The Conditional Release Program

Jack the Insider and Joel Hill

Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

  1. The Two Jacks - Episode 157 - From Housing Wars to Hate Speech: Albo’s Budget, the NDIS and Anti‑Semitism in Australia

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    The Two Jacks - Episode 157 - From Housing Wars to Hate Speech: Albo’s Budget, the NDIS and Anti‑Semitism in Australia

    This summary was brought to you by NVIDIA Nemotron 3 super. What's that, you ask? I don't really know. It sounds a lot like the other models. It's just another dumb clanker serving you the slop you crave. The timeline is bizarrely detailed. You could probably just read that and skip the show. This model is stupid as it does the thing dumb models do and assume that Jack is me because of the way the transcript goes DESPITE MY PROMPTING anyway I am leaving it in there to show clankers are not going to replace us yet. SORRY I FORGOT TO UPLOAD THIS - BETTER LATE THAN NEVER? --------------------------- In this episode of The Two Jacks, Jack the Insider (Joel Hill) and Hong Kong Jack tear into the Albanese government’s deeply unpopular budget, the polling fallout, and Labor’s failure to sell hard tax changes on housing, trusts and capital gains. They dig into intergenerational equity, how negative gearing and CGT discounts have locked younger Australians out of home ownership, and why the government refuses to “own the lie” on broken tax promises. The Jacks then turn to the NDIS blowout and ask whether the scheme now needs to be torn down and rebuilt from first principles to define who is genuinely eligible and where scarce disability money should go. The main course is the Royal Commission into Anti‑Semitism and Social Cohesion: what its narrow terms of reference miss, why Jewish kids still need security to go to school, how campus politics and parts of the progressive left have turned openly hostile to Jews, and why universities and the ABC are failing basic tests of impartiality and safety. They round things out with a postponed look at Keir Starmer’s woes in the UK, Arsenal’s title, State of Origin squads, an AFL reset at Carlton, the Tasmanian Devils project, and why pokies – not punters on the nags – are still the real engine of problem gambling in Australia. Timeline (with +25 seconds added for theme music)I’ve shifted each timestamp forward by 25 seconds to allow for your theme. 00:00 – Two Jacks back on deck, Hong Kong plansJack the Insider (Joel Hill) opens the show, checks in with Hong Kong Jack, and talks about heading to Hong Kong in December to speak at a Carbine Club lunch and maybe record from Jack’s pub.00:50 – What’s on today’s menuOutline of the episode: the federal budget and polling, the Royal Commission into Anti‑Semitism and Social Cohesion, plus (time permitting) Keir Starmer’s woes in the UK and, as always, a serve of sport.01:20 – Budget reception and grim pollingThe Jacks walk through Morgan, Newspoll and Demos numbers: Labor’s primary stuck in the high 20s–low 30s, One Nation uncomfortably high, and more than half of Australians expecting to be personally worse off under the budget.02:20 – What really matters in a budget: hurt vs “right thing to do”Hong Kong Jack argues the key test isn’t whether people feel worse off, but whether they think the budget is the right thing to do, and how that plays into the “battle of ideas” between Labor/Greens and the Coalition/One Nation.03:10 – Intergenerational pitch that never landedJack the Insider dissects Labor’s attempt to sell long‑term intergenerational reforms on housing, negative gearing and CGT to millennials and Gen X/Y, and why measures that don’t bite until the late 2020s mean nothing to a renter trying to scrape a deposit together now.04:20 – Media honeymoon over and Labor’s messaging shamblesDiscussion of how the government misread the media mood, looked stunned when formerly friendly outlets turned on the budget, and why you must expect pushback whenever you hurt someone with fiscal reforms.05:20 – Housing as the core fracture in Australian societyThe Jacks talk about the structural divide between asset‑rich home owners and shut‑out younger cohorts, with home ownership among 30‑ and 40‑somethings collapsing while overall ownership rates barely move.06:20 – Trusts, capital vs labour and the “death duty” scareThey go into the new tax treatment of trusts, how few people actually have family trusts, exemptions for farms and small business, and Tanya Plibersek’s bungled breakfast TV defence that let the “death duties” scare run wild.07:20 – Keating rides again: capital too lightly taxedPaul Keating’s intervention is unpacked: the argument that the Howard‑era 50% CGT discount helped push house prices from nine times income to 16, and that income is over‑taxed while capital is under‑taxed.08:20 – You can’t sell reform if you won’t own the lieThe Jacks compare Albanese’s handling of broken tax promises with the Hockey/Abbott 2014 “horror budget”, arguing the only way through is to admit circumstances changed, own the lie and