The Lee and Irene Show

Lee Holmes

WELCOME to The Lee and Irene Show! 🎙️ Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone bring you real, raw, and refreshingly honest chats about wellness, beauty and life, minus the woo-woo. We’re here to keep wellness human, hilarious, and totally unfiltered. theleeandireneshow.substack.com

  1. Episode 13, Naturopath Jane Papalia on the Mediterranean Diet, Longevity, Beauty, and Why Your Nonna Was Probably Right All Along, Wayne Gets ‘Splained on Reflux and Irene Busts Out a Rant

    2 days ago

    Episode 13, Naturopath Jane Papalia on the Mediterranean Diet, Longevity, Beauty, and Why Your Nonna Was Probably Right All Along, Wayne Gets ‘Splained on Reflux and Irene Busts Out a Rant

    Episode 13, Naturopath Jane Papalia on the Mediterranean Diet, Longevity, Beauty, and Why Your Nonna Was Probably Right All Along, Wayne Gets ‘Splained on Reflux and Irene Busts Out a Rant In this episode we chat about ·       What the Mediterranean diet actually is, and why it is much more than a Greek salad and a glass of red wine. ·       Jane Papalia’s story, from Italian family food culture to naturopathy and clinical nutrition. ·       Why the Mediterranean lifestyle is one of the most researched and respected dietary patterns in the world. ·       How food, movement, sleep, stress, and social connection all work together for longevity. ·       Why olive oil, legumes, herbs, seasonal produce, and quality proteins are the real stars of the show. ·       How to spot the difference between authentic Mediterranean foods and supermarket imposters with suspiciously confident branding. ·       Why your grandmother may have been ahead of her time without ever using the words polyphenols or microbiome. ·       How the Mediterranean way of eating supports gut health, brain health, heart health, and healthy ageing. ·       Why food is not just fuel. It is culture, connection, rhythm, and joy. ·       A very important debate about yoghurt, feta, olive oil, and whether Italians are secretly running the wellness industry Meet Jane Papalia Jane Papalia is a qualified naturopath and clinical nutritionist, and the beautiful mind behind The Mediterranean Naturopath. Her work centers on the Mediterranean lifestyle as a way of eating and living that supports health, energy, digestion, beauty, and ageing well without turning life into a never-ending self-improvement project. Jane grew up in a very food-focused Italian family, where her Sicilian grandmother shaped the way food, family, and nourishment were understood long before anyone in the household was talking about anti-inflammatory diets, gut health, or longevity science. In Jane’s world, food was never just calories. It was care, connection, culture, and the kind of love that arrives in a saucepan. She brings that lived experience together with her clinical work in a way that feels both practical and deeply grounded. The result is a philosophy that feels refreshingly sane. Eat well, move your body, share meals, and stop trying to bio hack your way out of being human. Her journey Jane shares how her mother’s cancer diagnosis became a turning point in her understanding of health. That experience deepened her appreciation for the fact that wellbeing is built through the everyday things. How we eat, sleep, move, connect, and support the body consistently over time. It’s a powerful reminder that health is not one perfect supplement stack or one heroic clean-out Monday. It’s the pattern of your life. It’s the stuff you do when nobody is applauding. It’s also the thing your grandmother probably knew instinctively while everyone else was making turmeric lattes and calling it wisdom. Jane’s perspective is gentle, real, and refreshingly free of extremes. She reminds us that the body responds to consistency, not punishment. What Mediterranean means If your version of the Mediterranean diet is basically olives, pasta, and one highly committed bottle of red wine, then this episode broadens the picture beautifully. Jane explains that the Mediterranean way of eating is built around: ·       colourful plant foods ·       extra virgin olive oil ·       legumes ·       whole grains ·       seafood ·       quality proteins ·       herbs ·       fermented foods ·       seasonal produce. But it’s also about how you eat. Slower meals, social connection, family, rhythm, and a less frantic relationship with food are all part of the picture. This is not a restrictive plan. It’s a living pattern. And unlike many wellness trends, it does not require a label printer, a subscription box, or a complete personality transplant. Why it matters Jane talks through why the Mediterranean dietary pattern is so strongly associated with better health outcomes. It’s not because of one magical ingredient. It’s because the whole pattern works together. The benefits discussed include: ·       improved digestion ·       better blood sugar regulation ·       heart health ·       brain health ·       cognitive support ·       healthier ageing Because this way of eating is rich in fibre, plant diversity, healthy fats, and antioxidant compounds, it also nourishes the gut microbiome, which then has downstream effects on mood, immunity, inflammation, and resilience. So yes, the humble lentil is doing some very glamorous work behind the scenes. The longevity piece One of the strongest themes in the episode is that longevity is not just about nutrients. It’s also about social connection. Jane talks about how family, friendship, community, and meals shared with other people all play a measurable role in wellbeing. That’s part of what makes the Mediterranean lifestyle so powerful. It supports the body and the nervous system at the same time. Meals are not rushed. Food is not eaten in isolation while scrolling. There is a rhythm, a social thread, and a sense that life is meant to be lived with other people around the table. Which is lovely, and also mildly insulting to the modern habit of inhaling lunch between emails. Olive oil and polyphenols Jane explains why extra virgin olive oil is one of the standout foods in the Mediterranean pattern. It’s rich in polyphenols, including hydroxytyrosol, which contributes to the anti-inflammatory and antioxidant benefits associated with the diet. Extra virgin olive oil is mechanically pressed and retains more of its beneficial compounds than refined olive oils. It brings flavour, protection, and a bit of actual joy to food, which, frankly, is more than can be said for many healthy products. There’s also a useful clarification around cooking. Yes, olive oil can absolutely be used in cooking, especially at moderate temperatures. So no, your family did not accidentally sabotage their health by cooking with olive oil for decades. They may have been onto something. The food detective bit There’s a very entertaining stretch of the episode where the conversation turns into a full supermarket investigation. You’ll hear about: ·       how to identify proper Greek yoghurt ·       what makes a feta authentic ·       why ingredient lists matter ·       and how to tell when a product is only pretending to be Mediterranean The yoghurt rule is beautifully simple. Fewer ingredients usually means better quality. If the label starts sounding like a laboratory internship, it may not be the product you want And feta? Also a bit of a minefield. The conversation makes it very clear that not all feta is equal, and that the version in the supermarket may be a cheese impersonator with a Mediterranean accent Herbs and flavour Jane brings a lovely herbal lens to the discussion, highlighting the medicinal and culinary value of: ·       oregano ·       rosemary ·       thyme ·       sage ·       fennel ·       lemon balm These herbs are not just decorative little green bits trying to look sophisticated on a plate. They have real digestive, cognitive, hormonal, and calming benefits. Rosemary is linked with memory and circulation, sage is often used in the context of hormonal support, and fennel and lemon balm are especially lovely for digestion and nervous system support. It’s a reminder that the food culture of the Mediterranean is rich in flavour and function at the same time. Which is a very nice trick. A Mediterranean day ·       One of the best things about this episode is how practical it becomes. ·       Jane outlines a real-life Mediterranean-style day: ·       Breakfast might be Greek yoghurt with berries, nuts, and honey. ·       Lunch might be lentil soup, minestrone, roasted vegetables, or chickpeas. ·       Snacks might include nuts, grapes, or vine leaves. ·       Dinner might feature oily fish like salmon, mackerel, sardines, or anchovies, alongside vegetables and legumes. ·       The message is simple. This is not a diet that depends on fussy recipes or expensive health-store ingredients. It depends on real food, prepared well, and eaten regularly. ·       Soup is also having a very good moment here and should be recognised accordingly. Womansplain In our Womansplain segment, we bring a very confused man into the cabin and extract a question that is relevant, useful, and just the right amount of chaotic. This episode’s Womansplain focuses on midlife digestive changes, particularly reflux, heaviness after meals, and that general sense that your body has suddenly decided to become more opinionated about dinner. Lee shares practical advice around: ·       eating earlier in the evening ·       slowing down at meals ·       reducing trigger foods where needed ·       being mindful of portion size ·       not lying down immediately after eating ·       paying attention to hydration and alcohol intake The overall message is beautifully boring in the best possible way. The basics matter, especially when digestion becomes less forgiving with age. Irene’s rave In Irene’s rave, Irene gives a big and heartfelt shout-out to the Clean + Conscious Awards, celebrating brands and products that are doing things more thoughtfully. It’s a lovely reminder that wellness doesn’t just live in our kitchens and clinics. It also shows up in the products we choose, the businesses we support, and the standards we keep asking for as consumers. This rave captures that very satisfying feeling of seeing more people care about clean, ethica

    1hr 8min
  2. Episode 12 All Hail the Sugar and Energy Queen Michele Chevalley-Hedge, and the Labels That Are Lying to You, Justin Finally Learns to Breathe, and Lee’s Rant on the Fillers Nobody Warned You About.

