The Infra Pod

The Infra Pod

The Infra Pod brings you insightful and thought-provoking discussions on the world of infrastructure software. This podcast is started by two engineers, Ian Livingstone (tech advisor for Snyk) and Tim Chen (General Partner at Essence VC), team up with a rotating cast of guests to dive deep into the latest trends and hot topics in the software infrastructure space.

  1. JAN 26

    Let's chat about vibe coding & Ralph! (Chat with Dexter at Humanlayer)

    In this episode of The Infra Pod, hosts Tim and Ian sit down with Dexter Horthy, CEO of Human Layer, to explore the evolution of AI coding agents and the future of software development. Dexter shares his journey from building data tools to discovering the real problem: making AI coding agents actually productive for senior engineers, not just juniors. The conversation dives deep into the research-plan-implement workflow that enables engineers to ship 99% of their code with AI assistance, the challenges of getting staff engineers to adopt AI tools, and why most AI coding ecosystems don't actually help you sell to enterprises. Dexter also shares his spicy take on how Ralph-style agents can be even further enhanced. Whether you're a skeptical senior engineer or an AI-curious developer, this episode offers practical insights into what actually works in production AI coding today. [0:00] Introduction & Dexter's JourneyWhy Dexter finally started a company, the failed data catalog pivot, and building an AI janitor for data warehouses [8:00] The Hard Lessons of AI Ecosystem HypeWhy there's no "SAML for AI agents" and what enterprises actually need versus what the hype machine promises [13:00] The Research-Plan-Implement BreakthroughHow to make senior engineers productive with AI, staying objective during research, and making decisions at the top of the context window [26:00] The Vibe Shift & Where We Are TodayWhen respected engineers started believing, the role of Ralph and spec-driven development, and what's working in production [37:00] Spicy Take: Ralph Goes to the Supreme

    43 min
  2. 11/17/2025

    Bazel and the Next Wave of AI Developer Infrastructure (Chat with Alex Eagle from Aspect Build)

    Welcome to Episode 53 of The Infra Pod! Hosts Tim from Essence and Ian from Keycard are joined by special guest Alex Eagle, CEO and co-founder of Aspect Build. In this episode, Alex shares his journey from working on Angular at Google to founding a company around Bazel, Google's open-source build tool. The conversation dives deep into the challenges and motivations behind building developer infrastructure, the evolution of CI/CD systems, and the unique strengths and hurdles of adopting Bazel in organizations of all sizes. The trio explores the future of software development, the impact of AI on coding and build systems, and the ongoing debate between monorepos and polyrepos. Alex also discusses Aspect's mission to make Bazel more accessible and the broader implications for developer productivity in an agentic, AI-driven world. Whether you're a platform engineer, open-source enthusiast, or just curious about the future of build tools, this episode is packed with insights and spicy predictions for the future of developer infrastructure. 00:00 – Introduction & Guest BackgroundTim and Ian introduce Alex Eagle, who shares his journey from Google to founding Aspect Build. 04:20 – Why Bazel?Alex explains the motivation behind focusing on Bazel, its challenges, and the analogy to municipal infrastructure. 10:55 – Bazel in the Real WorldDiscussion on Bazel’s adoption, who should use it, and the hurdles organizations face. 21:06 – The Future: AI, Agents, and Build SystemsExploring how AI and agentic coding are changing developer infrastructure and Bazel’s evolving role. 43:01 – Closing & TakeawaysFinal thoughts, how to learn more about Aspect and Bazel, and episode wrap-up.

    45 min

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The Infra Pod brings you insightful and thought-provoking discussions on the world of infrastructure software. This podcast is started by two engineers, Ian Livingstone (tech advisor for Snyk) and Tim Chen (General Partner at Essence VC), team up with a rotating cast of guests to dive deep into the latest trends and hot topics in the software infrastructure space.

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