DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!

  1. Why Even Try? The 322nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    1D AGO

    Why Even Try? The 322nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 322nd Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the Cartesian crisis, whether going to the moon is valuable, and college in the age of AI. Before the ads, we discuss the nature of knowledge, and whether paying attention all the time, to all the things, can backfire and make a personal less capable of comprehension. Later: why go to the moon? An op-ed writer at The Guardian says there’s no point—there’s nothing to see, no one to talk to. We discuss the value of science—not just in terms of what we become capable of doing, but also for the human values of awe and wonder, openness and curiosity. As humans, we must encourage discovery, innovation, and exploration; we cannot cave to the fearful, provincial, and bland. Finally: professors and students are in an arms race over AI. A better move would be to seek two wildly different educational modes: one in which no outside sources of knowledge are available at all (e.g. a remote site with no cell service), and classroom-based work that encourages engagement and learning from and with the AI. ***** Our sponsors: Branch Basics: Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code DARKHORSE at https://branchbasics.com/darkhorse #branchbasicspod Puori: Amazingly clean and safe supplements and protein powders, lab tested and guaranteed. Go to http://Puori.com/DarkHorse for 32% off grass-fed whey protein with a subscription. DarkHorse code works on all products! MUD\WTR: Start your new morning ritual & get up to 43% off your @MUDWTR with code DARKHORSE at http://mudwtr.com/darkhorse #mudwtrpod ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com/ Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org ***** Mentioned in this episode: Guardian op-ed: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/07/artemis-ii-space-travel-moon NASA’s take: https://www.nasa.gov/missions/nasa-answers-your-most-pressing-artemis-ii-questions/ TikTok video: https://x.com/LaNativePatriot/status/2042882244034076747 Support the show

    1h 32m
  2. The Games We Play: The 321st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    4D AGO

    The Games We Play: The 321st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 321st Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss AI, Iran, Trump, emergencies in the state of Washington, and stories from the Covid era. Anthropic, which makes Claude, announced that they are halting the release of their latest model due to unexpected capacities it has revealed. We discuss trade-offs, exploration, and game theory as they pertain to bats and planes, cats and humans, and LLMs. Then: did Trump make a genocidal threat against Iran? And: what emergency in the state of Washington could possibly apply to college tuition, out-of-state militias, accurate representation of sex on government IDs, and responding to pandemics? Answer: all the legislature has to do to make their ideas referendum-proof is declare that they are responding to an emergency—they do not even have to say what the emergency is. Finally: our memories of the Covid Era have begun to fade and morph, but it is important that we keep them alive. ***** Our sponsors: Xlear: Xylitol nasal spray that acts as prophylaxis against respiratory illnesses by reducing the stickiness of bacteria and viruses. Find Xlear online, or at your local pharmacy, grocery store, or natural products store. Caraway: Non-toxic, highly functional & beautiful cookware and bakeware. Save with Caraway’s cookware set and visit http://Carawayhome.com/DH10 to for an additional 10% off your next purchase. Puori: Amazingly clean and safe supplements and protein powders, lab tested and guaranteed. Go to http://Puori.com/DarkHorse for 32% off grass-fed whey protein with a subscription. DarkHorse code works on all products! ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org ***** Mentioned in this episode: Bret on Trump on Iran: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/2041543705325347266 Glenn Greenwald on Lebanon: https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/2041906094818156646 Nguyen op-ed in Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/im-not-a-millionaire-i-dont-think-we-need-a-millionaires-tax/ Nguyen on X: https://x.com/VietQNguyen Nguyen’s WA tracker: https://picsterola.github.io/wa-ec-tracker/#/ Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories The Symptoms I Carry: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/the-symptoms-i-carry Support the show

    1h 51m
  3. Are we back in the stone age? The 320th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    APR 4