    16 June

    Episode 12 All Hail the Sugar and Energy Queen Michele Chevalley-Hedge, and the Labels That Are Lying to You, Justin Finally Learns to Breathe, and Lee’s Rant on the Fillers Nobody Warned You About.

    Episode 12:  All hail the Sugar and Energy Queen Michele Chevalley-Hedge, and the Labels That Are Lying to You, Justin Finally Learns to Breathe, and Lee’s Rant on the Fillers Nobody Warned You About. If you’ve ever eaten clean all day and still crashed by 3pm, reached for something sweet and felt worse an hour later, or picked up a “healthy” snack and had absolutely no idea what half the ingredients actually were, this episode is for you. Michele Chevalley-Hedge from A Healthy View, is a clinical nutritionist, author, and health educator whose books include Beating Sugar Addiction for Dummies and Eat, Drink and Still Shrink. She has spent decades working across elite sport, corporate health, and school communities, and she brings the same principle to all of it: facts over fads, nourished not punished. Justin, meanwhile, has been breathing incorrectly for roughly 59 years. Lee and Irene fix that. And Lee has a rant. It has a title. It is called Fillers That Fool Us, and once you hear it, you will never look at a supplement label the same way again. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🍬 What’s Popping: Sugar, Energy and the Labels That Are Lying to You Meet Michele •       A New Yorker in Australia: Michele grew up in an Italian-American family where food was love, community, and connection. Her father was a dedicated gardener. Her mother’s side was, in her words, the Chickarello Mafia, six sisters cooking abundantly for 27 cousins every weekend. She came to Australia in 1990 to speak at an IBM conference, fell in love with an Australian man within 24 hours, and never left. Thirty-six years later, she is still certain she made the right call. •       From IT to Nutritional Medicine: Michele originally studied technology, business, and education, and worked in the IT industry before retraining. After her third child, she returned to study medicine and found her direction in her first nutritional medicine class, an emerging field at the time with relatively little evidence-based research. She recognised the opportunity and stayed. •       The Modern Nutritionist: Michele describes herself as the nutritionist who loves a little coffee, wine, and chocolate. Her business is called A Healthy View for a reason: no extremes, no punishment, no all-or-nothing thinking. Sugar 101: What’s Actually Going On •       The problem is added sugar, not natural sugar: Natural sugars found in dairy, fruit, and vegetables are not the concern. The issue is the added sugar hidden in foods that look, and are marketed as, healthy. •       The recommended maximum is 6 teaspoons of added sugar per day. Most Australians consume 36 or more. Michele’s analogy: if you took 6 times the recommended dose of any pharmaceutical drug every single day, there would be consequences. Sugar is no different. •       What overconsumption actually does: Sustained excess sugar affects energy, cognitive function, neurological health, libido, mood, fertility, and sleep. These are not abstract risks — they are things Michele sees in clinical practice every week. Is Sugar Addiction Real? •       Clinically, it acts like one. It is not classified as an addiction in the same way drugs are, but it produces a dopamine feedback loop that drives repeated behaviour. The mechanism is hormonal, not just psychological. •       The good news: the palate can be reset. Small, consistent changes, without punishment or deprivation, are enough to shift the feedback loop over time. As the body begins to regulate more effectively, sleep improves, energy stabilises, mood lifts, and the improvements become more compelling than the sugar itself  The Blood Sugar Roller Coaster: A Real Life Example •       The morning: A chai latte from a cafe (8 to 10 teaspoons of added sugar) and a banana muffin (another 8 to 10 teaspoons). Two things that look healthy, with 15 to 20 teaspoons of sugar already on board before 9am. •       The crash: Ninety minutes later: fatigue, brain fog, irritability. Not low iron. Not early menopause. A blood sugar crash. The higher the spike, the harder the fall. At the bottom of that fall is where hunger, mood dysfunction, and energy collapse live. •       The cycle: The response to the crash is more coffee or more sugar, which starts the cycle again. By 3pm, after a salad lunch with no fat, protein, or smart carbs, the body is running on empty and reaching for anything it can find. •       Every spike drives inflammation. And chronic inflammation is the underlying pathology in virtually every major disease — cardiovascular disease, diabetes, insulin resistance, Alzheimer’s, autoimmune conditions, depression, and more. The Gut-Brain Connection •       Research from Deakin University’s Food and Mood Centre is producing world-class randomised controlled trials on food and mental health. The field is still in early stages, but the direction is clear. •       Real whole foods support the gut microbiome, which in turn supports serotonin production, immune function, and cognitive performance. Fibre, diversity of plants, and the absence of ultra-processed ingredients are the primary levers. •       The SMILES Trial: A landmark randomised controlled trial studying the effect of a real whole food diet on depression and anxiety. All foods in the study came from Coles and Woolworths. The results showed greater improvement in mood disorders than antidepressant or anti-anxiety medication alone. This is not a supplement. It is just eating real food. Sugar by Any Other Name •       Sugar has at least 25 different names on ingredient labels, including agave, rice malt, brown rice syrup, evaporated cane juice, barley malt, dextrose, and fruit concentrate. If it sounds like a yoga retreat in Byron Bay, it is still metabolically sugar. •       The label detective hack: Find the sugar number on any nutrition panel. Divide by four. That is approximately how many teaspoons of sugar the product contains. A can of Coca-Cola: 40 grams, 10 teaspoons. A ginger beer: 14 teaspoons. A commercial healthy smoothie: often 21 teaspoons of added sugar from concentrated fruit syrups. •       If sugar appears in the first five ingredients, question the product. The placement on the label tells you how much of it is in there. Better Sweeteners, Worse Sweeteners •       Natural sweeteners Michele supports: coconut sugar (low GI, contains inulin as a prebiotic), honey, dates, pure maple syrup (for its polyphenols and micronutrients). These come with context; fibre, nutrients, and a lower glycaemic impact than refined sugars. •       Sugar alcohols (anything ending in ‘-ol’): Mannitol, sorbitol, erythritol, and others are used in sugar-free products to allow the “no sugar” claim. For people with sensitive digestion, these cause significant bloating, gas, and diarrhoea. Michele sees this regularly in school-age girls consuming sugar-free energy drinks. Even for people without obvious sensitivity, she recommends avoiding them. •       Stevia and monk fruit: Michele’s preferred alternatives for those wanting sweetness without added sugar. Both have a reasonable safety profile and do not disrupt blood sugar. •       Real Coke over Diet Coke: Michele and Lee are both on record: if it comes to a choice, the artificial sweeteners in diet drinks are more concerning than the sugar in the original. Aspartame has emerging research linking it to neurological effects. Neither endorses soft drink, but the message is to be more afraid of the synthetic substitutes than the sugar itself. What to Eat for Sustained Energy •       Every meal should answer three questions: Where is the fat? Where is the protein? Where is the smart carb? This combination blunts blood sugar spikes, supports satiety, and keeps energy stable across the day. Michele’s term: no naked carbs. •       Breakfast: Eggs with avocado and a good piece of bread or leftover roasted vegetables from dinner. Fat, protein, and smart carb in one bowl. Not a sugary muffin and a cafe chai. •       Lunch: Ideally leftovers from the night before, with legumes or brown rice added for smart carb content. Simple, affordable, and effective. •       Hydration first: Most people confuse hunger for thirst. Starting the day with water and staying hydrated throughout is a non-negotiable foundation for energy. Without it, everything else is harder. •       Fast food navigation: Guzman y Gomez and Fishbowl are workable if you build your bowl with protein, fat, and smart carbs. Skip the chips from the fryer; have homemade chips in olive oil at home if you want them. Where to Find Michele •       Michele’s clinical practice focuses on personalised nutritional medicine, including work with schools, corporate clients, and elite athletes. •       Her books include Beating Sugar Addiction for Dummies, The Australian Healthy Hormone Diet, and Eat, Drink and Still Shrink. •       Recommended peanut butter brands: Fix and Mayver’s (both available at major supermarkets). Look for products with one ingredient: peanuts. 🧠 Womansplain: Justin Finally Learns to Breathe •       The Question: Justin has been shallow breathing through clenched teeth for, by his own estimate, most of his life. He knows from yoga that belly breathing is the goal. He does not always remember to do it. He wants practical instructions. Numbered, if possible. •       Shallow chest breathing: Keeps the body in a low-grade stress state. The nervous system reads it as a signal that something is wrong, even when nothing is. The result is a constant, low-level sense of depletion that most people have simply accepted as normal. •       Nasal breathing as default: The nose filters, warms, and humidifies

