Conor McCabe sits down with CLEAR Conversations host, Tracy Sellers. At the CLEAR Center at UC Davis, researchers spend their days asking a big question with global stakes: how can we raise livestock in ways that are more climate-friendly? For PhD student Conor McCabe, now approaching the end of his fifth year in the Mitloehner Lab, that question has fueled not just one research project—but nearly an entire year of long days, early mornings, and a sprawling scientific effort that spans animals, microbes, emissions, and the future of food systems. McCabe didn’t start out as a dairy kid. He grew up on a small farm in Oregon—“pretty much an Old McDonald’s farm,” he jokes—with pigs, cattle, pumpkins, and Christmas trees. His mother once served as a dairy princess, but dairy cattle weren’t part of Connor’s life until college. After studying animal science across Cornell, Purdue, and now UC Davis, he’s seen “different pockets of cows across the country,” as he puts it. But it wasn’t until arriving at Davis that he found the right intersection of ruminant biology and real-world impact. Text File: 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:00:11 Because at the 00:00:00:11 - 00:00:01:07 end of the day, 00:00:01:07 - 00:00:02:06 what we're 00:00:02:06 - 00:00:02:18 thinking about 00:00:02:18 - 00:00:03:19 how can we 00:00:03:19 - 00:00:04:22 improve nutrition, 00:00:04:22 - 00:00:06:07 how can we reduce 00:00:06:07 - 00:00:07:02 environmental impacts, 00:00:07:02 - 00:00:08:12 and how can we help with 00:00:08:12 - 00:00:09:09 the billions of people 00:00:09:09 - 00:00:10:12 that are involved 00:00:10:12 - 00:00:12:01 in livestock systems. 00:00:12:01 - 00:00:12:12 Think about 00:00:12:12 - 00:00:13:08 how do we create more 00:00:13:08 - 00:00:14:07 sustainable food systems, 00:00:14:07 - 00:00:14:23 at least for 00:00:14:23 - 00:00:15:23 for the rest of my 00:00:15:23 - 00:00:23:10 my career here. 00:00:23:12 - 00:00:24:03 Welcome to 00:00:24:03 - 00:00:25:14 Clear Conversations. 00:00:25:14 - 00:00:25:20 You know, 00:00:25:20 - 00:00:26:11 the clear center. 00:00:26:11 - 00:00:27:03 Our researchers 00:00:27:03 - 00:00:27:23 are testing ways 00:00:27:23 - 00:00:28:19 to make livestock 00:00:28:19 - 00:00:30:01 more climate friendly. 00:00:30:01 - 00:00:30:10 And today, 00:00:30:10 - 00:00:31:02 we're going to be talking 00:00:31:02 - 00:00:31:08 to one of 00:00:31:08 - 00:00:32:08 those researchers. 00:00:32:08 - 00:00:32:21 His name is 00:00:32:21 - 00:00:33:13 Conor McCabe, 00:00:33:13 - 00:00:34:10 and he's a 00:00:34:10 - 00:00:35:06 PhD student in the 00:00:35:06 - 00:00:36:07 Mitloehner lab. 00:00:36:07 - 00:00:36:20 He is working 00:00:36:20 - 00:00:38:00 with feed additives 00:00:38:00 - 00:00:38:17 with dairy cows. 00:00:38:17 - 00:00:39:09 And he's going to tell us 00:00:39:09 - 00:00:39:20 a little bit 00:00:39:20 - 00:00:41:01 about his research today. 00:00:41:01 - 00:00:41:09 Conor, 00:00:41:09 - 00:00:42:07 thanks for joining us. 00:00:42:07 - 00:00:43:11 I'm so happy to be here 00:00:43:11 - 00:00:44:01 and looking 00:00:44:01 - 00:00:44:13 forward to it. 00:00:44:13 - 00:00:45:02 All right. 