explain why you’re breaking it.09:25 – Lessons from the 2014 Hockey–Abbott fiascoThey revisit how that budget enraged almost every demographic, how badly it diverged from public opinion despite elite commentary cheer‑squads, and how it helped end both Tony Abbott’s and Joe Hockey’s careers.10:40 – Can this government reset its pitch?Talk turns to what Labor must do now: scrap the ill‑judged intergenerational “marketing”, articulate clearly that the aim is to rebalance tax from workers to asset holders, and craft a story that can actually be sold.11:25 – NDIS: who’s in, who’s out and can it be saved?With the NDIS projected to save tens of billions over the forward estimates, Jack the Insider worries about vulnerable people being turfed off the scheme and the political heat that will follow.12:15 – Defining disability and rationing scarce careThey debate whether the scheme should prioritise those with severe physical or cognitive impairments, the difficulty of diagnosing conditions like ME/CFS and long COVID, and the unfairness of some mildly affected participants getting full supports while bedridden patients miss out.13:20 – “Chuck it out and start again?”Hong Kong Jack argues that the only way to fix the NDIS may be to go back to first principles: clearly define eligibility, decide what taxpayers can afford, and accept that these are inherently political choices, not just technocratic ones.14:00 – Enter the Royal Commission into Anti‑Semitism and Social CohesionThe show moves to the new Royal Commission: why the Albanese government was dragged into it, public misconceptions about royal commissions as hanging courts, and what they realistically can and can’t fix.14:45 – Royal commissions: shining a light, not magic wandsThe Jacks compare this inquiry with past ones on institutional child abuse and banking, noting how many victims and consumers were left dissatisfied even as some important truths were dragged into the open.15:30 – Terms of reference and an immediate blind spotThey read through the Royal Commission’s focus areas – antisemitism drivers, law enforcement and security responses, the Bondi attack, social cohesion – and point out that live criminal proceedings severely limit any examination of the Bondi killer and his father.16:30 – ASIO, counter‑terror cuts and missed warningsJack the Insider notes reports that ASIO cut counter‑terrorism to its lowest level since 9/11 and questions how that could be justified given far‑right activity, Islamist threats and general extremism.17:25 – From “terror hotlines” to BondiHe recounts his own experiences calling the National Security Hotline: indifference before the Old Parliament House fire versus a swift response after the Wieambilla police killings, and what that says about how inconsistent the system can be.18:30 – Private Jewish security and a ball dropped by NSW PoliceThe Jacks highlight reports that Jewish community security raised concerns with police about the Hanukkah festival at Bondi being a vulnerable target, yet only a handful of officers were rostered locally on the day of the attack.19:30 – What should the Commission actually deliver?Discussion of how much of this will be buried in redacted security recommendations versus visible cultural change, and whether the measure of success is Jewish kids being able to attend school or synagogue without armed guards or harassment at university.20:25 – Is anti‑Semitism worse than any time in the last 50 years?Both Jacks agree that anti‑Semitism has surged, then tease out what’s driving it on the hard right and increasingly in progressive circles.21:00 – From neo‑Nazis to “global puppeteer” tropesThey explain how anti‑Jewish conspiracy theories about control of banking and politics have spread far beyond small neo‑Nazi cells into broader right‑wing ecosystems, amplified by US media figures who frame Benjamin Netanyahu as a world puppeteer.21:55 – The progressive left’s turn against JewsHong Kong Jack describes how the most progressive parts of parties like UK Labour were once full of Jewish members and staff, and how those same spaces are now inhospitable or openly hostile.22:40 – Being Jewish does not equal supporting NetanyahuJack the Insider tells the story of a Jewish oncologist friend in Sydney being accused on social media of “supporting killing babies” simply for trying to explain that many Jews detest Netanyahu and don’t back the war in Gaza.23:35 – Progressive Jews feel politically homelessThe Jacks talk about liberal Jews who marched for every progressive cause now finding their neighbours tearing down hostage posters and abusing them, and how emotionally disorienting that break has been.24:30 – Campus culture: free thought or intimidation?They turn to universities, where Jewish academics and students are hiding kippot and Star of David jewellery as staff and student activists target them under the banner of Palestine solidarity.25:15 – Universities failed the basic test: safetyReferencing Greg Craven, they argue universities like Melbourne have utterly failed to keep Jewish students and staff