    1hr 16min
  3. Episode 11: How to Get a Virgo Level of Cleaning on a Capricorn Budget, Justin Discovers Chiropractic, and Irene's Rave for the Customers Who Never Left. 🧹

    5 June

    Episode 11: How to Get a Virgo Level of Cleaning on a Capricorn Budget, Justin Discovers Chiropractic, and Irene's Rave for the Customers Who Never Left. 🧹

    Episode 11: How to Get a Virgo Level of Cleaning on a Capricorn Budget, Justin Discovers Chiropractic, and Irene's Rave for the Customers Who Never Left. 🧹 Lee's house is, by all objective measures, immaculate. Irene has been trying to understand this for some time. This week she finally asks. What follows is a practical, funny, and useful guide to low-tox cleaning, from the products worth trusting, to the rooms worth prioritising, to the surprising science of why a clean space makes your brain feel safe enough to relax. Justin, meanwhile, has concerns about chiropractors. Specifically, he is not convinced that cracking someone's back constitutes a qualification. Irene has recently seen one. Lee has done her research. Justin gets moved, just a little. And this week the cabin gets a visitor. Tiki, Lee’s friend and the kind of person who turns chaos into calm without appearing to do anything joins Lee and Irene with a question that will resonate with a lot of women: what do you do when you're eating well, you're moving, and nothing is shifting? And Irene has a rave. Not a rant this time. A genuine, heartfelt rave for the customers who found their way back. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🧹 What's Popping: Virgo-Level Cleaning on a Capricorn Budget •       The Cabin Observation: Irene has been to Lee's house almost every week and needs to put something on record. It is immaculate. Not in a Coco Republic showroom way. More like a genuinely-lived-in bohemian fisherman's cottage where every piece of furniture was sourced from a market or a street, and yet the whole thing somehow looks like a magazine. Irene is in awe. She is also terrified to put her coffee cup down. •       The Virgo Confession: Lee is a Virgo. She cleans preventatively. Her house never requires a serious intervention because she never lets it get to one. She moonwalks across the kitchen floor in old socks to clean up after dinner. With the Michael Jackson Off the Wall album on. This is not a joke. •       The Five-Star Review: Pia gives the show five stars and calls Lee and Irene a 'dynamic duo' who unravel the mixed messaging in wellness media while keeping things interesting, fun and educational. Lee jumps out of her pants. They have two reviews now. They want more. Why Conventional Cleaning Products Are the First Thing to Swap •       The Toxin Load Argument: Irene makes a case that if you had to choose just one area of your life to detox, cleaning products would be it. You eat off the surfaces you clean. You breathe the fabrics you wash. Your children crawl on the floor you've just mopped. The synthetic fragrances, antibacterial agents, and endocrine disruptors don't disappear after cleaning, they stay on every surface in the home. •       Indoor Air Quality: Studies have suggested that indoor air quality with certain conventional cleaning products can be as toxic as smoking in your home. Ventilation matters. The irony of making your house look beautiful while compromising the air in it is not lost on either of them. •       Nicole Bijlsma, Building Biologist: Irene interviewed building biologist Nicole on her podcast over a decade ago. Two things have stayed with her: the number one way to stop toxins entering your house is to take your shoes off at the door (you're tracking glyphosate from footpaths inside), and the cleaning products you use on your surfaces are one of the biggest contributors to indoor toxic load. Nicole later created the cleaning range Abode  What to Actually Look For in a Natural Cleaning Product •       Cleaning Labels Are Less Regulated Than Cosmetics: Irene notes that regulatory standards for cleaning product labelling appear to be looser than for cosmetics. Brands may not be required to disclose whether fragrance is synthetic or natural. Brand trust matters more here than ingredient scanning. •       The Basics to Avoid: Sulphates, parabens, and artificial fragrances are the starting point. But Irene goes further her banned ingredient list at Clean Nectarine extends to things like phenoxyethanol, which many other 'natural' stores still stock. •       Plant and Mineral-Based: A useful filter, but not always sufficient on its own. Not all natural formulations perform well on every surface. Testing and brand reputation still matter. The Products Worth Trusting •       Dr. Bronner's Castile Soap: Irene's starting recommendation for anyone transitioning away from conventional products or DIY lemon-and-vinegar. One product, multiple surfaces, naturally fragranced with essential oils. Use it on dishes, floors, even your dog. Available in one-litre bottles. A few drops mixed with water covers most of the home. •       Ecostore: Available at Woolworths and Coles. Irene used to stock it in her first business. A solid natural range at accessible price points. •       Abode: Irene considers this the benchmark for natural cleaning products in Australia. Fragrance-free options available. Was Irene's biggest seller to the Home and Away wardrobe department, whose cast members with eczema couldn't tolerate conventional detergents. Affordable. Does everything from laundry to dishes to soakers. •       Koala Eco: Australian-made, certified toxin-free, multiple independent certifications. Naturally fragranced with Australian botanicals including lavender, eucalyptus, and lemon myrtle, all of which have antimicrobial properties. The packaging is beautiful. Irene loves it in the bathroom. Unlike Abode, it actually looks good sitting on a shelf. The Priority Order for Swapping Products •       First: Dish Soap. You're eating off what you wash with it. Make the swap here first. •       Second: Laundry Detergent. You're breathing it all day through your fabrics. •       Third: Dishwasher Tablets. Again, eating off those dishes. Room by Room: Lee's Cleaning Order •       The Fridge: Every shelf, every wall, every compartment. Natural all-purpose cleaner for the interior. Half a lemon to absorb odours naturally (or dry coffee grounds, or fresh orange peel, left overnight in a small bowl). Cotton buds or a toothbrush for the door seal folds. Bicarb in the dishwasher, not the fridge. Dry everything properly after. •       Windows: White vinegar and water in a spray bottle, buff dry with a lint-free cotton cloth. No streaks, no residue. The newspaper-and-vinegar hack their parents used no longer works, modern newspaper ink is different and can leave residue. The same vinegar and water bottle works on benches, stovetops, and splashbacks. •       Bathroom Grout: Bicarb sprinkled directly onto grout, white vinegar sprayed over the top, scrub gently with an old toothbrush, rinse off. The fizzing is the acid and alkaline reacting, it lifts the grime without requiring force. Be gentle with grout. •       Floors: Steam mop. No soap required, just water. Lee uses hers regularly on hard floors. For walls, she prefers by hand. •       The Washing Machine: One cup of bicarb soda into the drum plus a splash of white vinegar, run a hot cycle, once a month. Dissolves build-up, eliminates the damp smell that transfers to clothes. Also clean the front door seal and the glass door panel, the build-up in the folds is, in Lee's words, staggering. •       Dusting: Damp cloth, not a feather duster. Dry dusting just moves particles back into the air where they can remain airborne for days. Work top to bottom. Wash cleaning cloths at over 60 degrees to kill dust mites. •       Cutting Boards: Not plastic (microplastics). Wood or glass. Lee uses wood, cleans with Dr. Bronner's and water. For anything requiring proper antibacterial treatment, a plate is a practical alternative. A HEPA filter vacuum handles mould on furniture and other soft surfaces. Dust Mites: What They Are and Why They Matter •       What They Are: Microscopic insect-like pests that live in house dust. Invisible to the naked eye. •       What They Feed On: Dead skin cells. •       Symptoms: Itching, allergies, and asthma. Particularly significant for people with respiratory conditions living in dusty environments. •       Their Preferred Environment: Humidity between 70–80 percent. •       How to Manage: Damp microfibre cloths for dusting, HEPA filter vacuum, change bedsheets regularly, wash fabrics at over 60 degrees. The Psychology of Cleaning •       Cortisol and Control: The act of cleaning actively reduces cortisol and creates a sense of control over your environment. Particularly useful when things feel chaotic. •       Behavioural Activation: A concept from psychology. Doing something purposeful and completing it lifts mood. Cleaning is one of the easiest forms of behavioural activation, you can see the before, the after, and the result is immediate and visible. Even one drawer or one bench will shift your mental state. •       Irene's Wardrobe Moment: Irene spent the previous evening colour-coordinating her wardrobe after letting it build up for months. She arrived at the recording noticeably calmer. She has decided this was not a coincidence. •       Lee's Rule: Clean before you go on a trip so you come home to a clean house. Then clean again when you get back. A clean ordered space tells your brain it is safe to relax. 🧠 Womansplain: Justin and the Chiropractor Question •       The Question: Justin cannot take chiropractors seriously. It sounds, he says, like someone monetised their party trick. Cracking your back or your fingers at a party and then expecting a framed certificate for your efforts. He is open to being wrong. •       The Pop Has a Name: It is called cavitation. The sound comes from the synovial fluid inside your joints, the lubricating fluid that contains dissolved gases including oxyg

