Intrinsically Ordered

Cade Bradley
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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

  1. 5 hr ago

    Why Online Catholics Are Fighting About Pre-Marital Kissing: Online Extremism and Toxic Saint Quotes

    In this episode, Colin, Kevin NonTradiCath, and I react to Christian Wagner and Noah/Jesus and Whatnots' argument that kissing before marriage is sinful and compare it with the historical sources he cites. Along the way, we explore the writings of St. Alphonsus Liguori, medieval and early modern Catholic sexual ethics, Christopher West, Theology of the Body, and whether Catholics can really claim that the Church has always taught one consistent moral framework. We also discuss how debates like this reveal a deeper issue: if Catholics still have to decide which saints, theologians, and authorities to follow, is Catholicism really as different from Protestantism as many apologists claim? 00:00 Podcast Intro and Chaos 00:59 Meet Kevin and the Premise 01:53 Can You Kiss Your Girlfriend 04:14 Why This Debate Matters 06:34 Who Is Christian Wagner 11:36 Watching the No Kissing Video 12:28 Laxity and Catholic Authority 16:14 Near Occasion of Sin Stories 20:57 Alphonsus Quotes and Sex Panic 23:53 Skipping Ahead to the Argument 26:20 Repression and Catholic Guilt 28:33 Kevin Pulls the Alphonsus Book 31:00 Who Was Alphonsus Liguori 32:13 Liguori Moral Doctor 34:03 Doctors You Cant Disagree 36:37 Modesty Of The Eyes 37:49 Dont Look At Women 47:54 Mortal Sin By Looking at Kids 50:03 Repression And Obsession 52:42 Modesty In Speech 55:16 Laughter Under Scrutiny 01:01:44 Fasting And Health Claims 01:04:35 Holy Lettuce Possession 01:06:59 Liguori And Extremes 01:07:57 Rules Over Harm 01:08:41 Drowning Rescue Caveats 01:11:37 Magisterial Minimalism 01:14:02 Three Tier Authority Critique 01:19:58 Fallible Framework Problem 01:20:27 No Infallible List 01:25:19 Back To Kissing Debate 01:26:53 Jimmy Akin Weigh Teachings 01:30:46 Protestantism With Extra Steps 01:34:04 Real World Harm 01:39:53 Final Takeaways And Goodbye To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  2. 6 days ago

    Ex-Pastor Reacts to Famous Christian Pastor's Toxic Relationship Advice w/ Brian Recker

    Christian marriage advice often sounds inspiring, but what happens when it encourages people to ignore compatibility, personal calling, financial realities, or even their own well-being? In this episode, I sit down with former evangelical pastor  ⁨@BrianRecker⁩   to examine one of the biggest Christian relationship influencers online and unpack the messages behind his viral marriage advice. We talk about purity culture, patriarchy, complementarianism, having large families, fear-based theology, and how these ideas shape dating, marriage, and parenting in both evangelical and conservative Catholic circles. We also discuss why so much Christian relationship advice focuses on roles instead of people, how hell and religious fear influence life decisions, and what healthier, more equal relationships can look like after deconstruction. Read Brian's new book 'Hell Bent' - https://a.co/d/0ad4Sd2D Brian's substack: https://brianrecker.substack.com 00:00 Brian’s Evangelical Background 02:51 Fear of Hell and Assurance 05:23 Purity Culture and Sexual Shame 07:03 Who Is Ryan Miller 09:25 Love at First Sight Claims 11:57 Wife and Mom as Calling 17:07 Parenting Overwhelm and Pressure 22:48 Spiritual Bypassing and Big Families 30:01 Have More Kids Than You Can Afford 37:07 Comments Reveal the Harm 43:42 Hell as a Control Mechanism 47:05 A Healthier Christian Vision 48:33 Relearning Relationships Resources 52:33 Where to Follow Brian 54:03 Final Thanks and Wrap Up To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  3. 17 Jun

    How to Find a Spiritual Home During Deconstruction with @GospelSimplicity

    For years I assumed the choice was simple: Catholicism or Protestantism. But the deeper I looked, the more I realized there is an entire world of high church Christianity that most people never hear about. In this conversation, I'm joined by Austin from  @GospelSimplicity   to explore Anglicanism, Episcopalianism, Lutheranism, Orthodoxy, liturgy, tradition, deconstruction, and what options exist for people who are reevaluating Catholicism but still want to take Christianity seriously. We discuss why young Christians are rediscovering tradition, the appeal of high church worship, the differences between Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches, and practical advice for anyone trying to find a spiritual home after deconstruction. 00:00 Austin’s Faith Journey 02:50 Why Episcopalian And Not Catholic 06:27 Discovering Protestant Breadth 10:42 Protestant Label Explained 13:46 Why Gen Z Loves Tradition 19:31 High Church Protestant Map 28:00 Are Teachings Simpler 31:21 Anglican Openness to Doctrine 32:24 Brittle Faith and Flexibility 33:39 Episcopal vs Anglican Explained 35:53 Anglican Labels in America 38:40 Why People Convert to Orthodoxy 41:55 Orthodox Diversity and Trends 44:04 Advice for Deconstructing Catholics 49:20 Finding a Church Without Paralysis 54:03 Praying While Spiritually Homeless To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  4. 1 Jun