    1 h 34 min
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    The Two Jacks - Episode 158 - Trust, Tax, and Turbulence: Budget Blowback, Burnham Bids, and the Teal Question

    Title and shownotes were generated by Perplexity using the transcript and a crap prompt. Didn't choose a model - I used whatever slop generator it assigned to the task. Titles were crap so I pasted two together. Enjoy! Yes, 157 is missing. I forgot to upload it and will do it now. I need to focus on my exam though so TCRP is coming soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ In this episode of The Two Jacks, Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack dig into the political fallout from the Albanese/Chalmers budget, the trust problem hanging over governments since the pandemic, and the growing noise around housing, tax, and capital flight. They also break down the latest polling, the Coalition’s weakened position, the Nationals’ trouble, and the shifting role of the Teals in Australian politics. The conversation then turns to the United Kingdom, where Sir Keir Starmer is under pressure and Andy Burnham looms as a possible challenger, before finishing with a wide-ranging chat on cars, distraction, US politics, and a moving tribute to Neil Danaher. 00:25 — Welcome to the show; Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack kick things off.04:03 — Budget backlash: why the Albanese/Chalmers budget is struggling to land.07:47 — Trust in government, pandemic overreach, and why public confidence keeps eroding.14:43 — Capital flight claims, housing policy, and the political limits of tax reform.19:03 — Polling watch: Labor, the Coalition, One Nation, and what the numbers may really mean.62:38 — UK politics heats up: Sir Keir Starmer, Andy Burnham, Tony Blair, and Labour’s identity crisis.93:55 — Car touchscreens, driver distraction, and why old-school controls may still be safer.174:34 — US politics: the midterms, Senate control, and early chatter about 2028 Democratic contenders.182:58 — Vale Neil Danaher: a moving tribute to an extraordinary life and public legacy.199:04 — Sport wrap: AFL, NRL, soccer, racing, and a quick tour through the weekend action.

    1 h 35 min
  3. Episode 210 - The Guru Judgment ft. Rod '007' Swift

    21 mai

    Episode 210 - The Guru Judgment ft. Rod '007' Swift

    I know you are all hanging out to hear about this and the judgment still hasn't dropped on the NSW Caselaw website (though I hear it's doing the rounds) so here it is. It's really very unedited. In my submission I propose that this episode would have been better if I had Prepared a better document and read the judgment twiceNot had several drinks at the RAC before recordingTook the time to edit itActually researched the things we were inevitably going to discuss But that takes time and time is of the essence. So here it is. I go off on a bit of a ramble about how La Vey satanism is basically edgy libertarianism but I don't really know what I am talking about. Would be keen to look into what the OTO is in a future episode and why cookers are scared of it. I mean, they are scared of everything and the OTO does sound really spooky if you are an idiot. Rod keeps the show on topic well, bless him. Anyway, the episode is about the defo trial and I figure you want it now instead of later - at least Rod was sober. ---------------------------------------------------------- I also forgot to do the CBCo plug at the start - this is what happens when you don't make a proper document. So I want to assure listeners that much like George Soros, the fine folks at CBCo Brewing are still giving us (me) free beers in exchange for dog like loyalty. While George still claims the cheque is in the mail - and I'm starting to wonder - CBCo are filling our cup (my cup) regularly. We love them. CRP10 probably still works. Man their IPA is really, really good. Enjoy!