    1hr 13min
  4. 27 May

    Episode 10: Mason Taylor on Mushrooms & the Ancient Art of Not Falling Apart, Justin is in a Bit of a Pickle, and Irene’s Forever Rant About Forever Chemicals. 🍄

    Episode 10: Mason Taylor on Mushrooms & the Ancient Art of Not Falling Apart, Justin is in a Bit of a Pickle, and Irene's Forever Rant About Forever Chemicals. 🍄 This week, the cabin gets a very special guest. Mason Taylor,  founder of SuperFeast, Daoist philosophy devotee, and quite possibly the most passionate man alive on the subject of medicinal mushrooms, joins Lee and Irene for what may be the most downloaded episode yet Mason takes us through the ancient Chinese three-treasure system of Jing, Chi, and Shen and why your goal should never be immortality, but rather arriving at elderhood with your full self intact. He breaks down the difference between a therapeutic mushroom product and a glorified chocolate powder, explains why Tremella made Irene's skin look extraordinary, and reveals the underground Australian fungi nobody's talking about yet. Justin, meanwhile, wants to know if 2008 pickled onion brine counts as a sports supplement. And Irene has a rant-slash-rave about France's forever chemicals ban and why the brands who quietly reformulated their products are not getting the standing ovation they were hoping for. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🍄 What's Popping: Welcome to the Secret Cabin •      The Cabin Guest Situation: Mason Taylor arrives, giving Justin cause for what Lee generously describes as 'wariness' and what is more accurately described as side teeth and a low growl. There is room for more than one man in the cabin. Deep breaths, everyone. •      Mason Taylor Introduction: Founder of SuperFeast, mushroom maven, Daoist, and the man whose original podcast episode with Irene over nine years ago remains her most downloaded ever. He has come all the way from Byron Bay. •      Mushroom Pun Cap: Three puns maximum. They exceeded this before Mason even sat down. 🌿 What's Popping Deep Dive: Mason Taylor on Daoism, Mushrooms & the Three Treasures Daoist Philosophy & Longevity •      The Dao (Taoism): An ancient philosophy for moving through life more synergistically with people and the world. Mason describes it as 'real deep personal development, frameworks so life happens a little more smoothly.' •      Longevity ≠ Immortality: The goal isn't to live forever. The goal is to arrive at elderhood with enough vitality that you've done your work, tackled new projects, contributed to community, and refined yourself,  without projecting unprocessed baggage onto everyone around you. •      The Real Question: As Mason puts it: Does the world really need David Asbury forever? He only cares that this podcast beats his on the Australian charts. It will, after this. The Three Treasures: Jing, Chi & Shen •      Jing (Foundational Essence): Your superannuation of vitality. Bones, sex drive, the ability to age without degenerating early. Think of it as the ship. If you're burning the candle at both ends, you're leaking Jing. •      Chi (Vitality): The crew that runs the ship. Your capacity to integrate life, mobilise yourself, animate the machine of your body. Diet, breathwork, doing work that generates charge. •      Shen (Spirit/Mind): The cargo. The culmination of your personality, your mind, the refined diamond of who you are. The goal: protect it through the journey so your wisdom is fully intact in old age. •      Cultivating vs Leaking: You are always doing one or the other. Any practice, herb, work, or lifestyle choice either cultivates your treasures or leaks them. This is the core Taoist health question. SuperFeast A Purpose-Driven Organisation •      Built from Six Moments: Mason mapped six 'lightning strike' moments across his life that gave birth to SuperFeast, not for public branding, but as an internal compass. Every product, strategy, and company virtue derives from them objectively. •      The Purpose Statement: To dramatically lower disease and degeneration, creating superhumans who may enter into the realms of elderhood. •      The Business-Dao Wrestling Match: Mason openly wrestles with the tension between commercial and contemplative. His resolution: build the organisation like an ecosystem. Integrate all tiers, animism, hierarchy, flat family structure before graduating to an autonomous, purpose-driven one. •      Getting Back in the CEO Chair: Mason is currently back at the helm, reviewing marketing strategy to realign it with SuperFeast's founding essence. The Superior Herbs: A 2,000-Year-Old Framework •      The Shen Nong Ben Xiao Jing: The Divine Farmer's Materia Medica one of the founding texts of Chinese medicine. It identified a handful of superior herbs; Reishi, Ginseng, Rehmannia, Goji, Schizandra, Eucommia Bark, Astragalus and specified not just which herbs, but exactly which microclimate conditions were required for them to carry their therapeutic treasure. •      The Herbs and What They Do: These aren't symptom-treatment herbs. They're taken over a long period to protect the treasure of the body and prevent degeneration. The earlier you start, the more constitutional shifting you do. •      Why They Work: These herbs are adaptogenic, they intelligently restore regulation in the body. Think of them as 'little friends' that come in and help the body find its own balance, rather than forcing a pharmacological outcome. Irene's Personal Mushroom Story •      Nine or so years ago, Irene had Mason on her first podcast. It was her most downloaded episode. She started taking Jing and Tremella. The difference in how she felt and looked was, in her words, 'unexplainable.' She has since lost her way (largely due to selling a business, stress, and the natural chaos of life) and is now deeply, publicly committed to starting again. •      Tremella and Skin: Irene describes eating it 'by the tablespoon' and never looking so good. She is emphatic: this was not placebo. It shone from the inside out. •      The Plateau Question: When you stop feeling a big effect, that's not a sign the herb has stopped working. It may mean you've done the constitutional shifting it was bridging. Next move: dose up, or pivot to another formula for a different season. •      The Wrong Time to Stop: The most stressful, depleting moments of your life are precisely when you should be ramping up, not stopping. Mason's rule: when you're hammering your body, that's when these allies matter most. Lion's Mane: The Neuroscience Catches Up •      Mason's Mother's Stroke Recovery: Mason used Lion's Mane during his mother's stroke recovery at a time when it was considered extremely fringe. She has now made what some doctors call a miraculous and Mason calls a practical recovery. •      The Research Has Arrived: Lion's Mane is now being studied as a primary neuroprotective agent. The science has caught up with what Daoist herbalists knew centuries ago. •      Why It Exploded: The fear of neurodegeneration is visceral. Watching a loved one lose their mind is one of the great fears of our time. Whoever was 'doing the branding' for Lion's Mane in the Taoist immortal realms, Mason says, absolutely nailed it. •      The 2-Minute Noodle Problem: Mason's term for venture capitalist brands that spot a market gap and add a token amount of Lion's Mane extract to a gummy or chocolate. He is visibly pained. Particularly when people with serious diagnoses, MS, immune deficiencies, reach for the quick, cheap version because they don't have time to research. How to Know You're Getting the Real Thing •      Look for Fruiting Body: Not mycelium grown on grain. The fruiting body is what has the therapeutic compounds. Check the label. •      Look for Extract: You want the mushroom to have been extracted (as in a traditional tea or tincture process), not just whole-ground dried mushroom. If the label shows 'herb equivalency', it may just be whole ground product. •      Wood-Grown: Mushrooms should be grown on wood, not grain substrate. Organic certification is a reasonable starting filter, but SuperFeast operates beyond organic, testing for way more pesticides and heavy metals than required, to standards exceeding US and Australian organic certifications. •      Trust Through Time: Mason has been doing this since 2011, shows up everywhere, and has never had to change a product due to a quality or integrity issue. He started at markets where mothers would return after three months and tell him directly if something didn't work. That accountability never left. •      TGA Listed: SuperFeast is now TGA-listed as a registered medicine in Australia, which Mason notes is an almost impossibly expensive and opaque process for a small company, but gives independent credibility to the therapeutic claims. •      The Supply Chain: SuperFeast's herbs and mushrooms come from small, obscure farms in remote mountain regions, far from any industrial zone. Mason visits them. They are not mass production. Wild harvesting is used when responsible; when an herb approaches unsustainable harvesting levels, they move to growing in wild-simulating conditions five years ahead of when it becomes a problem. Psychedelics vs Functional Mushrooms •      The Line: Clear to most people now. Functional/tonic mushrooms are non-psychedelic, legal, accessible, and taken for cultivation and long-term vitality. Psychedelic mushrooms are a separate category. •      Where They Overlap: Mason is a sponsor of MIND Medicine Australia, which runs psychedelic-assisted therapy training. SuperFeast supplies mushrooms to graduates specifically for integration, using Lion's Mane, Cordyceps, Chaga and Reishi to help the body and nervous system process and recover from deep psychedelic or shamanic work. •      Jing for the Deep Dive: If you don't have the foundational Jing energy to undergo a deep dive, spiritual, psychedelic, or otherwise,

