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This is @Hairdustry our weekly “Your Day Off” Podcast. We are hairstylist that bring you the success stories of the Hair Industry! Look for new Episodes with killer hair peeps every week on your day off! instagram.com/hairdustry Become a supporter of this podcast: https://anchor.fm/hairdustry/support

  1. 3 HRS AGO

    Depot North America Is Here... and It's Not What You Expect W/ Dayna Gamba & Tyler Kelbert

    Tyler Kelbert and Dayna Gamba: Depot North America and What a Real Brand Relationship Looks Like Some brands want your following. This one wants you. Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with barbers Tyler Kelbert and Dayna Gamba, two of the newest additions to the Depot North America team. The conversation covers what drew them to the brand, what the product has been like behind the chair, and why Depot's culture feels different from anything else in the barber space. Tyler tells the story of doing 365 consecutive days of content twice. Dayna talks about using her chair to quietly change lives. Two barbers. Two ways of showing up. Both doing it right. What Is Depot Depot is an established European men's grooming brand covering scalp health, hair, skin, body, and scent. The US launch is building deliberately. Products are organized by numbers: pre-wash in the 100s, washing in the 200s, styling in the 300s. Tyler's go-to is the 304, a strong-hold product that holds all day. Dayna's clients are already asking to cocktail products and wanting more. Distribution is still being worked out but the demand is there. The Culture Is the Product Depot does not require influencer status. No follower count minimum. They want authentic artists who are good at what they do. Corey and Geno, who spent time with the Depot and Milkshake teams in Ibiza, came away with the same read: family, not a hair brand. Tyler put it plainly... if you're a good barber and you're not a d******d, there's probably a home for you here. What Dayna Brought to the Room Tyler called out Dayna's positivity as one of his biggest takeaways. She'd flip a negative into something constructive without missing a beat. Contagious. Twenty-three years in the industry, time with Orbe and Davines, and a genuine belief that Depot fills gaps the barber space has been missing. She also runs a charity raffle out of her salon. The prize is free haircuts for a full year. Tickets run $20 to $50 and every dollar goes to a family in need. Quiet generosity. No big following required. Tyler's 365 Days of Content... Twice First run was great for his career and rough on everything else. The second time he came in with a plan, used AI for content ideas, built variety across tutorials, education, humor, and unboxings, and thought about it from the consumer side first. He also brought a carry-on full of outfit changes to the salon every day. His coworkers thought he was out of his mind. Eventually he figured out nobody's watching that closely. It was always about the content. Depot is actively building its US team. Real artists. No ego. Throw your hat in.

    48 min
  2. 4 MAY

    Nick Stenson: Cancer, Clarity, and What It Really Takes to Build a Brand

    Nick Stenson: Cancer, Clarity, and What It Really Takes to Build a Brand He left one of the most powerful jobs in the beauty industry to bet everything on himself. Then he got cancer. This is that story. Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Nick Stenson, celebrity hairdresser and founder of Nick Stenson Beauty, for a conversation that earns every minute of your time. Nick has been a creative director at Matrix, rose to Senior Vice President of Salon Services and Store Operations at Ulta Beauty, and spent seven years quietly building his own hair care line before leaving corporate life entirely. Months after walking away, he was diagnosed with Stage 3 Hodgkin Lymphoma. This episode covers all of it. Seven Years to a Bottle Nick started developing his product line before he even accepted the job at Ulta. The brand, built around a three-step philosophy covering what you do in the shower, out of the shower, and before you walk out the door, currently sits at 12 SKUs. Every product was designed to be a hero. Nick spent 19 formulations on his hairspray alone. His goal from the start was to create a brand complete enough that he'd never need another one. The line is now available in Ulta, Nordstrom, Macy's, and Amazon, with more retail partnerships coming. He put his name on the bottle because he wanted his reputation attached to everything inside it. Building a Brand in the Wild Nick breaks down what marketing a hair brand actually looks like from the inside. TikTok rewards hooks and speed. Instagram builds community and brand culture over time. Google runs differently from both. He's learned that most founders pull the plug on a marketing channel too early, before the algorithm has had enough time to respond. Six months is the minimum before you can evaluate whether a platform is working. Each retailer also operates in its own ecosystem, and breaking through to their consumer requires its own strategy layered on top of your own. The Diagnosis Nick had been in pain across his chest and back for months. Chiropractors, x-rays, adjustments three times a week, up to 20 Advil a day. He wrote it off as a workout injury. The fatigue he attributed to stress. Then a lump appeared on his collarbone and a doctor friend spotted it at a weekend trip. Four weeks later it had doubled in size. He found out through his patient chart, sitting in a car with that same friend, who started to cry. By Monday he was in a doctor's office. By Thursday he was in surgery. He had cancer in his lymph nodes around his shoulder, vocal cords, chest, armpit, and back. His doctor told him clearly: we are going to cure you. Those five words changed everything. What It Changed Nick describes going public with his diagnosis as a deliberate choice to be a safe place for people who didn't have his network, his doctors, or his support system. He spent hours in bed responding to DMs from strangers going through cancer. He calls that healing. On the other side of treatment, he is calmer, more generous when things go wrong, and quicker to celebrate his team instead of spiral. He also got clear on who belongs in his life. Some people who showed up during the hardest moments were removed not because they did anything wrong in that moment, but because their access to him had already expired. Cancer just made it easier to see. Presence, Meditation, and the Hard Conversation The episode ends somewhere unexpected. Corey opens up about experiencing suicidal ideation every day of his life until two years ago, and the realization through meditation that it was never really about wanting to die. It was about pressure. Seeing it for what it was made it stop. Nick picks up the thread and talks about learning to separate the hard moments he created in his own head from the ones that are actually real. Both men land in the same place: the world is happening for you, not against you. Doing the hard things now is the only way to earn the easy later.

