Inclusion and Disability Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad

Aaron DeVries

Welcome to The Inclusive Dad Podcast, where we explore all things inclusion and make it practical!! Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron Devries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad

  1. 193 - Breaking the School-to-Prison Pipeline Through Inclusion with Alessia Perretti

    1 DAY AGO

    193 - Breaking the School-to-Prison Pipeline Through Inclusion with Alessia Perretti

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Alessia Perretti, a system change youth advocate working at the intersection of disability and juvenile justice. Alessia shares powerful insights on how overlooked disabilities contribute to the school-to-prison pipeline and why inclusion must consider intersecting identities. She discusses gaps in reentry systems, the importance of collaboration across sectors, and the need to challenge “us vs. them” thinking. Through real-world experience, Alessia highlights how kindness, communication, and understanding behavior as communication can transform systems and lives, especially for youth navigating trauma, disability, and reintegration into society. Key Takeaways: Intersection Matters – Inclusion must consider overlapping identities like disability, race, and incarceration. Hidden Disabilities – Many youth go undiagnosed, leading to mislabeling as defiant rather than supported. System Gaps – Lack of communication between systems causes people to fall through the cracks. Behavior Signals – Challenging behavior is often a form of communication, not defiance. Kindness First – Compassion and understanding are foundational to true inclusion. Alessia Perretti’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is a space that not only recognizes disability, but also recognizes all the variables that intersect with it and all the identities that intersect with it. Alessia Perretti’s Bio: Alessia Perretti is a Systems Change Youth Advocate empowering youth with disabilities, especially those impacted by the justice system. She works to break down barriers and create equitable opportunities, blending research, policy, and advocacy to ensure every young person has the support they need to thrive. Connect with Alessia Perretti: Website: https://www.alessiaperretti.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessiaperretti/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aperretti_/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 85 No - 106 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    35 min
  2. 192 - Where Inclusion Meets the Justice of Jesus with Fr. Joash Thomas

    4 DAYS AGO

    192 - Where Inclusion Meets the Justice of Jesus with Fr. Joash Thomas

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Fr. Joash Thomas to explore a deeper, justice-centered understanding of inclusion rooted in the life and teachings of Jesus. Together, they unpack how empire-shaped Christianity has distorted the gospel, replacing unity with division and exclusion. Fr. Joash challenges listeners to rethink inclusion by learning from marginalized voices and embracing a faith that unites to heal rather than divide to conquer. This powerful conversation also dives into loving your enemies, confronting bias, and reimagining a more compassionate and connected world through everyday actions and authentic relationships. Key Takeaways: Redefining Inclusion – True inclusion starts by asking excluded people what they actually need, not assuming it for them. Empire vs. Jesus – Systems of power divide to control, but the way of Jesus brings people together to heal. Love Your Enemy – Loving enemies begins with seeing them as human and worthy of compassion, even when it’s difficult. Theology Matters – What we believe about God shapes how we treat people, especially those on the margins. Learn First – Inclusion grows when we listen, learn, and honor the agency of those often overlooked. Fr. Joash Thomas’ definition of inclusion: Inclusion is when the Spirit of God breaks down the man-made walls that we put to keep people out from experiencing the grace of God. Fr. Joash Thomas’ Bio: Father Joash is a Priest, Public Theologian & Bestselling Author Drawing from his St. Thomas Christian roots and a Jesus-centered & Empire-informed understanding of Scripture, Fr. Joash helps audiences reimagine a faith that unites rather than divides—and that stands firmly with neighbors on the margins. Through speaking engagements, teaching, and advocacy, he calls Christians to a more contemplative yet courageous activism, motivated by the grace-filled, non-violent way of Jesus. Born and raised in India, Fr. Joash served as a U.S. political consultant and lobbyist before pivoting to global human rights advocacy. Now based in the Toronto area, he holds a master’s degree in Political Management from The George Washington University and two master’s degrees from Dallas Theological Seminary in Christian Leadership and Theology. An ordained Priest in the Diocese of St. Anthony, he is the author of the #1 Amazon Canada Bestseller in Liberation Theology, The Justice of Jesus (published by Brazos Press / Baker Publishing).  Fr. Joash serves on the leadership team at St. Stephen’s University as Director of Fundraising & Advancement and Instructor in Public Theology, Peace & Justice. You can keep up with Fr. Joash's writing on his Substack, Masala Chai Theology. Connect with Fr. Joash Thomas: Website: https://www.joashpthomas.com/ Substack: https://joashpthomas.substack.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joashpthomas/ Amazon: https://a.co/d/05hbu1ca SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 84 No - 106 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    40 min
  3. 191 - Deaf Culture & Real-World Inclusion: What You’re Missing with Maria Gallucci

