Exit Paradox

Anastasia Koroleva
Exit Paradox

I'm Anastasia Koroleva, a 4x exited founder exploring life after selling a business with some of the most remarkable post-exit entrepreneurs in the world. Together, we rediscover purpose, redefine success, and build fulfilling lives and families. My mission? To inspire exited founders to wield their unique blend of experience, time, wealth, and community power for a profound global impact. Having survived a 9-digit exit, I dedicated a decade to researching the deepest challenges faced by entrepreneurs after a business sale. This podcast is the platform to share my and other exited founders' hard-earned wisdom with the world. To join our community, please subscribe and share your thoughts. I’d love to hear from you 🙏.

  1. Kass and Michael Lazerow. $800M Exit: “Shoveling Shit” in Business and Marriage

    3 MAR

    Kass and Michael Lazerow. $800M Exit: “Shoveling Shit” in Business and Marriage

    VCs notoriously avoid investing in married couples, fearing that personal conflicts could sink the business. Yet, the Lazerows defied that norm—building not just one, but two successful companies together, culminating in an $800M exit. They didn’t just make it work; they mastered it—and then wrote a book about it. Today, we’ll dive deep into what exactly they did to make it work—and what they wish they hadn’t. TIME STAMPS: 00:00:01 - Introduction 00:00:14 - Learning from Failure vs. Success 00:00:27 - Building a Business as a Married Couple 00:01:08 - First Meeting and Early Impressions 00:02:30 - Life After an Exit 00:03:08 - Golf.com: The First Big Exit 00:06:58 - The Struggles of Entrepreneurship 00:09:14 - The Emotional Toll of Entrepreneurship 00:10:35 - Taking a Break After an Exit 00:11:14 - Was Their First Exit Life-Changing? 00:12:54 - Why Start Another Business? 00:14:31 - Entrepreneurship with Three Kids 00:16:47 - Why Entrepreneurs Keep Going 00:19:41 - Becoming Investors 00:23:20 - The Hardships Behind Entrepreneurship 00:28:17 - Coping with Post-Exit Stress 00:31:41 - Entrepreneurs and Mental Health 00:34:55 - Reframing Anxiety & ADHD as Superpowers 00:38:46 - The Dark Side of Entrepreneurship 00:44:01 - Work-Life Balance: Do They Have One? 00:48:01 - Michael’s Attempt at a Painting Career 00:50:12 - Filtering Opportunities 00:52:28 - Navigating Marriage After an Exit 00:55:15 - Raising Kids with Wealth 01:02:11 - Teaching Kids About Money and Responsibility 01:09:04 - The Purpose of Their Book 01:11:20 - Final Question: How Do You Want to Be Remembered? 🔗 CONNECT WITH KASS AND MIKE: 👥 Linkedin KASS - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasslazerow/ 🐦 X (Twitter) KASS - https://x.com/kasslazerow 👥 Linkedin MIKE - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazerow/ 🐦 X (Twitter) MIKE - https://x.com/lazerow 💻 Website (personal) - https://www.kassandmike.com/ I📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kassandmike/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@UCgLzz0yep6lUaE5i62zMXTw 🎥 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCgLzz0yep6lUaE5i62zMXTw 🔗 CONNECT WITH ANASTASIA: 🎥 YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/@UCaoC4W9E2Vopnkd-K3dOw7Q t 🐦 X (Twitter) - https://x.com/AnasKoroleva 📸 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/anastasiashoot 💻 Website - https://www.exitparadox.com 🗞️ Newsletter - https://www.exitparadox.com/blog 👥 Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasiakoroleva TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@anastasia.korolev7

    1h 13m
  2. Alex Macdonald. A $300M Exit is No Reason to Retire

    18 FEB

    Alex Macdonald. A $300M Exit is No Reason to Retire

    What would you do if you sold your company for 300 million dollars? Retire? Explore the world? Do all these other things you had no time to do while building a business? This is not what my friend Alex Macdonald did when he sold his company Velocity Black two years ago. In fact, Alex made it quite impossible for himself to have any kind of post-exit sabbatical. Why? Well, Alex has seen enough of his post-exit founder friends getting stuck in full-blown existential crisis after they sold their company. He didn't want that to happen to him. I think honestly, if I had had that void, it probably would have not led to a productive use of my energy. I'm actually very happy that I had something immediately to jump into. And yeah, that's led to me not having to go through that challenging period that I see a lot of my friends go through, questioning their identity and everything. In this episode, we're going to explore why he made this decision, whether two years later he still feels it was the right one, and how he applies the lessons from his first full entrepreneurial cycle to building his new business, appropriately called SQL. 🚀 00:00:00 - Introduction 💼 00:02:25 - The Story of Velocity Black 🏦 00:07:46 - Selling Velocity Black to Capital One 🔥 00:07:05 - Why Alex Started Another Business Before Selling His First One 🧠 00:10:52 - The Founder’s Existential Crisis After an Exit 👷‍♂️ 00:12:45 - The Shortage of Builders, Not Investors 💪 00:14:19 - Work-Life Balance & Health After an Exit 📊 00:16:21 - Lessons from Running a 24/7 Business ⚖️ 00:19:52 - Changing Approach to Work with Sequel 🕵️‍♂️ 00:21:19 - Different Approaches to Post-Exit Businesses 🏛️ 00:24:19 - Sequel: Building a Next-Gen Goldman Sachs 🏁 00:27:26 - Managing Motivation After Financial Success 🔑 00:31:03 - Fulfillment vs. Happiness: What Really Matters? 🩺 00:33:15 - The Biohacking & Longevity Obsession 🤝 00:35:51 - Community & Meaning in Life After an Exit 🙏 00:39:13 - The Idea of Creating a New Religion 📜 00:45:46 - The Role of Structure & Responsibility in Life. 🔓 00:54:08 - The Challenge of Freedom After an Exit 📈 00:57:46 - Angel Investing & How It Led to Sequel 🎯 01:03:42 - Helping Athletes Transition Beyond Their Careers 💰 01:07:37 - Building a Legacy vs. Just Making Money ⚠️ 01:10:52 - Avoiding Mistakes in Early-Stage Investing 📢 01:15:30 - The Power of Influence in Investing 🚀 01:20:05 - Sequel’s Future Plans & Scaling the Model 🏆 01:25:00 - What Drives Long-Term Success? 🛑 01:30:10 - Final Thoughts & Advice for Founders

    1h 35m

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I'm Anastasia Koroleva, a 4x exited founder exploring life after selling a business with some of the most remarkable post-exit entrepreneurs in the world. Together, we rediscover purpose, redefine success, and build fulfilling lives and families. My mission? To inspire exited founders to wield their unique blend of experience, time, wealth, and community power for a profound global impact. Having survived a 9-digit exit, I dedicated a decade to researching the deepest challenges faced by entrepreneurs after a business sale. This podcast is the platform to share my and other exited founders' hard-earned wisdom with the world. To join our community, please subscribe and share your thoughts. I’d love to hear from you 🙏.

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