place for two days, into the F1 weekend. Get 10% off your ticket with code POMP10 at https://token2049.com/singapore ===================== Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ===================== 0:00 - Intro0:57 - Do interest rates even matter anymore? 4:44 - Static vs Dynamic investors9:30 - AI agents vs hedge funds vs retail: the new market structure12:01 - How do you actually value crypto? (Robinhood chain & tokenization)23:09 - Timing the next bitcoin bull market27:05 - AI news dump: Astra, hacking scares & the AGI debate35:27 - The Fed's rate decision: three scenarios42:20 - Bessent, Warsh & Trump's Fed alignment50:54 - Bitcoin, AI & Space as $2 trillion assets

  4. 6d ago

    Billionaire Reveals The 41 Principles That Built a $125B Empire | Chase Koch

    Chase Koch is a member of the Koch family and leads Koch Disruptive Technologies at Koch Industries, one of the largest private companies in America. In this conversation, we break down the 41 principles behind Koch's management system, the values-first hiring philosophy that's helped grow the business 10,000x, and the story behind acquisitions like Molex and Georgia-Pacific. We also discuss Koch's evolution into a tech company and the power of finding your comparative advantage. ===================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ===================== Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) and earn ~8.5% APY on real world assets. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at https://figure.com/disclosures/ ===================== Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital. ===================== 0:00 - Intro1:22 - What is Koch Industries? (scale, history, private company)9:09 - Charles Koch's principles & the Sunday economics lessons18:43 - Hiring philosophy: values first, skill second, credentials last32:05 - Koch as a tech company: Infor, software & AI35:30 - Horizontal capabilities & the Molex acquisition41:47 - Turning acquisitions into principle-based cultures47:03 - Origin story & lessons from near-bankruptcy failures56:50 - Builder vs. operator: finding your comparative advantage1:02:54 - Applying principles to society, bitcoin & individual sovereignty1:08:50 - Stand Together: philanthropy, education & micro-schools1:19:39 - Investing philosophy & finding the next big deal

  5. Sep 8

    China Is About To Catch The US In AI (Here's The Timeline) | Justin McAfee

    Justin McAfee is an AI researcher at Delphi Digital. In this conversation, we break down why Chinese AI labs are closing the gap with America's frontier models, the innovations forced by US export controls, and the pricing war now squeezing OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, and Google. We also discuss the race in humanoid robotics, whether AI can ever solve financial markets, and how the US should respond to stay ahead. ====================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ====================== Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ====================== 0:00 - Intro1:10 - Export controls & how constraints forced Chinese AI innovation4:01 - Could China's AI eventually eclipse the US?7:25 - Chinese AI companies & infrastructure plays to watch12:11 - Meta and Grok's price war, and the squeeze on OpenAI/Anthropic15:07 - How should OpenAI & Anthropic respond to the competition?16:33 - Physical AI & humanoid robots: China's lead18:39 - Can AI ever fully "solve" financial markets?21:11 - Geopolitics: how the US should respond to China24:43 - Biggest concerns: staying in the frontier26:56 - What's happening with AI in Europe?27:36 - Delphi Digital's research & where to find it

  6. Sep 5

    Bitcoin Is Entering Its Most Powerful Wave Ever | Jordi Visser

    Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why rising interest rates may not derail the AI-driven economy, bitcoin's path to new highs and the four-year cycle debate, and how AI agents are already reshaping markets, business management, and crypto adoption. We also cover tokenization, portfolio allocation, and why a 0% crypto weighting no longer makes sense. ======================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ======================== Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital. ======================== 0:00 - Intro0:58 - Why interest rates won't derail the AI-driven economy13:43 - Bitcoin, stocks & the money printing trade20:28 - Tokenization, AI agents & the next wave of investment opportunities22:42 - Bitcoin's path to $100K & the four-year cycle debate29:11 - AI agents are already changing how business gets done35:07 - Markets never sleep: how agents are reshaping trading38:06 - Managing AI agents like a team 46:01 - Using AI to cut through market fear 52:01 - Why every portfolio needs crypto exposure

  7. Aug 29

    Bitcoin to $1 Million?! | Jordi Visser

    Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down bitcoin's historic recovery and the key levels that matter, the fight between Kevin Warsh and Scott Bessent over interest rates, and why Jordi is rotating more of his money into Ethereum and Solana. We also discuss AI agents, tokenization, and just how high bitcoin could realistically go. ====================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ====================== Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ====================== 0:00 - Intro1:01 - Bitcoin's historic recovery & key levels to watch4:49 - South Korea & retail’s role in the bitcoin rally8:56 - Dogecoin, bitcoin & the fundamentally-driven move12:10 - Kevin Warsh, Scott Bessent & the fight over rates22:52 - An AI safety expert's surprising take on bitcoin28:05 - Nvidia's $1B a day & the AI infrastructure trade33:43 - Why Jordi left Wall Street for real-time information37:39 - Is Nvidia stock underpricing its own growth?41:20 - Scarcity, debasement & the bitcoin-gold correlation47:05 - Stablecoins, tokenization & bitcoin as store of value50:53 - How high can bitcoin go?1:01:04 - Jordi’s upcoming video

  8. Aug 25

    Bitcoin Is Going To $250,000 (Here's Why) | Arthur Hayes

    Arthur Hayes is the CEO of Flop Labs and CIO of Maelstrom. In this conversation, we break down Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's money printing playbook, the controversy around Stanley Druckenmiller's AI-written op-ed, and why bitcoin got overshadowed by the AI trade in 2025. We also discuss gold's next move, how Arthur allocates across bitcoin, gold, and public equities, and his new project tokenizing AI compute itself. ==================== Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! ==================== Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp ==================== Uphold is the easiest way to buy and sell crypto unlike any other platform allowing you to trade in just one step between any supported asset. Check them out at https://www.uphold.com/pomp/ This video includes a paid sponsorship with Uphold. I’m compensated by Uphold for promoting its products and services and may receive commissions from referrals. Terms apply. Not available in all jurisdictions. Digital assets are risky and may result in the total loss of your capital. ==================== 0:00 - Intro1:09: - Bessent, Treasury printing & Druckenmiller's op-ed7:21 - Bitcoin & gold's reaction to money printing signals10:06 - Real estate, land & inflation hedges12:55 - Bitcoin's next 12 months & why it lagged AI17:49 - Bitcoin adoption catalysts & sovereign buyers20:49 - Gold's outlook, portfolio allocation & public equities26:14 - Stablecoins, tokenization & real world assets30:15 - ETH will have a hater rally?31:47 - Hyperliquid & Arthur's most asymmetric bet 34:33 - Flop: tokenizing AI compute46:17 - Money printing, scarcity vs abundance & closing thoughts

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Host Anthony “Pomp” Pompliano talks to the most interesting people in business, finance, and Bitcoin. From billionaires to cultural icons, Pomp helps you get smarter every day.

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  • Creator
    Anthony Pompliano
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    1.8K
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    Explicit
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