Full Quadrant Podcast

Jason Loong & Michael Carpenter

Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 14 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training.

  1. Episode 19 - NePoPo® The System Without a System

    12 FEB

    Episode 19 - NePoPo® The System Without a System

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 19 - NePoPo® - The System Without a System, Jason and Michael catch up from concluding their first NePoPo® Gold School at the end of January 2026 and discuss their reflections on a week of instruction; venture off into conversation about various dog training systems; discuss the unique state of continuing education as a dog trainer through online/remote courses as compared to in-person learning opportunities; along with the benefits that NePoPo® as a system without a system has to offer dog's with unique training requirements. Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts and Spotify! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 16 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    55 min
  2. Episode 18 - The Meaning of "No"

    26/08/2025

    Episode 18 - The Meaning of "No"

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 18 - The Meaning of "No", Jason and Michael catch up from taking a summer hiatus and discuss the good and the bad of the Dunning-Krueger effect, recent trends amid the professional dog training world, social media and its impact on being a dog trainer, and culminates with a conversation about the value of punishment in the eyes of all pet dog owners. *Bonus out-take content available at the end! Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts and Spotify! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 16 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    1hr 13min
  3. Episode 17 - Decoding NePoPo®

    31/01/2025

    Episode 17 - Decoding NePoPo®

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 17 - Decoding NePoPo®, Jason and Michael dive into the uncommon language and phrases frequently used in NePoPo® schools. Some are downright hilarious, while others leave you confused and scratching your head. Intermixed with the back stories behind many of these terms and sayings, Jason and Michael entertain a fun and insightful conversation that will leave you with more clarity as you navigate the system in your own training! More important than understanding the context of terms is knowing the context of application in training and how it will benefit the dog in front of you. Tune in to hear more about what NePoPo® is really about, and why it matters to approach training with an eye for specific dog needs as well as the correct knowledge of how to train based off of the dog's needs and not a cookie-cutter approach. Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 14 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    58 min
  4. Episode 16 - From Start to Finish - The Learning Pyramids of NePoPo®

    18/12/2024

    Episode 16 - From Start to Finish - The Learning Pyramids of NePoPo®

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 16 - From Start to Finish - the Learning Pyramids of NePoPo®, Jason and Michael dive into the nuances of the training progression framework used in NePoPo®. Spoiler alert: this episode may be difficult to follow if this is your first encounter with the theory of NePoPo® which is taught in Silver School. So bear with us as we carefully and thoroughly attempt to provide clear definitions and commentary about the process of training a dog from start to finish within this system. In order to assist first-time students of the theory behind the 3 Learning Pyramids of NePoPo®, please reference the following terms and their associated definitions: - "PoPo" Learning Pyramid: Also referred to as Positive Reinforcement Learning Pyramid. This framework of training uses only positive experiences for the dog such as positive reinforcement training (R+), Purely Positive training, and the addition of good things in the eyes of the dog to reinforce behavior. - "NePo": Also referred to as Negative Reinforcement Learning Pyramid. This method utilizes varying levels of noticeable pressure introduced in the beginning of training ("Ne", or negative, nagging feelings) to the dog that when removed, are perceived as a positive event ("Po")...ultimately creating the term "NePo" as used in NePoPo® theory. - "NePoPo": The hybrid combination of the prior to methods of training, but done in a specific order of operation. "NePo" = Negative Reinforcement followed by "Po" = Positive Reinforcement in "NePoPo" Additionally, please note that each Learning Pyramid is split into 3 horizontal levels describing progression and specific milestones to observe and work towards with each dog. (IE imagine something similar to the food pyramid diagram, but with only 3 levels). The first, or lowest level, of each Learning Pyramid is the "Learning Phase" (otherwise referred to by Michael Carpenter, as Level 1). The second, or middle level, of each Learning Pyramid is the "Intermittent Phase" (aka Level 2). And the third, or highest level, of each Learning Pyramid is referred to as "Stimulus Control" (aka Level 3). Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 14 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    1hr 19min
  5. Episode 15 - Ingredients of Ignition