00:00:45:02 - 00:00:45:21 We are looking forward 00:00:45:21 - 00:00:46:13 to talking to you. 00:00:46:13 - 00:00:47:04 So first of all, 00:00:47:04 - 00:00:47:18 tell us a little bit 00:00:47:18 - 00:00:48:13 about yourself 00:00:48:13 - 00:00:49:06 and your background. 00:00:49:06 - 00:00:50:16 You've done a lot, 00:00:50:16 - 00:00:50:22 even 00:00:50:22 - 00:00:51:18 before you came to UC 00:00:51:18 - 00:00:52:13 Davis. You've done a lot. 00:00:52:13 - 00:00:53:04 So tell us a little bit 00:00:53:04 - 00:00:54:00 about that. Yeah. 00:00:54:00 - 00:00:55:07 So I'm currently 00:00:55:07 - 00:00:55:23 wrapping up 00:00:55:23 - 00:00:57:03 the fifth year of my, 00:00:57:03 - 00:00:58:20 my PhD here at Davis. 00:00:58:20 - 00:01:00:08 The last couple of months 00:01:00:08 - 00:01:01:02 of my time 00:01:01:02 - 00:01:02:09 is coming up here, 00:01:02:09 - 00:01:03:08 but I'm originally 00:01:03:08 - 00:01:04:04 from the West Coast, 00:01:04:04 - 00:01:05:14 originally from Oregon 00:01:05:14 - 00:01:06:11 as my hometown where 00:01:06:11 - 00:01:08:02 my family has a 00:01:08:02 - 00:01:10:05 small farm where we have, 00:01:10:05 - 00:01:11:11 pigs, 00:01:11:11 - 00:01:12:15 cattle, Christmas 00:01:12:15 - 00:01:14:10 trees, pumpkins, 00:01:14:12 - 00:01:15:03 all that order. 00:01:15:03 - 00:01:15:19 So a big 00:01:15:19 - 00:01:17:11 old McDonald farm, 00:01:17:11 - 00:01:18:11 and that got my interest 00:01:18:11 - 00:01:20:22 in animal science. 00:01:20:22 - 00:01:21:19 And then 00:01:21:19 - 00:01:22:18 I went to New York, 00:01:22:18 - 00:01:24:10 to Cornell for undergrad, 00:01:24:10 - 00:01:25:16 did a masters at Purdue, 00:01:25:16 - 00:01:26:05 and now 00:01:26:05 - 00:01:26:22 I've come here to UC 00:01:26:22 - 00:01:28:00 Davis. 00:01:28:00 - 00:01:28:12 There's cows 00:01:28:12 - 00:01:29:05 across the country. 00:01:29:05 - 00:01:29:19 So I've kind of seen 00:01:29:19 - 00:01:30:09 a little different 00:01:30:09 - 00:01:31:18 pockets of, 00:01:31:18 - 00:01:33:10 cows throughout my work. 00:01:33:10 - 00:01:34:06 My mom was a dairy 00:01:34:06 - 00:01:35:13 princess growing up, 00:01:35:13 - 00:01:36:15 but we had no, 00:01:36:15 - 00:01:37:12 no experience 00:01:37:12 - 00:01:38:10 or affiliation 00:01:38:10 - 00:01:39:11 with dairy cattle myself 00:01:39:11 - 00:01:39:22 because the cows 00:01:39:22 - 00:01:40:12 were sold off 00:01:40:12 - 00:01:42:07 before I was born. 00:01:42:07 - 00:01:43:05 But it came 00:01:43:05 - 00:01:43:21 on back to me, 00:01:43:21 - 00:01:44:08 and I've since 00:01:44:08 - 00:01:45:01 been involved 00:01:45:01 - 00:01:45:22 ever since here 00:01:45:22 - 00:01:46:08 with different 00:01:46:08 - 00:01:47:11 research projects 00:01:47:11 - 00:01:49:03 across different places 00:01:49:03 - 00:01:49:16 of the country. 00:01:49:16 - 00:01:50:19 And I knew all along 00:01:50:19 - 00:01:51:10 that I had an interest 00:01:51:10 - 00:01:51:21 in coming back 00:01:51:21 - 00:01:52:17 to the West Coast. 00:01:52:17 - 00:01:54:08 I had an interest in, 00:01:54:08 - 00:01:54:16 looking 00:01:54:16 - 00:01:55:02 at the 00:01:55:02 - 00:01:55:20 environmental 00:01:55:20 - 00:01:56:13 opportunities 00:01:56:13 - 00:01:58:02 in animal agriculture. 