20VC: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips | NVIDIA Will Be Worth $10TRN | How to Solve the Energy Required for AI... Nuclear | Why China is Behind the US in the Race for AGI with Jonathan Ross, Groq Founder

Jonathan Ross is the Founder & CEO of Groq, the AI chip company redefining inference at scale. Under his leadership, Groq has raised over $3B from top investors. The company has reached a valuation of nearly $7B, positioning itself as one of NVIDIA’s most formidable challengers. Previously at Google, Jonathan led the team that built the first Tensor Processing Unit (TPU), making him one of the leading architects of modern AI hardware.

AGENDA:

00:00 The Future of AI and Compute

05:07 Why the Hyperscalers Have to Keep Spending Recklessly on AI

12:49 Why OpenAI and Anthropic Will Have to Build Their Own Chips

19:47 OpenAI and Anthropic Will be $5BN Companies: The Bull Case

29:50 Why China is Behind the US in AI and Deepseek is More Expensive to Run

33:55 How Europe Could Compete in AI and Why the US is More Risk Averse Than Europe

42:51 Why AI Will Lead to Too Many Not Too Few Jobs

43:19 Deflationary Pressures and New Job Markets

45:51 The Future of Vibe Coding

47:14 Why AI Companies Should Strive to Have Low Margins

49:31 Why We Have to Have Nuclear Energy and How to Bring it Back

56:55 How Permits are Ruining the Potential of AI

01:03:58 Why OpenAI and Anthropic are so Undervalued

01:16:53 Quickfire: Biggest Fear, Nvidia: $10TRN, Zuck Buying AI: Work or Not