THANKS for doing that

Heather Winchell

A podcast CELEBRATING people and ideas that make this world a better place by exploring the things we do, the reasons we do them, and why IT MATTERS.

  1. Passing the Baton: How Your Story Can Be a Lifeline with Founder Kelly Olson

    1 DAY AGO

    Passing the Baton: How Your Story Can Be a Lifeline with Founder Kelly Olson

    What if the very thing you’ve walked through—the pain, the loss, the questions—is the lifeline to someone else’s hope? In this deeply meaningful conversation, Heather sits down with Kelly Olson, founder and executive director of The Baton Pass, a community helping women move from quiet desperation to connection, healing, and hope. Kelly shares her personal story of trauma, healing, and the moment that changed everything: hearing someone else’s testimony and realizing her story didn’t have to end in brokenness. That experience became the seed of The Baton Pass—a growing movement centered on the power of sharing stories and passing hope from one woman to another. Together, Heather and Kelly explore: What “quiet desperation” really looks like (and why so many women live there)The difference between surviving and becoming an overcomerHow storytelling creates healing—not just for the listener, but the tellerWhy in-person connection matters in a disconnected worldThe beautiful impact of Glimmers of Hope, a handwritten card initiative reaching women in hard seasonsThis episode is an invitation: to bring your story into the light, to receive hope, and—when you’re ready—to pass it on. Kelly Olson is the founder and executive director of The Baton Pass, a growing community dedicated to helping women connect, share their stories, and experience healing and hope. Based in the Chicagoland area, Kelly leads events, initiatives, and programs that create safe spaces for women to move from isolation to empowerment. Resources Mentioned: The Baton Pass website Glimmers of Hope Initiative Engaging your Story Course Warrior Chicks book Catch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

    56 min
  2. Helping Kids Thrive: Inside Pediatric Occupational Therapy with John Murray

    11 MAR

    Helping Kids Thrive: Inside Pediatric Occupational Therapy with John Murray

    In this episode of Thanks for Doing That, host Heather Winchell sits down with John Murray, pediatric occupational therapist and founder of Murray Therapy in Northern Colorado. From his newly remodeled, play-filled clinic space, John shares how his four decades in OT have shaped a deeply relational, strengths-based approach to helping kids and families. John explains what pediatric occupational therapy really is—supporting the “occupations” of childhood: being a son or daughter, sibling, friend, learner, mover, and social explorer.  They dive into practical signs a child might benefit from OT, how modern life and screens are shaping kids’ nervous systems, and simple, powerful habits—like reading, outdoor play, and relational presence—that help children thrive. John talks about how OT looks beneath “behavior” to what’s happening in the nervous system, and why early intervention can change the trajectory not only for a child, but for the whole family system. Books & Frameworks Mona Delahooke – Brain-Body Parenting: How to Stop Managing Behavior and Start Raising Joyful, Resilient Kids Discussed as a key resource for understanding the connection between behavior, the nervous system, and sensory processing.Jonathan Haidt – The Anxious Generation Referenced in the context of how screens, social media, and modern culture impact kids’ mental health and nervous systems.Patrick Lencioni – The Working Genius Framework Mentioned as a model for understanding different “geniuses” at work (e.g., ideation, galvanizing, tenacity) and how people complement each other on teams.Dr. Seuss – Oh, the Places You’ll Go! A favorite read-aloud in the Murray home, especially the section on “The Waiting Place,” used as a parenting tool and shared reference point with his kids.Hank the Cowdog series (John R. Erickson) Cited as part of the Murray family’s shared reading life and the stories they still reference together.The Immortal Irishman: The Irish Revolutionary Who Became an American Hero (Timothy Egan) A favorite adult read of John’s, tied to his interest in Irish history and heritage.Children’s Books on Feelings & Behavior John references a general category of picture books such as The Way I Feel / The Way I Act–type titles that help kids understand emotions and choices.Catch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

    1hr 2min
  3. Work That Energizes You vs. Work That Drains You with Stephanie Leigh Gutierrez