    1hr 12min
  5. Episode 9: Irene’s Everything Shower, Justin Tries to Win Over a One-Eyed Cat, and Lee Can’t "Liver" Without This. 🍯

    19 May

    Episode 9: Irene’s Everything Shower, Justin Tries to Win Over a One-Eyed Cat, and Lee Can’t "Liver" Without This. 🍯

    Episode 9: Irene’s Everything Shower, Justin Tries to Win Over a One-Eyed Cat, and Lee Can’t Liver Without This. 🍯 This week Irene finally reveals one of her most beloved and guarded rituals, the Everything Shower. Not a quick rinse. Not your standard weekday wash. A full Sunday reset from dermaplaning in the 4 o’clock light to sitting on the shower floor surrounded by essential oil steam. She walks us through every step, every product, and every reason why she believes this one weekly ritual does more for her face, hair, skin and sanity than any day spa visit ever could. Hosts Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone swap notes on shower playlists, bathroom aromatherapy, oil hair masking, dry body brushing, sulphate-free shampoos, natural body scrubs, magnesium creams and the great shower filter debate. Then Justin brings us a very pressing relationship concern involving his neighbour’s one-eyed, toothless street cat, Pirate. And Lee wraps the episode with a rave about the one supplement she says she couldn’t live without. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🚶‍♀️ What’s Popping: Autumn Rhythms & Rebuilding from Scratch •       Lee’s Garden Update: After proper overnight rain, not polite drizzle, every plant in Lee’s Palm Beach garden is outrageously happy. Even the tractor seat plants are standing to attention. •       Embracing Autumn: Irene’s reframe this year was to stop thinking of autumn as sad and actually lean in. Lee agrees: autumn in Palm Beach is her favourite season, with better parking, quieter streets and golden air. •       Listener Love: A beautiful message from Kim, who discovered the podcast via Episode 6 and says the sticky chai recipe has already become one of her most treasured ritual recipes and she ended with eight kisses. •       Irene’s World: Rebuilding Clean Nectarine from scratch, new staff, new stock, and a very anticipated Thelma and Louise convertible drive down to Palm Beach with the top down. (Lee is Louise. Scarf already on.) 🚿 What’s Popping Deep Dive: The Everything Shower •       Why a Shower Is So Much More Than Cleaning: Irene makes the case that the shower is one of the most underrated wellness spaces in the home. You step in carrying the day (or the whole week) on your shoulders and step out having literally washed it away. •       The Sunday Reset Ritual: Irene’s Everything Shower is a weekly Sunday ritual, starting at 4pm to catch the best light in the house. It takes around an hour from start to finish and she considers it equivalent to a facial, a body treatment and a mental reset combined. •       Creative Clarity in the Shower: Lee’s shower has its own Spotify playlist (today featuring Gary Numan and Willow). Irene uses hers to solve problems, including the famous story of the shower that made her delete a proposal to work for free for her old business, and instead start Clean Nectarine from scratch. ✨ The Everything Shower: Step by Step STEP 1: Dermaplaning / Face Shaving (Pre-Shower, 4pm) •       Why 4pm: Best natural light in Irene’s house. Good light is non-negotiable for face shaving. •       How to Dermaplane at Home: Use a dermaplane blade on completely dry skin. No water, no oil (for this version). Remove all peach fuzz and any stray chin hairs. Do eyebrows at the same time. •       The Myth: Hair does NOT grow back thicker. It grows back exactly as it was before. Full stop. •       Frequency: Once a week. Irene sells the blades and has done a face shaving demonstration on her Instagram. •       Skip the TikTok Spray Trends: Those shaving cream sprays going viral? Whatever they are, they’re being inhaled through the nasal passage. Hard pass. STEP 2: Hair Oiling (Pre-Shower, alongside Step 1) •       The Oil to Use: Irene uses a hair oil with rosemary in it. Rosemary is well-researched for hair growth. Castor oil is another excellent option for thickness. Irene is currently using a Vanessa Megan argan oil blend. •       Two Types of Hair Oil (important distinction): ◦       Wash-out oils (what we’re using here): Designed to be massaged into the scalp and lengths and washed out. Yes, they make hair greasy. That’s the point. ◦       Finishing serums/oils: Applied to dry or damp hair after washing for frizz control. Completely different product. Don’t confuse them at Mecca or Sephora. •       Ayurvedic Hair Oiling: In Ayurveda, different oils suit different constitutions. Coconut is moisturising for damaged hair. Sesame suits Vata types. Brahmi stimulates growth for thinning hair. Neem helps with dandruff and scalp irritation. •       How to Apply: Section the hair and massage oil into the scalp and all the way to the ends. Wrap in a warm towel. Leave at least 30 minutes before showering. •       For Fine or Limp Hair: Use brahmi, castor oil, and rosemary. Yes, it will feel greasy going in. It washes out. This is what builds thickness over time. STEP 3: Dry Body Brushing (Pre-Shower, while hair oil soaks in) •       Why: Lymphatic drainage, circulation, exfoliation, skin-smoothing, reduced appearance of cellulite. You can actually feel a buzz while doing it. •       How to Brush: Always brush toward the heart in long strokes, starting from the feet upward. Great for the back of the arms if you have keratosis pilaris (those little bumps). •       Brush Choice: Irene’s current brush is a medium bristle (softer than the original cactus-bristle UK brand she used to sell). Soft enough to go a little harder, but don’t scratch yourself. •       How Often: Ideally more than once a week, but once a week as part of the Everything Shower works perfectly. Do it on dry skin only, never after shaving. •       Cleaning Your Brush: Tap it out, give it a wash with warm water and a little Dr Bronner’s peppermint soap, then leave it in the sun to dry (not in the bathroom, or it goes mouldy). Wash every week or fortnight. •       Face Brushing: Some battery-operated face massager tools exist for lymphatic work on the face. Irene uses one with small dots. Do this at the same time as body brushing. STEP 4: The Shower Itself •       Shower Filter: Non-negotiable. Chlorine in the steam is inhaled directly into the lungs and can make hair go brassy and cause skin itching. A vitamin C-based shower filter neutralises chlorine. They’re cheap and easy to install. ◦       Bonus hack: Put chewable vitamin C tablets in a pantyhose sock and drop it in your bath to neutralise chlorine in the water. Irene tested it. It works. •       Essential Oils: Add a few drops to the bottom of the shower (not directly on skin). Irene loves lemon myrtle and eucalyptus. Lee loves lavender, rose, and peppermint. Endota’s certified organic spa blends (patchouli, ylang ylang, etc.) are a great shortcut for that day-spa-at-home smell. Check they’re the certified organic ones. •       Temperature: Irene has hers so hot she sits on the shower floor. Steam opens pores, softens skin, and clears airways. Lee loves the steam for creativity and idea generation. •       The Shower Cream: Irene’s current hero is the Weleda Rose Shower Cream. Completely natural and certified. The scent is so potent and beautiful that Irene’s husband used the entire tube without permission. She is still annoyed. •       Weleda also makes a range of other shower creams — citrus, skin food scent and others. Link in show notes. STEP 5: Shampoo •       Frequency: Irene washes her hair every two weeks. Lee washes hers once a week. If you wash daily, your scalp will adjust to weekly washing within a few weeks. •       Must Be: Sulphate-free AND silicone-free. Watch for dimethicone or cyclomethicone on ingredient lists, they’re silicones that slip under the radar in ‘natural’ brands. •       Irene’s Favourite: 100% Pure Sour Cherry Clarifying Shampoo. Smells like actual cherry, cleans thoroughly even after heavy oiling, and is believed to have some chlorine-neutralising properties. Makes hair feel genuinely clean without stripping. •       Other Good Options: Vanessa Megan and Mukti do great shampoos for shorter or fine hair. •       Lather at least 3 times after the oil treatment to fully remove the product. •       Cold Rinse: A final cold rinse makes hair 10x shinier. Irene knows it works. She also knows she’s not going to do it. STEP 6: Conditioner •       Rule: Mid-lengths to ends only. Never on the scalp. For fine or oily-root hair this is especially important, conditioner on roots creates build-up and weight. •       For thick hair: Same rule applies. Thick hair tends to have naturally healthy roots that don’t need conditioning. STEP 7: Body Scrub (Not on Everything Shower day — but worth knowing) •       Irene skips the scrub on Everything Shower day because dry body brushing has done the job. She scrubs in the daily shower instead. •       Best Natural Scrub: Three Warriors body scrub made for fake tan removal but extraordinary on everyone. Irene thinks it’s made with Tasmanian olive oil and pink sea salt. Available at Clean Nectarine. •       DIY Alternative: You can make this yourself. Sea salt + olive oil. Or try the Ayurvedic way: ground lentils rubbed onto the face and body. Irene met a woman in India doing this whose skin was the most extraordinary she’d ever seen. •       Lee’s Bonus DIY Mask: Ripe banana + yoghurt on the face. The enzymes in banana and the probiotics in yoghurt can genuinely make skin glow before a big event. •       (Frank Body coffee scrub also a solid option, available from Mecca and Sephora.) STEP 8: Post-Shower Body Oil •       Apply body oil to damp (not dry) skin imm