    1 h 45 min
  4. The Two Jacks - Episode 156 - The Budget, the Backlash and the Broken Promise Problem (Carlton still sucks)

    16 mai

    The Two Jacks - Episode 156 - The Budget, the Backlash and the Broken Promise Problem (Carlton still sucks)

    AI slop as usual. Perplexity Pro this time - on default settings. Once all these free AI subscriptions run out y'all are getting Gemini slop but why not mix it up while we can, eh? This episode takes a hard look at a budget that may not be bold enough for the economic risks ahead. The conversation ranges from inflation and stagflation to housing, NDIS reform, political trust, demographic shifts, and a bruising political landscape at home and abroad. Join Jack the Insider and Hong Kong Jack as they unpack the federal budget, the politics of broken promises, housing reform, inflation risks, NDIS savings, and the broader economic outlook. They also turn to the political fallout in the UK, the rise of Reform, and a sporting wrap that covers Carlton, the AFL, NRL, and Premier League drama. Timestamps 00:00:26 — Budget week begins: first impressions and the shape of the federal budget. 00:01:20 — Negative gearing, CGT discount changes, and trust tax reform. 00:02:29 — Inflation forecasts, Treasury assumptions, and concern about the outlook. 00:03:24 — The Persian Gulf, fuel shocks, fertiliser supply, and global cost pressures. 00:07:06 — Why stagflation is the central economic risk. 00:10:21 — NDIS savings, workforce participation, and target-setting versus reform. 00:13:48 — Housing, intergenerational politics, and the supply problem. 00:18:20 — Tax cuts, the political logic of $5 a week, and voter messaging. 00:28:33 — Broken promises, how governments should handle them, and the media fallout. 00:34:26 — Cos Samaras, demographics, migration, and electoral strategy. 00:41:28 — Farrah by-election results and the rise of One Nation. 00:45:56 — Pauline Hanson, Malcolm Roberts, and scrutiny of One Nation politics. 00:51:26 — Budget headline numbers, spending, infrastructure and defence. 00:56:10 — UK politics: Starmer under pressure and Labour’s troubles. 01:09:40 — Carlton’s coaching shake-up and Michael Voss’s departure. 01:21:48 — Penrith’s orderly succession plan and the Bulldogs’ struggles. 01:25:46 — Premier League, Arsenal, West Ham and relegation pressure. 01:27:08 — England cricket selections and Marcus North’s appointment.

    1 h 31 min
  5. The Two Jacks - Episode 155 - The Iran War Ripple & The Carlton Trauma

