Zubeida Jaffer and Sisonke Msimang in Conversation

In the fifth and final episode of this season of The Empty Chair, PEN SA board member Sisonke Msimang interviews celebrated author and journalist Zubeida Jaffer. Zubeida talks about her books, writing in difficult and joyous circumstances, her certainty during the struggle against apartheid as well as her hopes for future generations. In this episode we stand in solidarity with Dr Stella Nyanzi, a medical anthropologist, feminist, poet and human rights activist.