    10 APR

    191 - Deaf Culture & Real-World Inclusion: What You’re Missing with Maria Gallucci

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Maria Gallucci, a child of deaf adults (CODA), author, and real estate agent, to share her powerful story of growing up between two worlds. Maria opens up about learning empathy, advocacy, and communication from an early age while navigating a world that often misunderstood her family. She discusses inclusion as creating space for authenticity, the importance of accessibility in everyday environments, and how small acts of kindness can change lives. This conversation highlights the unseen barriers many face and challenges listeners to think differently about connection, compassion, and what true inclusion really looks like. Key Takeaways: Empathy Early – Growing up in a deaf household builds deep empathy, advocacy, and emotional intelligence from a young age. Inclusion Defined – Inclusion means creating spaces where people feel safe to be their authentic selves. Hidden Barriers – Many accessibility challenges go unnoticed until you experience them firsthand. Small Efforts Matter – Simple actions like learning basic signs or showing effort can reduce isolation. Representation Counts – Feeling seen and understood can profoundly impact someone’s sense of belonging. Maria Gallucci’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is having compassion and empathy and seeing people for who they are and letting them be their authentic self. Maria Gallucci’s Bio: Maria Gallucci is a multi-award-winning real estate agent and proud CODA (Child of Deaf Adults). Growing up as one of six hearing children raised by Deaf parents, she learned ASL before English and helped her parents buy a home at just 12 years old. This experience shaped her passion for inclusive communication and helping those who are often overlooked. For over 30 years, Maria has supported homebuyers from all walks of life, with special focus on the Deaf, Hard of Hearing, and LGBTQ+ communities. She's the founder of Uptown Realty Group, Gallucci Homes, ASL @ Compass Affinity Group, and ASL Realty- a national platform connecting Deaf & Hard of Hearing clients with signing agents - and ranks in the top 1% of agents in Colorado and top 1.5% nationwide. Maria serves on boards for Rocky Mountain Deaf School, DOVE, and Colorado Association of the Deaf. Her motto "just try" reflects her belief that meaningful connection starts with one small step. Her debut book Raised in Silence is both a love letter to the Deaf & Hard of Hearing community and a guide for bridging communication gaps. Connect with Maria Gallucci: Website: https://galluccihomes.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-gallucci-18725b9/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TopASLRealtor?mibextid=LQQJ4d Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/galluccihomes Amazon: https://a.co/d/03dVOwy0 SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 84 No - 105 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    28 min
  4. 190 - From Awareness to Action in Disability Inclusion with Bill Volkmann

    7 APR

    190 - From Awareness to Action in Disability Inclusion with Bill Volkmann

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Bill Volkmann to explore what true inclusion looks like through lived experience. Bill shares his journey from being one of the first students with a developmental disability integrated into public school to launching a for-profit company focused on inclusion through media and advocacy. Together, they discuss breaking down stigma, the power of education, and why simple human connection matters most. Bill offers practical insights on overcoming adversity, staying positive, and building comfort through conversation—reminding us that inclusion starts with understanding, openness, and the willingness to treat everyone as equals. Key Takeaways: Power of Exposure – When people interact with disabilities regularly, fear and discomfort begin to fade. Education Matters – Teaching disability awareness early can create a more inclusive and accepting society. Start Conversations – Inclusion begins with simple, genuine interactions and shared interests. Flexible Thinking – Adapting your approach in challenging situations can lead to better outcomes. Normalize Inclusion – People with disabilities want the same opportunities to contribute, connect, and belong. Bill Volkmann’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is being able to do what you want to do with no barriers in place to discourage you from making it harder to do something. Bill Volkmann’s Bio: Bill Volkmann is the founder of Empower Your Courage. It is a social media and technology company aiming to achieve full inclusion for people with disabilities and also bridging the gap between technology companies and the disability community. Bill was the first student with an intellectual or developmental disability to attend New Jersey public schools after the ADA was law. Bill has cerebral palsy; his parents instilled in him that even though he has a disability, he was no different from anybody else. Growing up, Bill played and watched baseball. It gave him a connection to his classmates who didn't have a disability. It was a way they could see who he truly was. Bill is publishing a book in the upcoming year about his incredible life story. Connect with Bill Volkmann: Website: https://www.empoweryourcourage.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/william_volkmann/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 83 No - 105 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    31 min
  5. 189 - Inclusion in Action: How Community Changes Lives with Rosemary & Patricia