    7 mai

    The Two Jacks - Episode 155 - The Iran War Ripple & The Carlton Trauma

    This is such a crap job from Gemini but when you order AI slop I suppose you get what you are given. Welcome back to the Two Jacks. It is May 4, 2026, and today Jack the Insider (Joel Hill) and Hong Kong Jack (HKJ) dive deep into a world teetering on the edge of economic and food security crises. From the "Iran War" closing the Strait of Hormuz to the ongoing "trauma" that is the Carlton Football Club, we’ve got plenty to cover. Show Notes & Timestamps00:00:25 – Introduction & The HK Power Situation The Jacks open episode 155 with a look at Hong Kong’s infrastructure. HKJ reports on building-wide power outages to install 220 new EV chargers—a feat of density that Australia’s regional infrastructure is still struggling to match. 00:01:33 – Defining the "Iran War" The hosts discuss the nomenclature of the current conflict. Is it the US-Iran War, or just the "Iran War"? They explore the complex web of proxies and the long-standing hostilities dating back to 1979. 00:03:51 – Polling & The One Nation Surge A breakdown of the latest Redbridge poll shows One Nation at 27%, the Coalition at 22%, and Labor steady at 31%. Despite the right-wing rupture, Anthony Albanese’s approval rating sees a surprise boost. 00:05:18 – By-Election Analysis: Nepean & Farrah A post-mortem of the Nepean by-election, where One Nation underperformed its polling. Looking ahead to the Farrah by-election, the Jacks debate the impact of "Teal" candidates and the reliability of how-to-vote cards. 00:09:39 – Scrutineering with Julia Gillard HKJ shares a personal anecdote from his time working at the same law firm as former PM Julia Gillard, recalling how she could always spot his unique (and rebellious) preference flows during internal elections. 00:11:30 – Global Economic Strain: Oil, Food, & Fertilizer The closure of the Strait of Hormuz has triggered the largest energy disruption in history. Brent Crude is sitting at $113.40 per barrel. The hosts discuss the dire warnings from the UN World Food Programme: an additional 45 million people could face acute food insecurity by June. 00:18:34 – The Fertilizer Crisis Farmer and listener Lawrence provides boots-on-the-ground intel: nitrogen and phosphorus prices have skyrocketed, creating a "price issue rather than availability issue" that will hit developing nations like Vietnam and Thailand the hardest. 00:30:42 – Inside Iran: Economic Collapse Iran is facing 67% inflation, with red meat prices soaring beyond the reach of those on a $130/month minimum wage. Post-war reconstruction is estimated at $270 billion—nearly 80% of the nation's GDP. 00:37:22 – The Australian Budget & The Housing Divide A preview of the upcoming federal budget. Will the government risk the "demographic card" by making changes to capital gains tax and negative gearing to appease disenfranchised Millennials and Gen Z voters? 00:41:06 – Productivity & The Ghost of Keating HKJ argues that the road to recovery is productivity growth, lamenting the lack of "courageous" leadership seen during the Hawke-Keating era. 01:02:47 – Money Sinks: NDIS & Snowy Hydro 2.0 A look at the $20 billion blowout of Snowy Hydro 2.0 and the sustainability of the NDIS. 01:07:30 – Was the 90s the Pinnacle? A philosophical debate on whether Western civilization peaked in the decade following the fall of the Berlin Wall. JTI and HKJ reflect on the Cold War, nuclear disarmament talks between Reagan and Gorbachev, and our current "downward slope". 01:12:41 – The Scandinavian Model vs. The Mining Lobby Why are the Danes and Norwegians so much happier than us? The hosts discuss Norway’s sovereign wealth fund and why Australia has struggled to implement similar national-building royalty programs due to effective mining industry lobbying. 01:16:03 – Sport: Premier League, NRL, & AFLPremier League: Arsenal and Man City are neck-and-neck with only one point between them. NRL: The Melbourne Storm are in a freefall with seven losses in a row. AFL: Carlton’s "astonishing" lapses continue as St Kilda rips them apart. Is Michael Voss’s coaching future in jeopardy? 01:34:48 – Wrap Up & Next Week’s Preview The Jacks prepare to look at the UK political landscape next week, specifically the "woes" of Sir Keir Starmer and the potential comeback of Nigel Farage. "Eventually, people will get hungry enough and angry enough and will do something. But when that happens, who knows?" — Hong Kong Jack on the situation in Iran. What do you think about the government's approach to the fuel excise and the housing crisis? Drop us a line and let us know!