    1hr 8min
  3. 27 APR

    Ted Gibson & Jason Backe- CONVERGENCE

    Ted Gibson and Jason Backe Live at ABS Chicago Some conversations remind you why you got into this industry in the first place. This is one of them. Recorded live at ABS Chicago with co-host Geno Chapman, Corey sits down with Ted Gibson and Jason Backe for an hour covering three decades of hustle, heartbreak, reinvention, and beauty from the inside out. The Roads That Led Here Neither Ted nor Jason took a straight path in. Jason was a raver kid in Minneapolis who walked into beauty school and for the first time felt seen by a teacher. Ted was a Texas athlete who walked into a salon called Zan and Friends, saw a room full of stylish people in starched Wranglers, and decided that was the life. What followed was barber school, a cross-country move seeking fame, a detour to Atlanta to answer phones while switching his license, and a room with Confederate flags on the wall. He stayed anyway. The sacrifices nobody sees are always the foundation of the success they do. What Fame Actually Costs Saying yes to Angelina Jolie's hair for Tomb Raider changed everything. Vogue. Marie Claire. A PR firm that told them to drop the name Fame and call it Ted Gibson. A Fifth Avenue salon. A DC licensing deal tied to the Real Housewives. A move to LA where they gambled everything and learned more than they earned. Three years in Palm Springs that have brought more inspiration than anywhere else they've lived. Success is not linear. It never was. The Client Relationship... and When It Ends Ted's rule: treat every client like it's the first time you've seen her. She is a different person. Jason goes deeper, describing 20 years of New York clients who didn't care what it cost, and how COVID ended it overnight. He had to create a new category... client friends. Losing them felt like grief. It changed how he understood his work entirely. Ted Gibson Beauty Wellness Science After Ted's mom was diagnosed with dementia, they dove into brain health and found lion's mane mushroom. They felt it. They kept going. A scientist in Oregon with 30 years studying fungi and algae helped them build a superfood powder: lion's mane, chaga, reishi, tremella, and blue-green algae in a coconut milk base with vanilla and coffee. Tremella is shown to be 100 times more effective than hyaluronic acid at moisture retention. Mix it into anything. A book is coming. Convergence: Beauty Wellness Science Summit May 2-3 in Palm Springs. Professionals and consumers in the same room to collaborate, not compete. Mainstage education in cut, color, and dressing. Panel discussions including Guts, Brains and Beauty and Stars, Shrooms and Psychedelics. Breakout rooms. A cocktail party. The Beauty in Motion Evening Performance headlined by Ted and his artistic team. Day two is all professional education with business coaching from Steve Gomez. Blue Zones leads a purpose workshop for the Palm Springs community. Hotel reservations at the Marriott via the link in bio. @tedgibson... @jasonbacke... @genochapman Sponsored by Serious Business. January 16-18, 2027 in New Orleans. Tickets at seriousbuisness.net

    1hr 1min
  4. 16 MAR

    Sheri Doss-Stop Assisting. Start Leading.