    1hr 19min
  6. Episode 8: Amelia Phillips unpacks the calories conversation, Justin gets schooled on friendships and Lee rants about green powders.

    12 May

    Episode 8: Amelia Phillips unpacks the calories conversation, Justin gets schooled on friendships and Lee rants about green powders.

    Show Notes: Episode 8 Wellness Unfiltered Episode 8: Amelia Phillips on Energy, Weight Loss & the Science of Feeling Good. We Unpack Perimenopause Fatigue, the Calorie Conversation No One Wants to Have, and Why Sleep Might Be Your Missing Link. Plus Justin Gets Schooled on Friendships and Lee Rants About Green Powders. 🎙️ This week we have Amelia, a nutritionist-slash-exercise-scientist with 29 years of hard-won wisdom. She drops a reformed cardio-queen confession, and a Venn diagram that actually makes sense. This episode might just change how you think about energy, weight, and why your body feels the way it does. Hosts Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone are joined by Amelia Phillips, co-founder of the Michelle Bridges 12WBT, host of the Healthy Her podcast, and all-round superstar in the women's health space. The conversation spans everything from the calorie deficit no one can avoid to the four biological pillars draining your energy, why meal delivery might be the smartest hack you haven't tried, and the one thing Irene needs to fix before anything else will work. Then Justin asks how men can deepen their friendships (spoiler: lead with the arms), and Lee delivers a rant on green powders that will have you reading labels with fresh suspicion. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🍽️ What's Popping: Meet Amelia Phillips (00:00) 29 Years in the Game: Amelia started in the fitness industry at 17, fell in love with exercise science, then realised nutrition was where the real challenge lay. A master's degree in human nutrition later, she's spent nearly three decades helping women understand the strawberries-and-cream magic of diet and exercise combined. The Low-Fat Cardio Queen Confession: In the 90s, Amelia was all about stripping fat, driving calories down, and burning 500 calories per workout. It worked short-term. It does not work long-term, especially once you hit perimenopause. She's completely flipped her approach. Sports Nutrition vs Lifestyle Nutrition: If you're an elite athlete, protein bars and ultra-processed quick-energy foods have a place. For everyone else, the middle aisles of the supermarket are a minefield marketed as health food. Energy Balance Is Non-Negotiable: If you want to lose weight, you must be in an energy deficit. 7700 calories in deficit equals one kilo lost. That's roughly 500 calories per day for modest half-kilo-per-week loss. There's no magic formula that bypasses this math. 🔢 The Calorie Conversation (Without Counting) TDEE Calculators: Google "TDEE calculator" (Total Daily Energy Expenditure), plug in your stats, and you'll get a ballpark for maintenance calories. For most women, it's somewhere between 1500 and 2000 calories per day. The Meal Delivery Hack: Amelia recommends going on a calorie-controlled meal delivery service for one month as a form of portion-size education. She did it herself, dropped 3% body fat in four weeks, and learned what a 300–500 calorie meal actually looks like. Be Fit Food Recommendation: High protein (20–30g per meal), five serves of vegetables, lower sodium, lower carbohydrates. Not keto, not forever, just a stepping stone to understanding what your body needs. Lee's 4-3-2-1 Plate Approach: 40% protein, 30% vegetables, 20% good carbohydrates, 10% fats. Visualise a pie chart on your plate. ⚡ The Energy Crisis: Why You're So Tired The Three-Circle Venn Diagram: Optimal energy sits at the intersection of biology, physiology, and psychology. Biology (The Four Pillars): Metabolic health: Your ability to switch between glucose and fat for fuel. Think of it like a hybrid car, when it's working well, you can't tell when it switches. When it's not, you crash. Hormone health: Not just oestrogen and progesterone, but thyroid too. Get tested annually. Gut health: One to two bowel movements a day, no increasing food sensitivities. You know if something's off. Inflammatory response: Measurable via blood test. Chronic low-grade inflammation drains energy. Physiology (The Earth Suit): Body composition; bone, muscle, fat. Under-muscled and carrying extra body fat? That's zapping energy. You've got another 50 years in this body; it needs to hold up. Psychology (Behaviour Change): We all know what we should do. Actually doing it requires behaviour change techniques, and if you don't have them, that's another energy drain. 😴 Irene's Fatigue Deep-Dive The Real Conversation: Irene has seen countless specialists, taken all the supplements, gone gluten-free, vegan, back to meat. Nothing has shifted her chronic fatigue. Amelia's Assessment: Nutrient insufficiencies (iron, vitamin D), hormone fluctuations, and critically, chronic sleep deprivation. If you're only getting a few hours of sleep most nights, every other system underperforms. Sleep Is the Starting Point: If you were Amelia's client, sleep would be priority number one. Everything else builds on that foundation. Ideally, a 7 in front of the hours. Can't Sleep vs Won't Sleep: "Won't sleep" is choosing to stay up working or scrolling. "Can't sleep" is wanting to but being unable to fall or stay asleep. Exercise is a massive lever for the "can't sleep" group. 🏃‍♀️ Exercise: The Inconvenient Truth VO2 Max Declines 10% Per Decade: From about age 30 onwards, your body's ability to use oxygen drops. By your 50s, you've lost 20–30% of your peak capacity. That directly impacts energy levels. The Fix: Increasing fitness even modestly can reverse this within a month. You don't need to become a marathon runner. Incidental Exercise Counts: Walking around a warehouse, chasing the Australia Post guy, it all adds up. But structured vigorous movement has an outsized return. The Research: Every minute in zone 2 or higher (a brisk walk where you can just get a sentence out) equals about 10 minutes of lower-intensity movement for the same mortality reduction. Lee's Fast Finish Hack: At the end of your walk, do three short sprints, 30 seconds each, even just jogging between two telegraph poles. That's hormesis: healthy stress with exponential benefits. Irene's Commitment: Running up the stairs. Starting small. Just starting. 🍫 Nighttime Overeating: How Amelia Broke the Cycle The Confession: Dessert seven nights a week. The popcorn-and-chocolate "bomb" at the bottom of the bowl. Sweet-then-salty cycling. The Strategy: Three nights on, four nights off. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday no dessert. Thursday to Sunday go for it. Environment Change: On the "no dessert" nights, Amelia didn't go to the couch or turn on the TV. Straight to the bedroom for a bath, aromatherapy, and a book. Kitchen closed. The Outcome: After three weeks, she started to prefer the night-time ritual. It extended to Thursday. The habit broke. Healthy Swaps: Protein-rich snacks at night, cottage cheese, a scoop of protein powder, collagen hot chocolate. Satiating, nourishing, and working toward that 100g-per-day protein goal. 💊 The Ozempic Conversation No Judgement: Amelia has become more empathetic over the years. Significant weight issues are not a moral failing. We live in an obesogenic environment designed to make us move less and eat more. GLP-1s Have a Place: Ozempic, Mounjaro, and similar medications are life-altering for some people. The anti-inflammatory effects are real. For the right candidate, they're a legitimate tool. The Caveat: Don't start lightly. Once you stop, weight often returns, and the medication's effects can be diminished if you restart. Work with a specialist. Find the right dose. 🧠 The Woo-Woo Conversation Amelia's Evolution: She started as evidence-based-or-nothing. She's become more open to the unexplainable. The Sound Bath Experience: At Billabong Retreats, Amelia had a chakra-unlocking meditation that left her crying, glowing, and in a honeymoon period with her husband for weeks. No research paper can quantify that. Lee's Mantra: "I'm healthy, wealthy, safe and wise." Five times a day. Every day. Part of her long COVID recovery. She's never felt better. The DAS-21: A validated depression, anxiety, and stress assessment. Separates the three so you can see which is actually elevated. Amelia will send it to anyone who asks. 📞 Womansplain: Justin on Deepening Male Friendships (approx. 00:32:53) Justin's Observation: Men have adopted "female-inspired" friendship behaviours, hugging, saying "I love you," sharing vulnerabilities but haven't acknowledged where it came from. The File Never Closes: Women are archivists of each other's lives. We remember the childhood wound, the mother's name, what "I'm tired" actually means. Men tend to close the file when the hangout ends. Practical Advice: Follow up: If a friend shares something real, text them the next day. Not weeks later. Stop waiting for a reason: Women reach out because they heard a song or saw a dog. The reaching out is the reason. Celebrate publicly and specifically: Not "she's great" but "this man talked me through something really hard last year." Organise something: Women make 100 plans, keep half. The planning is part of the friendship. The Arms: Women greet each other like the person is the best thing that happened all day. Arms up, full-body yes. Lead with the arms, gentlemen. ✨ Rant: Lee on Green Powders (approx. 00:55:52) The Problem: Overpriced, underdosed, proprietary blends with zero transparency. Premium prices for powdered convenience and marketing spin. Pyramid Scheme Vibes: Influencers, referral codes, commissions everywhere. Looks more like a distribution hustle than health. The Contradiction: Claims of gut health support while packed with emulsifiers, anti-caking agents, and artificial sweeteners that mess with the microbiome. Powdered Greens Are Not Real Food: Little fibre, no biological signals from whole plants, unless you're finding verified, efficacious formulations. What to Look For: Short ingredient lists where each ingredient can actually deliver effective doses. Spirulina, chlorella, wheatgrass, algae.