    4 FEB

    Work That Energizes You vs. Work That Drains You with Stephanie Leigh Gutierrez

    In this episode, Heather sits down with her friend and coach Stephanie Leigh Gutierrez to unpack the Working Genius framework—six distinct “gifts” that show up in every project and every team: Wonder, Invention, Discernment, Galvanizing, Enablement, and Tenacity. Together they explore: why some kinds of work leave you energized (and others leave you depleted),how the same genius can be celebrated in one culture and dismissed in anotherwhy timing matters (and how jumping in too early can crush momentum)how Heather’s “Evangelizing Innovator” dynamic plays out with her husband’s “Careful Implementer"and practical ways to apply this to marriage, teams, leadership, and parenting—without putting anyone in a box. If you’ve ever thought, “Why is this so hard for me when it seems easy for someone else?”—this conversation will put language to your lived experience and help you pursue the work you’re wired for. In this episode What the Working Genius framework is—and why it’s so usable in real life.  The 6 geniuses and the “airplane” metaphor for how projects move from start → finish.The difference between Geniuses / Competencies / Frustrations (and why skill ≠ joy).  Why order matters (and how discernment too early can shut down invention).How to build a team map and identify what your organization is missing.  Why some geniuses feel “flashy” and others are quietly essential.Parenting applications: noticing, naming, and celebrating gifts without labeling kids.A simple filter for deciding what deserves your yes (and what needs a no).Resources mentioned Working Genius assessment + resources: Working Genius  Book: The 6 Types of Working Genius  Connect with Stephanie: Drawing From the Well Life Coaching  and stephanielgutierrez.com  Stephanie’s nonprofit: Footrock  Catch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

    1hr 1min
  4. He Is Still Good: Holding Grief with Hopeful Lament

    21 JAN

    He Is Still Good: Holding Grief with Hopeful Lament

    Grief doesn’t just hurt — it rearranges a person. In this episode, host Heather Winchell is joined by writer and counselor Kirsten Black, who invites listeners into honest conversation about grief, suffering, and the faithful wrestle of believing God is good when life doesn’t feel kind. Kirsten shares how writing became both a lifeline and a way of shepherding others through sorrow after the loss of her son, Ezra. Together, they talk about the difference between having a theology of suffering and actually walking through it, why “not grieving as those without hope” doesn’t mean grief gets smaller, and how the kindest thing someone can do for a grieving friend is often simply be present. The conversation also gets practical: boundaries with the news, the “bullseye” of emotional energy, solitude and silence as healing, and what it looks like to extend grace when people grieve in very different ways. In this episode: How Kirsten’s writing began (nonprofit blog ➝ CaringBridge during Ezra’s leukemia journey)What it means to wrestle with God and stay tethered to hope“Theology of suffering” vs. being met by Jesus in sufferingThe question underneath the question: worshiping God for who He is vs. what He doesGrief with hope ≠ less grief (it’s grief that isn’t hopeless)The “bullseye” framework for emotional energy and why boundaries are lovingTools for grieving: solitude, silence, reading when prayer feels impossibleHelping others: cling like Ruth, don’t lecture like Job’s friendsWhen grief styles collide in families (looking back vs. looking forward)Recommended resources: Seasons of Sorrow — Tim ChalliesPiercing Heaven (Puritan prayers in modern language)Gentle and Lowly — Dane OrtlundShout-out (Thanks for Doing That) Patrick Richardson — illustrator/designer IG: @januarybeganCatch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

    47 min
  5. When Words Aren't Enough: Storied Art That Holds Out Hope

    7 JAN

    When Words Aren't Enough: Storied Art That Holds Out Hope

    Northern Colorado artist Jessica Kuddes (JMK) creates one-of-a-kind paintings that feel like windows into redemption—visual “spiritual landscapes” that hold out hope when life is hard. In this conversation, we talk about protected margin, art born from grief, and why imagery can carry us when words can’t.  She challenges my conviction that play doh should never be mixed (but really, how many shades of brown can you make?!?) and talks about how early influences shaped her belief that she is an artist and using that gift matters. In this episode: Jessica Kuddes (JMK) shares how protected margin has shaped both her family life and her creative workThe early influences that formed her as an artist—from color-mixing with Play-Doh to mentors who named her gifts before she believed themWhy much of her art begins with asking God for a picture of a “spiritual landscape”How grief and trauma transformed her relationship with creativity—and why imagery can carry us when words can’tA behind-the-scenes look at a commissioned painting that became a lived reminder of the both/and nature of lifeThe core values behind her work: connection, hope, beauty, and trust that God multiplies small acts of faithHow writing becomes necessary when an idea is “too complex for a two-dimensional image”The story of a Philippians 3–inspired piece that unexpectedly accompanied a friend through betrayal and rebuildingWhy Jessica believes hope doesn’t erase pain—but meets us inside itMentioned in the episode: Colossians 1:24–27 (ESV)  Philippians 3:7–14 (ESV)  Itzhak Perlman — “Greatest Hits (Spotify listing)  Catch more of the story @thanks.for.doing.that.podcast!

    53 min

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