    Episode Title: Sheri Doss… From Redken to Costa Rica to Bumble and Bumble Hosts: Corey Gray and Katie May Guest: Sheri Doss, Education and Artistry at Bumble and Bumble Episode Summary Sheri Doss spent 30+ years at Redken before walking away to be near her mom in Costa Rica. She opened an 80-seat taco restaurant and thought she was done. Then Bumble and Bumble came calling. As of February 2025, Bumble is on Salon Centric shelves for the first time ever... and Sheri is leading the education behind it. Corey and Katie May dig into what that means for every hairstylist in America. What We Cover Why a third of hairdressers leave the industry every yearHow 50 hours of cutting curriculum isn't enough to survive behind the chairWhat Bumble's Salon Centric partnership means for suite stylists and independentsBuilding a team around mission... not contracts or post quotasThe House of Bumble New York Experience launching June 2025How to get into brand education as a working stylistAbout Sheri Doss Sheri grew up the daughter of a struggling salon owner in Southern California. She earned her manicuring license first, then her cosmetology license, built a color clientele fast, and was recruited by Redken as an artist. She spent 30+ years educating, managing teams, and helping hairdressers build sustainable careers. She now leads Education and Artistry at Bumble and Bumble. Find Bumble and Bumble Pro Instagram: @bumblepro YouTube: Bumble and Bumble Pro Searchable Terms bumble and bumble education 2025, sheri doss bumble, hair industry podcast, why hairdressers quit, how to work for a hair brand, salon centric bumble, razor cutting education, your day off podcast, hairdustry, Katie May hairdustry, Corey Gray hairdustry

    46 min
  5. 9 MAR

    Living in Peace- Ajahn Tri Dao

    Episode SummaryCorey Hairdustry is joined by co-host Katie May for a conversation with Ajahn Tri Dao, a Buddhist monk and spiritual counselor. Inspired by the Walk for Peace, they explore the shift from “world peace” as an idea to internal peace as a daily responsibility—and why that change matters in a loud, fast, overstimulated world. What You’ll Learn• Why Buddhism can be understood as both a religion (protected by law) and a philosophy/practice (tested in real life)• The Walk for Peace’s core message: inner peace creates the conditions for world peace• A clear definition of “suffering” (dukkha): the uneasiness that comes from resisting reality, clinging, and trying to control what you can’t• How coping behaviors often show up when people can’t sit with pain (and why slowing down changes everything)• Why America’s pace (work, stress, constant stimulation) fuels emotional reactivity and disconnection• The Middle Way: not grinding yourself into burnout, and not numbing yourself into stagnation• How to start building awareness without making it complicated: journal first• A practical journaling framework: track sleep, mood, triggers, and reactions to expose patterns you’ve normalized• Beginner-friendly meditation advice: start guided with music, then build toward silence and breath-focused practice• Breath techniques shared: counting breaths, noticing temperature, and training the mind to do one thing at a time• What progress looks like: it’s not “no thoughts,” it’s responding differently when life pokes you• The takeaway: “Stop. Reflect. Write. Breathe.” and finish what you started. Key Quote-Level Takeaway“Peace is free from disturbing emotions—and you can train for it.” If you want, tell me: do you want the IG caption to feel more spiritual/soft, or more hard-hitting/straight talk?

    1hr 7min
  6. 23 FEB

    Michelle Bowden- The Fashion Week Truths

    Show Notes – Season 9, Episode 2 What does it really take to work Paris Fashion Week as a behind-the-chair hairstylist? In this episode, Corey sits down with Dallas-based master colorist Michelle Bowden to unpack how one simple ask turned into a backstage pass to Paris. Michelle has spent 23 years in the same salon, building a loyal clientele and refining her craft as a specialist colorist. Fashion Week wasn’t part of some grand master plan. It came from staying curious, investing in education, and having the courage to raise her hand when opportunity showed up. Here’s what you’ll hear in this conversation: • How Michelle built a long-term career in one salon without job hopping • Why specializing (cut vs. color) helped her master her craft • How taking a wig and styling masterclass opened the Fashion Week door • The exact moment she asked to be considered for the team • Why she almost said no when the Paris invite came • What backstage at Fashion Week is really like (tight spaces, fast timelines, controlled chaos) • Why speed and solid technique matter more than glam • How creative projects improve your confidence behind the chair • The truth about “pay to play” Fashion Week scams Michelle shares honestly about insecurity, imposter syndrome, and the mindset shift required to step into rooms where no one knows your name. She also talks about how staying grounded behind the chair keeps her creatively fulfilled—even while expanding into global opportunities. This episode is a reminder that: Opportunity doesn’t always knock loudly. Sometimes it shows up quietly and waits for you to speak first. If you’ve been waiting to feel “ready,” this is your nudge. You don’t need to leave your chair to elevate your career. But you do need to put yourself out there. Listen in and let us know: If you got the invite to Fashion Week… would you go?