    1hr 20min
  7. 5 May

    Episode 7: Carol's MKR Confessions, Geisha Beauty Secrets, the Perimenopause Toolkit & Justin's Snoring That Registered on the Richter Scale 🎙️

    Hosts Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone are joined by Carol Molloy, a Japanese-Australian food extraordinaire, MKR contestant, and architect of unforgettable Japan food tours, for a conversation that roams from the secrets of geisha skincare to the gut-healing magic of soba noodles. Then Justin finally admits he snores loud enough to register on the Richter scale, Natalie checks in from the perimenopausal shapeshifting zone, and Lee delivers an acupuncture rave that will have you booking an appointment before the credits roll. Get ready for MKR behind-the-scenes gossip, a 15-minute Japanese weeknight dinner that will change your life, the truth about what geishas actually invented in beauty, and the perimenopause toolkit that no one tells you about; from flaxseed and creatine to magnesium baths and why your sleep is the most important lever you can pull. ✨ In this episode we chat about: 🍽️ What’s Popping: Meet Carol; Food, Japan & the MKR Confessional (00:00) • Fifteen Years, One Road, One Cabin: Lee and Carol go back over 15 years, teaching yoga together, and then somehow ending up across the road from each other in a sea-side location. Irene meets Carol for the very first time, live on air. • Food Is Love: Carol’s philosophy, shaped by a mum who is a brilliant Japanese cook and a dad with MS who meant the family always entertained at home. Cooking for people is Carol’s love language in its purest form. • The MKR Truth: Is it real? Is it staged? Carol delivers the unvarnished answer. Producers do nudge things in a direction, but everyone cooks their own food and says what they actually think. It is reality TV not scripted, not entirely real life ;). • The Raspberry Cheesecake Incident: Carol made two beautiful cheesecakes and forgot the raspberries. Adam sprinted to Coles. They still got a great score. The cheesecake, for the record, was spectacular! • The Dish That Deserved More: A Citrus Celebration dessert with six individual elements; lemon curd, mousse, passion fruit jelly, biscuit crumb, and more. Carol will be making it for Lee and Irene very soon. • Cold Food and Celebrity Photo Albums: Yes, the food can be cold by the time contestants eat it. And yes, Carol is now in the celebrity photo album of a Tokyo restaurant, filed alongside Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. 🍣 Japanese Food: Way Beyond Sushi • The Full Picture: Gyoza, sashimi, tempura, yakitori, hotpot; Japanese cuisine is one of the cleanest, most diverse food cultures in the world. Vegetables, tofu, fermented foods, pickles, and seafood do most of the heavy lifting. • Why Japan Is Perfect for Clean Eating: Not heavy on oil or fat, big on vegetables, built around letting ingredients speak for themselves. The natural flavour philosophy that underpins Japanese cooking is something Carol brings to everything she makes. • Sake Explained: Hot and cold, strong and subtle. The chilled version from the fridge in summer is genuinely refreshing. There are varying levels of intensity, and yes, it also goes on your face. • Gut Health Built In: Fermented foods, pickles, miso, and fibre-rich vegetables mean traditional Japanese food is naturally gut-supportive. Lee points this out and she is absolutely right. 🍜 The 15-Minute Japanese Weeknight Dinner: Carol’s Soba Noodle Salad with Teriyaki Salmon Carol makes this at least once a week and has converted everyone around her. Here is how to do it: • The Noodles: Buckwheat soba noodles; cook, drain, rinse in cold water so they don’t stick. Naturally gluten-free. • The Sauce: Soy (or tamari to keep it fully gluten-free), mirin (or apple cider vinegar for a health-conscious swap), a little oil. Adjust to what you have in the fridge. • The Salmon: Marinate in a tamari and mirin-style sauce with chilli oil or chilli flakes if you want heat. 15 minutes while the noodles cook is enough. • The Add-Ins: Pickled ginger, edamame beans, whatever is around. Cold or room temperature is the goal. • Gluten-Free Swaps: Tamari instead of soy, apple cider vinegar instead of mirin. ✈️ Carol’s Japan Tours: The Full Experience • What Carol Shows People: The full range; Michelin dining one day, a noodle stand under a railway station the next. Sushi, sashimi, tempura, gyoza, hotpot, hands-on noodle and sushi making. • Art and Culture: Lee says Naoshima, the art island, is a highlight. The contrast between ancient handmade craftsmanship and cutting-edge modern Japan is something Carol loves to show people. • The Shinkansen: High-speed trains, snow monkeys bathing in hot springs, onsen stays, Hakuba skiing in snow so powdery that falling over feels like landing in a cloud. • The Single Most Transcendent Moment: A shiso leaf wrapped dumpling. It was tangy, citrusy, completely unexpected. The moment when a guest tries something and their face just says everything. 🌸 Japanese Beauty: Geishas, Double Cleansing & Rice Water Secrets • Where Double Cleansing Came From: The geisha. All that heavy white makeup required a serious removal process. Camellia oil as the first cleanse, a foaming cleanser to finish. Carol and Irene both agree: everyone should be doing this. • Rice Water and SK-II: The story goes that women working in rice paddies had exceptionally soft, bright skin from the water. Irene stocks a natural rice water essence from 100% Pure, the clean alternative to the SK-II version. • Sun Protection as Culture: Japanese women have always protected their skin SPF 50+, reapplication, long gloves while driving, and the most extraordinary oversized sun visors on a golf course you have ever seen. • Layering and Hydration: Japanese skincare is built around layering: multiple steps, deep hydration, plumping. It is high maintenance and it shows. • Geisha Culture: Based in Kyoto. Geisha begin as maiko, apprentice geishas and learn music, hosting, tea ceremony, and drinking games. It is an art form that is slowly disappearing as younger women choose other careers. • Kimono Today: Still worn to weddings and formal events. Lee and Carol once did a full kimono photoshoot together. Photos incoming… 😴 Womansplain: What to Actually Do About Snoring (For Justin, and Everyone Who Loves Them) (approx. 00:32:53) • The Real Talk First: Snoring that wakes you up is not just snoring. It is your body sending a strongly worded letter. The word Lee is tiptoeing around is sleep apnoea, where you actually stop breathing and your brain panics you awake. It can happen dozens of times a night. • Why You Feel Terrible All Day: You think you slept eight hours. You did not actually rest for eight hours. There is a significant difference, and it explains the fatigue, the three coffees, the shot focus, and the questionable mood. • Risk Factors: Over 40, weight, alcohol before bed, sleeping on your back, throat muscles relaxing with age. All of these make it worse. • Step One. Get a Sleep Study: You sleep, you have a monitor on you, you find out whether it is sleep apnoea or garden-variety snoring. The fix is very different depending on the answer. • Step Two. Sleep on Your Side: Back sleeping is snoring’s best friend. Positional wedge pillows help. There are even shirts with a tennis ball sewn into the back to stop you rolling over. Unglamorous but effective. • Step Three. Skip the Nightcap: Even two drinks close to bedtime makes snoring significantly worse. The idea that alcohol helps you sleep is one of wellness’s most persistent myths. You pass out; you do not rest. • Step Four. Losing a Little Weight: Even a modest reduction can strongly reduce snoring because it takes pressure off the airways. • Step Five. The CPAP Machine: If sleep apnoea is confirmed, do not resist the machine. A lot of men do. They are wrong. It genuinely helps. • Irene’s Separate Bedroom Tip: There is still a stigma around couples sleeping in separate rooms. Irene would like to dismantle it. A few nights a week in the spare room is not separation, it is excellent sleep hygiene. Her husband gets up early and does shift work. She gets her best sleep. Everyone wins. 📞 You’re On Speaker: Natalie on Perimenopause, Sleep & the Supplements Worth Knowing About (approx. 00:40:41) • Meet Natalie: Managing partner in risk and insurance, interviewer of people, woman in her 50s navigating perimenopause, and self-described Elastigirl; constantly stretching, gliding, and shapeshifting. Presence is her superpower. • The Shapeshifting Analogy: Natalie describes perimenopause as another one of the shapeshifting phases women move through, like pregnancy, like every major life transition. Not just physical. Emotional, spiritual, the whole thing. • Resistance Training First: Lee’s starting point in clinic is always strength. Weight-bearing exercise supports bone health, muscle mass, and the metabolism that begins to slow during peri and menopause. • Blood Sugar Stability: One of the most important levers women can pull during this phase. More protein especially at breakfast, healthy fats, and steady blood sugar all reduce symptoms significantly. • Flaxseed for Hot Flushes: Two to three tablespoons per day. Lee started doing it and it really works. There is also research behind it. • Sleep: Natalie identifies this as the biggest change she has experienced. Tips: cooler room, no blue light before bed, consistent routine. Walking every day, even ten minutes in the rain, helps regulate the nervous system and supports sleep. • Alcohol and Perimenopause: Bodies simply cannot metabolise alcohol the way they could in their 20s and 30s. Irene’s biggest customer in her non-alcoholic drinks business was women over 40, and now she knows exactly why. Natalie cannot tolerate wine at all. Spirits seem to fare better, which her friends confirm. • Wild Yam Cream: Traditionally used for centuries for menopausal symptoms including cramps and digestive comfort. Some promising animal and lab studi