    Why I No Longer Call Myself An Atheist

    When I was a traditional Catholic, I was taught exactly what atheism was supposed to be: lonely, meaningless, directionless, and ultimately incapable of providing a fulfilling life. Then I became an atheist myself. In this episode, I reflect on my journey from devout Catholicism to atheism and explain why I don't actually think atheism is a worldview at all. I talk about losing my faith, losing my community, searching for meaning, running ultramarathons, and eventually discovering that atheism wasn't a replacement for religion. 00:00 - Backstory 01:16 - What Catholicism Taught Me About Atheism 03:00 - I Never Wanted to Experience Atheism 05:33 - Atheism Was As Bad as I Was Told 07:03 - What An Alcoholic Ultramarathoner Taught Me 09:42 - Atheism is Nothing, Because It's Everything 11:26 - Atheism is Options - Not a Plan 12:46 - Atheism Gave Me Everything I Love 15:37 - The Irony of Ultramarathon Finish Lines To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  5. 19 May

    Why Catholicism Is Just Protestantism With Extra Steps - Atheist Imprimatur - Brian Holdsworth

    Today on the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, Colin returns for the first episode of our new reaction series: The Apostates' Imprimatur. We react to a video from  ⁨@BrianHoldsworth⁩ titled “I’m Not Smart Enough to Be Protestant” and unpack some of the biggest questions surrounding Catholicism, Protestantism, authority, heresy, and the chaos of early Christianity. As two former traditional Catholics with years inside the Latin Mass world, we break down whether Christianity actually provides a reliable path to “truth,” whether Catholic authority solves the problems it claims to solve, and why debates about doctrine have existed since the earliest days of the church. We also dive into Protestantism, Catholic converts, church history, heresy, the Trinity, the Bible, and the strange world of online Catholic apologetics. 00:00 Podcast Return and Format 01:11 Colin’s Trad Catholic Background 09:33 Reacting to Protestant Confusion 35:17 Early Christianity Chaos 36:43 Paul and Church Authority 42:05 Gospel for the Poor 56:51 Unity as Proof 01:19:04 Trad Caths vs Authority 01:20:41 Interpretation Problem Returns 01:27:42 Canon History and Church Fathers 01:53:34 Hell Threat and Harm To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  6. 4 May

    I Watched Every Video by FORMER "De-Transitioner" Neeza Powers: Right-Wing Christian Celebrity

    I spent a week researching one of the internet’s most viral and controversial gender stories - someone who detransitioned, became a Christian influencer, and then ultimately transitioned again. In this video, I break down the full timeline, the psychology behind what happened, and how online religious communities, algorithms, and high-control dynamics may have shaped this journey in ways most people are completely missing. 0:00 - Conservative Meltdown 2:23 - Neeza's First Posts 11:15 - Her First Time at Church 18:10 - Christian Hate and Gender Dysphoria 30:31 - Becoming Catholic 49:55 - "Failing" Jesus 59:19 - Toxic Christian Responses 1:12:54 - Better Christian Responses 1:18:24 - Neeza's Thoughts To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  7. 29 Apr

    I Left the Church: Talking With My Former Youth Minister about Mental Health

    Former youth minister (and current Catholic) Ashley Kiefer joins me to talk about the messy overlap of faith, OCD, and scrupulosity. We trace her journey from professional Catholic youth worker to licensed therapist, why quoting the catechism at every problem stopped working, and how therapy forced her to learn actual listening instead of spiritual “fixing.” We dig into what scrupulosity really is, how it shows up as a subtype of OCD, why sermons that end with “just trust God more” don’t work, and how online Catholic culture and “rad trad” spaces can quietly supercharge religious anxiety. Ashley shares practical steps for discerning when it’s time to see a therapist, how to find scrupulosity-literate help, and why dealing with OCD is not a betrayal of your faith. 00:00 Ashley’s Journey from Youth Ministry to Therapy 04:21 Discussing Mental Health in Youth Ministry 07:34 Transitioning to a Career in Therapy 10:40 The Role of Faith in Therapy 25:59 Scrupulosity and OCD 29:52 Addressing Misconceptions and Scrupulosity 35:45 Understanding Intrusive Thoughts 39:24 Scrupulosity in Catholicism 56:15 Seeking Help and Resources To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

  8. 26 Apr

    I'm a Gay Atheist. I went to a Christian YouTuber Conference with @heliocentric

    I got invited by  @HeliocentricOfficial to one of the biggest evangelical Christian YouTuber conferences in the country… as a gay atheist. Surrounded by Christian apologists, pastors, influencers, Mormons, Catholics, and some of the biggest names in Christian internet culture, I spent three days asking a simple question: why am I still an atheist after all of this? From debates on the Trinity to conversations about homosexuality, conversion therapy, suffering, and the strange beauty of religion itself, this was one of the most fascinating weekends I’ve had in a long time. 0:00 - Influencers^3 01:22 -  @Heliocentric 's invitation 03:26 - Day 1 04:06 - Lesson 1 08:05 - Day 1 Continues 09:44 - Lesson 2 17:26 - The Debate 18:37 - Lesson 3 23:54 - Post Debate 24:45 - Lesson 4 28:54 - Day 2's Craziness 31:02 - Lesson 5 34:17 - Bringing My Boyfriend To join our discord community for $1 or to support my work/get early access to content, check out my patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad To be a guest on the episode, visit my YT channel and send me an email.

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Exploring the intersection of queer identity and catholicism - sharing stories of those who've left, remained, and created their own journeys; providing commentary on the catholic church's harmful teachings; helping those who've been hurt.

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  • Creator
    Cade Bradley
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    72
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Cade Hanson Media LLC
  • Show Website
    Intrinsically Ordered

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