    Are we back in the stone age? The 320th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 320th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss whether it can happen here, or again. It is genocide. Growing up in a secular Jewish household in the 1970s and ‘80s, Bret remembers many discussions of whether it could happen again, and where, but it seems to be assumed that the repeated targets of atrocities cannot themselves ever engage in atrocity. Is this true? We discuss lineage selection, the nature of history and memory, diaspora, Israel. Also, the belligerence of the U.S. again Iran. Then: Washington state is allowing non-citizens to become peace and corrections officers, but if any in those positions make mean gestures or social media posts, they can be fired. Toxicity of both stripes—masculine and feminine—are in command in our political landscape, and we seem to have no good options. ***** Our sponsors: ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to http://www.armra.com/DARKHORSE to get 30% off your first order. CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at http://JoinCrowdHealth.com to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to http://www.HelixSleep.com/DarkHorse to get 20% off sitewide. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com/ Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org Thumbnail: Pool/Getty Images News ***** Mentioned in this episode: Sinclair Lewis, It Can’t Happen Here: https://www.alibris.com/It-Cant-Happen-Here-Sinclair-Lewis/book/3376310?qsort=p&matches=117 Let that sink in: https://x.com/LibyaLiberty/status/2039695385464017281 Trump on Iran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LJMfd0gYc8&t=992s WA state bill 5068: https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5068.SL.pdf?q=20260404090142 Support the show

    1h 47m
  4. This Reflects Badly: The 319th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    APR 1

    This Reflects Badly: The 319th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 319th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss space mirrors and the state of Washington state. Reflect Orbital is a young company that hopes to put tens of thousands of mirrors in orbit around the planet, and deliver “full moon to high noon” levels of light anyplace on Earth, on demand (for the right price). What could go wrong? Also: Washington state has voted in the first ever income tax (for high earners), quick on the heels of its first ever capital gains tax, while still having some of the highest estate, sales, property, and fuel taxes in the country. Meanwhile, the cost of living is skyrocketing, and the quality of services declining. Our highways are third worst in the nation; our cities are filthy and unsafe; our schools are miseducating children (at best). Is the money being used for anything useful? ***** Our sponsors: Timeline: Accelerate the clearing of damaged mitochondria to improve strength and endurance: Go to http://www.timeline.com/darkhorse and use code darkhorse for 20% off your first order. SaunaSpace: deep radiant heat from red and infrared incandescence—detox and decrease pain, reverse screen fatigue and improve your mood. Through April 26, get a free Glow with sauna purchase ($695 value), and go to http://Sauna.Space/DarkHorse for 10% off sitewide.  Caraway: Non-toxic, highly functional & beautiful cookware and bakeware. Save with Caraway’s cookware set, and visit http://Carawayhome.com/DH10 to for an additional 10% off your next purchase. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org ***** Mentioned in this episode: Reflect Orbital: https://www.reflectorbital.com Dark Sky International’s take: https://darksky.org/news/organizational-statement-reflect-orbital/ WA’s affordability crisis: https://www.waroundtable.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/WRT_AffStudy_FINAL_3.20.26.pdf Ferguson signs the millionaire’s tax into law: https://x.com/BobFergusonGov/status/2039085857655951831 WA senate bill 6346: https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Passed%20Legislature/6346-S.PL.pdf WA capital gains tax: https://dor.wa.gov/forms-publications/publications-subject/special-notices/new-tiered-rates-washingtons-capital-gains-tax NPR podcast (KUOW’s Booming) on millionaire’s taxes: https://podscan.fm/podcasts/booming/episodes/is-millionaire-migration-really-a-thing-lessons-from-states-that-already-tax-the-rich Support the show

    1h 24m
  5. Careful Thinking in Reckless Times: The 318th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    MAR 25

