Listen without ads: www.patreon.com/dopeypodcast Katie starts at 32 minutes in! This week on Dopey! BEFORE KATEY: We help a young philadelphian struggling with substances - and we celebrate the instant-classic Dopey appearance of Ben Croxton; reads Patreon and Spotify reactions; and announces DopeyCon at the SVA Theatre on October 3! Dave sits down with actor, musician and recovery legend Katey Sagal for an expansive conversation about addiction, show business and nearly four decades of sobriety. Katey traces her story from growing up in Southern California and discovering music as her first escape from social anxiety to being prescribed amphetamine diet pills at 14. What began with pills, weed and alcohol gradually progressed into street speed, cocaine, freebasing, Percocet and a daily need to remain medicated. She remembers singing with Bob Dylan as a teenager, going to dinner with him while he wore no shoes, working with Bette Midler and Etta James, and navigating a music industry where heavy drug use was accepted as long as you made it to the gig. She also discusses her first husband’s heroin addiction, experimenting with heroin herself, driving with ounces of cocaine in her trunk and continually placing herself in dangerous situations to stay loaded. Katey explains how she entered AA while searching for a boyfriend named Spider, stayed sober for several months, relapsed while working in New York and finally got sober for good on August 6, 1986. Only months into recovery, she began playing Peg Bundy on Married… with Children. She talks about telling someone on set that she was sober, working the Steps immediately, and maintaining her recovery as the show became a cultural phenomenon. The conversation also covers Futurama, Sons of Anarchy, meeting Kurt Sutter in a Twelve Step meeting, sponsorship, service, gratitude, Al‑Anon and why addiction continues to surface through food, shopping, control and obsessive thinking—even after the drugs are gone. Before Katey joins the show, Dave responds to a 23-year-old listener struggling with pyrazolam, kratom, marijuana and alcohol; celebrates Ben Croxton’s . The episode closes with Jake from West Virginia performing a banjo cover of “I Wanna Be Good So Bad,” complete with an original third verse. All that and MORE! on a brand new episode of dopey! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.