00:01:58:02 - 00:01:58:15 And UC Davis 00:01:58:15 - 00:01:59:09 was really the place 00:01:59:09 - 00:02:00:07 for that to be 00:02:00:07 - 00:02:01:04 and for me to come to. 00:02:01:04 - 00:02:02:10 So, 00:02:02:12 - 00:02:03:14 this lab and this 00:02:03:14 - 00:02:04:08 opportunity here 00:02:04:08 - 00:02:05:02 with Dr. Mitloehner 00:02:05:02 - 00:02:05:14 really checked 00:02:05:14 - 00:02:06:09 all those boxes 00:02:06:09 - 00:02:08:01 and then led into me 00:02:08:01 - 00:02:08:21 coming here to 00:02:08:21 - 00:02:10:07 to Davis five years ago. 00:02:10:07 - 00:02:11:02 Where were I 00:02:11:02 - 00:02:11:08 I know 00:02:11:08 - 00:02:11:20 I'm in 00:02:11:20 - 00:02:12:15 the final stages 00:02:12:15 - 00:02:13:19 right now, so why 00:02:13:19 - 00:02:14:10 why dairy cows 00:02:14:10 - 00:02:15:06 and why sustainability? 00:02:15:06 - 00:02:15:18 Why was that 00:02:15:18 - 00:02:16:12 interesting to you? 00:02:16:12 - 00:02:17:04 Why did you know 00:02:17:04 - 00:02:18:09 you wanted to do that? 00:02:18:09 - 00:02:18:17 Yeah. 00:02:18:17 - 00:02:20:21 So I think there's 00:02:20:21 - 00:02:21:09 I mean, it's 00:02:21:09 - 00:02:22:05 one of the hottest topics 00:02:22:05 - 00:02:24:19 for sure right now. 00:02:24:19 - 00:02:25:06 You know, 00:02:25:06 - 00:02:26:01 I had a lot of 00:02:26:01 - 00:02:26:22 opportunities with pigs, 00:02:26:22 - 00:02:27:05 and that's 00:02:27:05 - 00:02:27:23 actually my first 00:02:27:23 - 00:02:30:10 entryway to, 00:02:30:10 - 00:02:31:09 to livestock. 00:02:31:09 - 00:02:32:05 But then when I 00:02:32:05 - 00:02:33:12 went to undergrad, 00:02:33:12 - 00:02:34:19 the only opportunity 00:02:34:19 - 00:02:35:05 to get involved 00:02:35:05 - 00:02:35:13 in production 00:02:35:13 - 00:02:36:19 agriculture was 00:02:36:19 - 00:02:38:05 dairy cattle. 00:02:38:05 - 00:02:38:15 Because that's 00:02:38:15 - 00:02:40:22 what Cornell offered. 00:02:40:22 - 00:02:42:02 And, you know, at 00:02:42:02 - 00:02:42:10 first 00:02:42:10 - 00:02:43:12 I started learning more. 00:02:43:12 - 00:02:43:21 So I gained 00:02:43:21 - 00:02:44:12 a liking to it. 00:02:44:12 - 00:02:45:13 And then really 00:02:45:13 - 00:02:46:20 seeing opportunities 00:02:46:20 - 00:02:47:20 are open to you 00:02:47:20 - 00:02:48:13 through what 00:02:48:13 - 00:02:49:12 I had in undergrad, 00:02:49:12 - 00:02:50:04 from research, 00:02:50:04 - 00:02:51:18 from teaching, from, 00:02:51:18 - 00:02:52:21 on farm opportunities. 00:02:52:21 - 00:02:53:09 You know, 00:02:53:09 - 00:02:54:09 no dairy farm 00:02:54:09 - 00:02:55:20 is the same, you know, 00:02:55:20 - 00:02:57:04 in terms of management, 00:02:57:04 - 00:02:57:15 in terms 00:02:57:15 - 00:02:58:17 of different practices, 00:02:58:17 - 00:02:59:03 in terms 00:02:59:03 - 00:03:00:10 of what different 00:03:00:10 - 00:03:01:15 situations, 00:03:01:15 - 00:03:02:11 are spread out 00:03:02:11 - 00:03:03:20 and like the different 00:03:03:20 - 00:03:04:19 management strategies. 00:03:04:19 - 00:03:05:12 I felt like, wow, 00:03:05:12 - 00:03:06:05 this is really cool. 00:03:06:05 - 00:03:06:17 There's a lot of 00:03:06:17 - 00:03:08:14 opportunities here. 00:03:08:16 - 00:03:09:09 Plus, I 00:03