    25/11/2024

    Episode 15 - Ingredients of Ignition

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 15 - Ingredients of Ignition, Jason and Michael explore the source of what makes a dog trainable....Ignition. There are a lot of references to Ignition throughout various dog training circles, but they essentially all pay respect to the definition as explained here. If you have attended NePoPo® schools or seminars, this is a topic that is mentioned but deserves lots of attention; hence the reason we chose it for our conversation during this episode! Tune in to learn what the Ignition is, how to identify it in dogs, and what to do with it. Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 14 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    50 min
  6. Episode 13 - Unique E Collar Applications

    10/09/2024

    Episode 13 - Unique E Collar Applications

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In "Episode 13 - Unique E Collar Applications", Jason and Michael address a variety of ways to "condition" the dog to the e collar, otherwise defined as other ways to introduce your dog to understanding e collar pressure. For many owners/handlers, they only understand one way to introduce the e collar, and sometimes may not fully understand the correct way to introduce it as well. But whether you're a seasoned trainer and utilize the e collar frequently, or not, there are several insights into the introduction of this valuable tool available in this episode! Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 12 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    1hr 16min
  7. Episode 14 - The "Mother Language"

    28/08/2024

    Episode 14 - The "Mother Language"

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In Episode 14 - The "Mother Language", Jason and Michael dive into the concept behind early stage learning in dog training and the impact that foundation has on future behavior, trainability, and the way the dog experiences its life. If you have attended NePoPo® schools or seminars, this is a topic that is mentioned but deserves lots of attention; hence the reason we chose it for our conversation during this episode! Tune in to learn what the "mother language" is, how to identify it in dogs, and the pros and cons to certain mother languages in dog training! Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 12 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    50 min
  8. Episode 12 - NePoPo® For Success in Training, Business, & Life!

    15/08/2024

    Episode 12 - NePoPo® For Success in Training, Business, & Life!

    Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! In "Episode 12 - NePoPo® For Success in Training, Business, & Life" Jason and Michael tackle a wide range of subjects beginning with the value of breed characteristics and intrinsic drives unique to various breeds of dogs and how proper alignment with a breed and training goals enhances outcomes drastically. The conversation then turns to the current state of service dogs, the demand for training service dogs, and more. The discussion turns to other relevant subjects such as intelligence in dogs and the best ways to foster improved cognitive ability in a dog. And to round out this entertaining conversation, Jason and Michael discuss the business aspect of the dog industry and how to find the right clients for you! Listen through to the very end and maybe discover a BONUS track discussion on the taboo of stress in dogs! Please note, all Full Quadrant Podcast episodes are now available for streaming via YouTube and Apple Podcasts! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 12 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training. Subscribe, like, share, comment and follow to stay caught up on all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training! Let us know what topics you'd like to hear more about in future episodes in the comments below! _________________________________________ Jason's website: www.canine-by-design.com Michael's website: www.level3canine.com Instagram: Jason's IG: @canine.by.design Michael's IG: @level3canine Full Quadrant IG: @full_quadrant Full Quadrant Podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/full.quadrant.podcast _________________________________________ NePoPo® is a registered trademark of Michael and Bart Bellon and is used with their permission.

    1hr 6min

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Welcome to the Full Quadrant podcast where we discuss all things related to NePoPo® and modern dog training. Your topic hosts, Jason Loong and Michael Carpenter, sit down to examine a variety of training methods, theory, and all things related to dog betterment through the lens of the Full Quadrant! Jason and Michael are NePoPo® Gold Multiplicators. They own separate dog training businesses in Utah and Nevada, compete in protection dog sports with their personal dogs, and boast a combined experience of over 14 years practicing in the NePoPo® system yielding unique insights into questions about how to accurately interpret all aspects of modern dog training.

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