    31 MAR

    189 - Inclusion in Action: How Community Changes Lives with Rosemary & Patricia

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Rosemary and Patricia, co-founders of the Highland Friendship Club, to share how a simple need turned into a life-changing community. What began as a small walking group grew into a thriving organization that provides meaningful social opportunities for individuals with developmental disabilities. They discuss the power of connection, the importance of belonging, and how inclusion goes beyond programs—it’s about relationships and community presence. This conversation highlights what’s possible when people stop waiting for systems to change and instead take action to create spaces where everyone is valued. Key Takeaways: Belonging Matters - Inclusion is about feeling safe, wanted, and truly part of something, not just being present. Take Action - Real change often starts when people stop waiting and choose to create solutions themselves. Community Power - Strong relationships and local connections can turn small ideas into lasting impact. Inclusion Beyond Programs - True inclusion happens in everyday community spaces, not just designated environments. Ask and Engage - Sometimes inclusion starts with simply asking how someone can be included and taking that first step. Rosemary’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is being able to be part of the whole fabric of our community. Patricia’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is feeling safe, wanted and belonging to something. Rosemary’s Bio: Rosemary Fagrelius is a devoted mother of three grown sons, a proud grandmother of three, and wife to Stuart Fagrelius. Her journey as an advocate began when her oldest son, John, survived an extreme case of spinal meningitis at just 13 months old, leaving him with significant cognitive and physical disabilities. Since that time, Rosemary has been deeply committed to ensuring inclusion for John in every aspect of life in St. Paul. Alongside her close friend Pat Leseman—also a mother of a son with disabilities—she co-founded the Highland Friendship Club over 23 years ago. Today, the Highland Friendship Club provides teens and adults with disabilities a welcoming place to build friendships, develop new skills, and stay actively connected to their community. The organization offers a wide range of programs, including fitness, art, music, walking clubs, and numerous weekly activities designed to enrich lives and foster belonging. Patricia’s Bio: Co-Founder of Highland Friendship Club - celebrating our 24th anniversary! My husband, Don, and I have 4 beautiful children ranging in ages 36 to 43!  Our seconded oldest Michael has Fragile X.  In 2002, loaded with determination, desperation and fire in our bellies, my good friend and fellow co-founder launched HFC.  On the flip side of life I was as a Contracting Officer for the US Department of Housing and Urban Development from 1980 to 2012! Connect with Rosemary & Patricia: Website: https://www.highlandfriendshipclub.org/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 83 No - 104 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    37 min
  6. 188 - Dating Safely with Disabilities: Why Support Matters with Katherine Gyolai

    24 MAR

    188 - Dating Safely with Disabilities: Why Support Matters with Katherine Gyolai

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Katherine Gyolai, founder of Find Love Safely, to explore the often-overlooked topic of dating and relationships for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Katherine shares her deeply personal journey that led to creating a safer, more supportive matchmaking service after her own family experienced online harm. Together, they discuss the importance of balancing independence with protection, redefining inclusion as access with support, and why conversations around relationships, consent, and connection are critical. This episode challenges assumptions and offers practical ways to create safer, more inclusive opportunities for meaningful human connection. Key Takeaways: Access with support – Inclusion isn’t just access; it requires safeguards that protect while honoring autonomy. Dating risks real – People with disabilities are especially vulnerable to online scams and exploitation. Conversations matter – Avoiding discussions about relationships creates dangerous gaps in understanding. Redefining success – Success can be growth in confidence, not just long-term relationships. Ask and believe – True inclusion starts by asking what support someone wants and honoring it. Katherine Gyolai’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion means honoring autonomy while also providing structure, guidance and protection. Katherine Gyolai’s Bio: Katherine is a mom and stepmom to 8 wonderful adult children — 4 of whom have intellectual and/or developmental disabilities. Her children, just like you, want to find a special someone to share their lives with. But as their parent and guardian, Katherine knows that online dating and apps are not a safe choice for them. Inspired by Netflix's Love on the Spectrum and Down for Love, Katherine founded this matchmaking service because she believes the best way to meet someone special is to be matched by a real human who cares deeply about people just like you. In her spare time, Katherine is an ICF-certified individual and team coach, and a marketing consultant. She is also on a mission to make the system work better for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Connect with Katherine Gyolai: Website: https://www.findlovesafely.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FindLoveSafely LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/find-love-safely/posts/?feedView=all Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/findlovesafely Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/findlovesafely/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 83 No - 103 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    37 min
  7. 187 - Inclusion Starts Within: Self-Love, Healing, and Responsibility with Jason Lyle