    1 h 36 min
  6. The Two Jacks - Episode 154 - From Anzac Boos to AFL Blues: Mateship, Migration, and the Myth of the Monoculture

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    The Two Jacks - Episode 154 - From Anzac Boos to AFL Blues: Mateship, Migration, and the Myth of the Monoculture

    AI slop brought to you by Gemini 3 (flash - thinking) and it thinks I am Jack because of the transcript. Whatever. Enjoy the show! There's a TCRP coming soon I promise! Episode SummaryIn episode 154 of The Two Jacks, Jack the Insider (Joel Hill) and Hong Kong Jack dive deep into the complexities of Australian identity. From the controversial booing of the "Welcome to Country" at Anzac Day ceremonies to the historical economic hangover of the White Australia Policy, the duo explores what it actually means to hold "Australian values". They also tackle the latest in UK political scandals, the AFL’s handling of player mental health, and why the Scottish football league might finally see a break in its 40-year duopoly. Show Notes & Timestamps00:00:25 – Hong Kong’s Economic MorassHong Kong Jack reports on the quiet but steady economic decline in the territory as the Iran war impacts fuel and food costs. With almost no local agriculture, Hong Kong citizens are feeling the pinch as airlines cut back on flights and shipping costs rise. A look ahead to next week’s discussion on global food security and the impact of fertilizer shortages on the world's "food bowls". 00:04:14 – Statins and Political Party NamesAddressing listener feedback regarding the use of statins and the regulation of supplements versus prescribed drugs. The hunt for a new right-wing political party name: Why all the "good ones" are already taken or deregistered. 00:06:25 – The Anzac Day "Welcome to Country" ControversyDiscussion on the organised campaign to boo "Welcome to Country" ceremonies during Anzac Day. A debate on the ubiquity of these acknowledgments in corporate and social settings versus their place in national commemorations. Jack the Insider addresses the xenophobic undercurrents appearing in modern political discourse. 00:16:00 – Deep Dive: Australian Values & MigrationThe Values Test: Hong Kong Jack shares his experience taking the Australian values test, describing it as "bizarre" and "a waste of time". Electoral Fairness: Jack the Insider argues that Australia's true values are embedded in its robust, independent electoral system and compulsory voting. Historical Hangover: A look at George Megalogenes’ theories on how the White Australia Policy consigned Australia to decades of cultural isolation and economic underperformance. Integration Success: Lessons from the Snowy River Scheme and how Australia's "integrative multiculturalism" differs from the failed European models. 01:07:27 – UK Politics: Process & ScandalThe pair discusses Keir Starmer’s obsession with "process" and the controversial potential appointment of Peter Mandelson as UK Ambassador to the US. 01:09:47 – Footy & SportElijah Hollands: A sensitive discussion on the mental health episode experienced by the Carlton player during the Collingwood game and the subsequent media fallout. Professional Umpiring: Why the AFL needs to move away from "weekend warrior" umpires and towards a fully professional panel to handle increasingly complex rules. Global Scores: The EPL title race heats up between Arsenal and Man City, while Hearts looks to break the Celtic/Rangers duopoly in Scotland. 01:33:42 – Closing Thoughts: Germany’s 2039 GoalA brief look at Germany’s stated aim to have Europe’s strongest conventional fighting force by 2039—a date that raises more than a few historical eyebrows. Contact the ShowEmail: conditionalreleaseprogram@gmail.com X (formerly Twitter): Reach out to Jack the Insider or find Hong Kong Jack for tips on the HK racing scene. Substack: Check out Jack’s latest writings.

    1 h 37 min

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Welcome to The Conditional Release Program, a podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, crims and con artists. Who would have thought a spicy chest cough would turn everyone so completely mad? Our weekly show covers the conspiracy theorists that created a 'shadow pandemic' of political idiocy and violent ideation within the fringe of politics. From time to time we get our hands even dirtier with true crime deep dives. Jack is a seasoned expert in the true crime genre, having written and spoken extensively about Roger Rogerson, Stan 'the man' Smith and, of course, the Fine Cotton Fiasco. In various episodes he guides us through the dark underbelly of Australian crime in his trademark storytelling style. The world is getting weird and we are getting weird with it. Let's watch as democracy crumbles into a smouldering heap - and take note of the kids carrying the matches and the metho. Hosted by Jack the Insider and Joel Hill with an occasional rotation of guests that generally share our distaste toward the lunatic fringe.

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