Making Cents

Drew Fallon

The go-to finance podcast for the consumer goods industry. Host Drew Fallon brings on experts to cover everything from capital markets transaction to tactical tips on how to scale a company from the CFOs seat

  1. 23 JAN

    E:14 Sam McBride, Founder of Colter Ventures & Ex COO of RXBar on Selling to Kellogg for $600M

    In this episode of Making Cents, Drew hosts Sam McBride, former COO of RXBar and founder of Colter Ventures. Sam breaks down the legendary bootstrap journey of RXBar, which scaled from $2 million to $125 million in revenue in just four years before selling to Kellogg’s for $600 million. They discuss the "No BS" rebrand that experts hated but customers loved, the discipline of using bank debt over venture capital, and Sam’s new investment thesis at Colter Ventures focused on a "generational turnover" of the grocery store. Chapters 00:00 – Health as a status symbol and the future of protein 03:07 – Why Sam left finance to become an entrepreneur 07:39 – Scaling RXBar: From CrossFit gyms to $120M+ in four years 12:10 – The "shaved bodies" story and early founder obsession 16:10 – Transitioning from D2C to massive retail distribution 19:11 – The rebrand: Why experts said the new packaging would fail 25:02 – Bootstrapping with debt: Using credit lines instead of VC 28:56 – Scrappy operations: Negotiating with vendors and mailing checks 35:48 – Pricing strategy: Solving problems to maintain high gross margins 41:21 – The $600M Exit: A bidding war between Pepsi, Mars, and Kellogg 48:15 – Colter Ventures: Focusing on secondary deals and Kettle & Fire 56:47 – The "Familiar but New" framework for category disruption 01:02:11 – Why the next generation of CPG might stay independent

    1h 5m
  2. 15 JAN

    E:13 Amy Haas, Ex Simple Mill CFO on the 10 year journey to $795M sale to Flower Foods

    In this conversation, Drew introduces Amy Haas, former CFO of Simple Mills, who shares her journey from the corporate finance world into the startup environment and the experience of building a successful food brand. Amy reflects on Simple Mills’ early mission, its growth, particularly following the launch of its cracker line and the role private equity played in scaling the business while preserving core values. She discusses the importance of building strong teams, prioritizing sustainable growth, and staying focused on mission rather than market trends. Amy also shares insights from her current work advising early-stage brands and the joy she finds in helping others navigate the food industry. Chapters 00:00 – Acquired by Flower Foods for $795 Million 03:52 – From $500,000 in Sales to 10 Years Through Acquisition 13:59 – Whole Foods to Costco Was Kind of a Crazy Jump 16:01 – Revenue Wasn’t a Hockey Stick, Then a Big Jump Over $200 in a Year 17:25 – Multi-Category Brand Worth $100 Million Plus 22:05 – Capitalizing the Company Without Huge Amounts of Equity 24:30 – Debt, Stonegate, and Chicago Gross Margin Discipline 25:55 – Private Equity Enters and Expectations Change 27:23 – Private Equity TLC to Sell the Business 31:40 – CPG M&A and Founder Obsession With Exits 40:00 – Retail Finance Is People-Intensive 44:10 – Raising Less Capital in a Capital-Intensive Category 45:30 – Life After a $795 Million Exit Advising the Next Wave

    47 min

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The go-to finance podcast for the consumer goods industry. Host Drew Fallon brings on experts to cover everything from capital markets transaction to tactical tips on how to scale a company from the CFOs seat

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