    17 MAR

    187 - Inclusion Starts Within: Self-Love, Healing, and Responsibility with Jason Lyle

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron talks with Jason Lyle, founder of The Sacred Grit and Adventures in Recovery, about healing, self-awareness, and what true inclusion really means. Jason shares his journey from pastor to recovery advocate after battling addiction, depression, and suicidal thoughts. Through practices like breathwork, cold immersion, meditation, and nervous system regulation, he now helps men reconnect with themselves and take responsibility for their inner lives. Together, AAron and Jason explore how self-love fuels compassion for others, why many men struggle with emotional health, and how simple daily practices can create powerful personal and relational transformation. Key Takeaways: Self-Love First - True inclusion starts by learning to love and care for yourself so you have something healthy to give others. Nervous System Tools - Practices like cold plunges, breathwork, and meditation help regulate the nervous system and build emotional resilience. Challenge Old Beliefs - Many harmful behaviors stem from internalized beliefs about shame, worth, and identity. Responsibility Mindset - Real change begins when individuals take responsibility for their decisions and inner life. Brotherhood Matters - Community and shared experiences help men process struggles and grow together. Jason Lyle’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is more of an awakening than it is a realization or a shift of perspective. Inclusion is something that's already here. Jason Lyle’s Bio: Today’s guest is Jason Lyle—former pastor, recovery mentor, and host of The Sacred Grit Podcast. Jason helps men regain emotional control and rebuild faith and discipline using practical nervous system tools grounded in real-world recovery. Connect with Jason Lyle: The Sacred Grit Website: https://thesacredgrit.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSacredGrit Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hoHjAWRKbNLbrwCykjqDF?si=fe4d86ee2689432a Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576917194889 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesacredgrit/ Adventures in Recovery Website: https://www.recoveryadventures.org/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 83 No - 102 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    42 min
  8. 186 - Disability in Focus: Changing How We See Inclusion Through Photography with Scott Gutentag

    13 MAR

    186 - Disability in Focus: Changing How We See Inclusion Through Photography with Scott Gutentag

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron DeVries sits down with licensed educational psychologist and photographer Scott Gutentag to explore the intersection of storytelling, disability, and inclusion. Scott shares how he combined his background in psychology with his lifelong passion for photography to highlight the humanity and individuality of people with disabilities. The conversation dives into how photography can slow us down, help us notice what often goes unseen, and tell powerful stories that challenge assumptions. Scott also discusses his award-winning documentary Disability in Focus, the impact of inclusive representation, and practical ways anyone can increase accessibility and awareness in their communities today. Key Takeaways: Inclusion Through Access - Inclusion means creating accessibility so everyone has equal opportunity to participate, not giving special treatment. Power of Storytelling - Photography can reveal the humanity, strengths, and stories of people with disabilities that often go unseen. Observation Matters - Slowing down and paying attention—whether in nature or in people—helps us better understand the world around us. Representation Counts - Seeing respectful and authentic images of people with disabilities helps families feel recognized and valued. Awareness Leads Change - Simply noticing barriers in everyday spaces can lead to advocacy and improvements that make communities more inclusive. Scott Gutentag’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is ensuring everyone, regardless of their differences, has equal access and opportunity to participate in their environment. Scott Gutentag’s Bio: Scott is a photographer and licensed educational psychologist telling the stories of individuals with disabilities through the power of photography.  Connect with Scott Gutentag: Website: https://www.scottgutentag.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-gutentag-b237a1166/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/scott.gutentag/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottgutentag SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 83 No - 101 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    31 min

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Welcome to The Inclusive Dad Podcast, where we explore all things inclusion and make it practical!! Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron Devries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad