Zionists DICTATING US Foreign Policy, HORRIFYING Real Gaza Death Toll Range Revealed- Susan Abulhawa

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On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Susan Abulhawa, Founder and Director of Playgrounds for Palestine and best-selling author of ‘Mornings in Jenin’. She discusses the Playgrounds for Palestine initiative and its evolution into concentrating on education for Palestinian children facing bombing and starvation, the Western media’s ’active participation’ in Israel’s genocide in Gaza and The Guardian's opposition to her use of the word ‘Holocaust’ to describe the onslaught on Gaza, her time in Gaza this year and why the reality on the ground is ‘infinitely worse’ than is being reported, Israel’s mass degradation of Palestinian society, why she wishes she never left Gaza and the feeling of complicity and survivor’s guilt, Zionists dictating US foreign policy under the Biden Administration and previous administrations, and her lack of hope for the incoming second Trump administration. In the second half of the interview, she discusses her estimated real death toll in Gaza which she says in the range of 194,000-514,000 people killed, whether Biden Administration officials will be held accountable for the genocide in Gaza, why such a large segment of the US population voted for Kamala Harris despite her participation in the genocide, the awakening of the American public to the lies of pro-Israel propaganda, and much more.

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