    Careful Thinking in Reckless Times: The 318th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 318th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss how to understand our universe: through logic, intuition, and probability, through keeping track of what we believe, and being willing to change our minds. Avoiding certainty is difficult, but necessary. Using examples of who killed Charlie Kirk, and whether the venue where he was speaking suggests black magic, we discuss how to make sense of the world in a scientific way. Meanwhile in Washington: a $1 bill is booked into evidence. ***** Our sponsors: Vanman: Go to https://vanman.shop/darkhorse26 and use code DARKHORSE26 for 15%  off your first order. Xlear: Xylitol nasal spray that acts as prophylaxis against respiratory illnesses by reducing the stickiness of bacteria and viruses. Find Xlear online, or at your local pharmacy, grocery store, or natural products store. Branch Basics: Excellent, effective, simple, truly non-toxic cleaning supplies. Get 15% off with code DarkHorse at https://branchbasics.com. ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org  ***** Mentioned in this episode: Organization for Tropical Studies: https://obfs.org/field-station/la-selva-research-station-ots/ Sheriff’s Log: https://sanjuanislander.com/lawenforcement/ Support the show

    1h 40m
  6. Is Cell Phone Radiation Good For You? The 317th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    MAR 18

    Is Cell Phone Radiation Good For You? The 317th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 317th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss radiation and its impact on (rodent) health, and the 9th circuit’s decision to let men use women’s spas. First: research published in 2018 finds that low levels of non-ionizing radiation—like that emitted by cell phones and air pods—are actually associated with life extension in mice and rats. Don’t get too excited—these are the same rodents whose breeding protocols have broken them in some counter-intuitive ways, including that low doses of toxins or radiation can actually slow down the cancer that will otherwise kill them. Then: Olympus Spa, a traditional Korean nude spa for women in the Seattle area, was told by the state of Washington, now upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, that they must let men in, so long as those men think they’re women. Judge VanDyke’s dissent correctly summarizes the issue as one of “swinging dicks.” ***** Our sponsors: CrowdHealth: Pay for healthcare with crowdfunding instead of insurance. It’s way better. Use code DarkHorse at http://JoinCrowdHealth.com to get 1st 3 months for $99/month. Toups: Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://toupsandco.com/DARKHORSE, and use code DARKHORSE for 25% off your first order. Puori: Amazingly clean and safe supplements and protein powders, lab tested and guaranteed. Go to http://Puori.com/DarkHorse for 32% off grass-fed whey protein with a subscription. DarkHorse code works on all products! ***** Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com/ Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned) Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org ***** Mentioned in this episode: Toxicology and carcinogenesis in mice exposed to radio frequency radiation, 2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK564529/#S9 Thread on this research: https://x.com/zanehkoch/status/2033400775762964601 JAX lab on telomere length: https://www.jax.org/news-and-insights/2020/july/telomere-length-in-mice Breeding protocols: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK500423/ Weinstein & Ciszek 2002: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11909679/ 9th Circuit on Olympus Spa letting men in:https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2026/03/12/23-4031.pdf Support the show

    2 hr
  7. Unholy War: A Conversation with Tucker Carlson on DarkHorse

    MAR 12

    Unholy War: A Conversation with Tucker Carlson on DarkHorse

    Bret Weinstein speaks with Tucker Carlson on the subject of the Iran War and accusations of bigotry. Find Tucker Carlson at https://tuckercarlson.com ***** This episode is sponsored by: ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to http://www.armra.com/DARKHORSE to get 30% off your first order. ARMRA Colostrum is an ancient bioactive whole food that can strengthen your immune system. Go to http://www.armra.com/DARKHORSE to get 30% off your first order. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.org Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this Episode: Watch Bret on Tucker Carlson from March 11, 2026 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcc5jUcORUY  Bret on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show in 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9nFced_eo Tucker Confronts Ted Cruz on His Support for Regime Change in Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smemFVe0l5E  Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil https://www.amazon.com/Eichmann-Jerusalem-Banality-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143039881?tag=ustxtaddt-20  Secretary Rubio to the Press: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8WIxGCnr0  Daryl Cooper piece on Babi Yar https://www.martyrmade.com/featured-podcasts/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem  Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse Podcast - Black Intellectual Roundtable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGt733yw3g  The Israel Attacks: Beyond the Obvious with Efrat Fenigson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IAH7PnS_E  USA Patriot Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/3162  Charlie Kirk | PBD Podcast | Ep. 314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ9VOlaBBeo Support the show

    2h 10m
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The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!

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