    42 min
  7. 16 FEB

    Gordon Miller- State of the Industry 2026

    Season 9, Episode 1: State of the Industry w/ Gordon Miller In this annual “State of the Industry” conversation, Corey and Katie sit down with Gordon Miller to unpack what actually happened in 2025 and what salon pros should pay attention to moving into 2026. We’re kicking off Season 9 with perspective, data, and real talk — not clickbait. Gordon, now the new General Manager of Intercoiffure, brings decades of industry insight to break down what’s actually happening behind the headlines. According to aggregated industry data (KIM Report pulling from thousands of POS and booking systems): Overall revenue was roughly flat Guest counts are down Frequency of visit is declining Retail dipped, especially in smaller businesses and suites Larger team-based salons (20+ providers) are seeing growth again Price increases helped stabilize revenue — but without them, many businesses were slightly down. Emotionally? The industry feels uncertain and reactive — mirroring the larger world. From “don’t prebook” to “retail is dead,” viral advice is spreading fast — even when it applies to only a small percentage of stylists. The reality:Most stylists are not booked out months in advance.Smart prebooking and retention systems still work. Social media today is marketing-driven, not community-driven — and that shifts what voices get amplified. Retail didn’t collapse — but it’s soft. Historically, retail accounts for about 5% of salon revenue (7% at its peak). The larger issue? The industry never consistently built strong retail systems. The act of recommending matters — even if the client doesn’t purchase from you.It builds trust, retention, and authority. For suite owners especially, inventory strategy and cash flow management are critical. Suites surged during COVID but growth is leveling off. Larger suite companies are now acquiring smaller regional operators. Chair rental remains larger overall. Meanwhile, 20+ person salons are seeing team growth again — suggesting a quiet shift back toward structured environments. Many newer stylists have never experienced strong in-salon education or structured mentorship due to post-COVID cuts and digital pivots. Independent educators can be transformational — but they reach only a small portion of the industry. Education — especially business education — remains the biggest opportunity. From AI concierge systems booking appointments after hours to tools helping managers communicate and analyze numbers more effectively, AI is already improving operations. It’s not replacing stylists — it’s supporting better business. The opportunity to do great hair depends on sitting on top of a strong business. Creativity matters.But sustainability requires systems, education, and intentional leadership. The industry isn’t broken — it’s evolving. The question is: Are you building a business that evolves with it? 2025: Flat — But Not FineThe Clickbait EffectRetail: The Real StorySuites, Rental & Team-Based SalonsEducation & The Missing ExperienceAI in Real SalonsThe Core Takeaway

    1hr 8min
  8. 24/11/2025

    Stop Putting Sh*t In Your Hair — with Boone & Ben of Highland Style!

    Stop Putting Sh*t In Your Hair — with Boone & Ben of Highland Style In this episode of Your Day Off Podcast, Corey sits down with Boone and Ben, founders of Highland Style, the clean-beauty disruptors behind the now-iconic phrase: Stop Putting Sh*t In Your Hair. What started as two friends fed up with toxic, lab-engineered formulas turned into a mission to create prestige products rooted in health, sustainability, and uncompromising performance. From ruined cookware to award-winning products now found nationwide, this story is equal parts grit, curiosity, and conviction. How frustration with toxic products sparked the Highland mission The early apartment-stovetop era and the first Glacial Clay Pomade batches Why clean, earth-based ingredients outperform “chemical soup” The DM to Mad Rabbit’s Oliver Zak that shifted everything Why aluminum packaging is a non-negotiable The truth about preservatives & Yuka scores Why natural doesn’t mean “weak,” especially behind the chair Avoiding SKU overload in a cluttered product landscape Highland’s mission: style without compromise What’s coming in 2026 (conditioner, leave-in, high-hold, and more) “We resolved to create prestige products that deliver on the promise of stylewithout compromising on health or sustainability.” Glacial Clay Pomade Glacial Cream Highland Wash Apply for a wholesale account at Highland.style → Wholesale tab. What We Cover:Highland’s Mission:Products Mentioned:For Pros:

    54 min

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This is @Hairdustry our weekly “Your Day Off” Podcast. We are hairstylist that bring you the success stories of the Hair Industry! Look for new Episodes with killer hair peeps every week on your day off! instagram.com/hairdustry Become a supporter of this podcast: https://anchor.fm/hairdustry/support

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