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  8. Episode 6: Healthy, Wealthy & Wise in the Cost of Living Crisis. Freezer Hacks, Gut Basics, Kitchen Beauty, Why Your Nespresso Is Quietly Robbing You and Fighting the Man Flu🎙️

    28 Apr

    Episode 6: Healthy, Wealthy & Wise in the Cost of Living Crisis. Freezer Hacks, Gut Basics, Kitchen Beauty, Why Your Nespresso Is Quietly Robbing You and Fighting the Man Flu🎙️

    Episode 6: Healthy, Wealthy & Wise in the Cost of Living Crisis. Freezer Hacks, Gut Basics, Kitchen Beauty, Why Your Nespresso Is Quietly Robbing You and Fighting the Man Flu🎙️ How do you stay healthy when every trip to the supermarket feels like a financial mugging? In this episode, Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone ditch the expensive wellness theatre and get back to the brass tacks of genuine, affordable health. From Lee's legendary freezer-stocked "renewable table" and Wednesday-night supermarket markdown raids, to Irene's single-magnificent-purple-suit philosophy on spending, they cover food, beauty, bills, business, and the one organ that outperforms every overpriced supplement on the market. Plus: Man Flu season is upon us, paramedic-in-training Kaya joins the show, and Lee lights a righteous fire under the wellness industrial complex. Get ready to raid the freezer, ditch the gym membership, negotiate every bill, and prove that looking after your gut is the cheapest wellness investment you'll ever make. ✨ FREE GIFT: The Renewable Table E-Book Lee is giving away her signature e-book to help you cook once and eat four times. Learn how a single roast chicken can transform into a stir-fry and then a broth, or how a pot of lentils becomes a soup, a side, and then a fritter. [Download Your FREE Renewable Table E-Book Here] In this episode we chat about: 🛒 What's Popping: Living Healthy & Wealthy in the Cost of Living Crisis (01:00) •      The Harbour Bridge Confession: Lee's origin story; a broken boom gate, police sirens, a 55-dollar fine, and the moment she decided to make every dollar stretch. Every word of it is true. •      The Purple Suit Principle: Irene's philosophy in a single garment, spend once on something extraordinary, keep it forever, and never look at fast fashion twice. •      Two Frugal Schools of Thought: Lee finds the free or nearly-free version of everything; Irene buys one brilliant thing and makes it last a decade. Different roads, same destination. Business Wisdom: Irene’s "PhD in failure" advice: Ditch the expensive ad agencies and subscriptions, pay suppliers early to build energetic cash flow, and use AI to do your own marketing. 🥦 Food: The Freezer Is Your Best Friend •      The Wednesday Night Supermarket Raid: When markdowns happen, how to load up, portion, freeze, and carry yourself through the whole week on one smart shop. •      The Renewable Table: Cook once, eat four times. A roast chicken becomes a stir-fry, then a broth. A pot of lentils becomes soup, a side, and a fritter. Lee is giving away the e-book — link in the show notes. •      Protein at Breakfast: Why eggs are still one of the most affordable complete proteins going, and how starting the day with protein stops those expensive 10 o'clock impulse decisions. •      The Clean 15 and Dirty Dozen: Which fruit and veg absolutely must be organic (strawberries, blueberries, spinach, celery) and which ones you genuinely don't need to splurge on (avocado, bananas). Full list in the show notes. •      Grow Your Own Herbs: Microgreens, coriander, and basil on a windowsill the return on investment is remarkable, and coriander is a brilliant chelator for the gut. •      The Cheap Luxurious Dip: Cannellini beans, lemon, a little garlic, a splash of olive oil hummus that tastes like a treat and costs almost nothing.   🧴 Luxe Beauty: Less Is More (and the Kitchen Has Everything You Need) (33:00) •      The Skincare Budget Hierarchy: Spend almost nothing on cleanser and exfoliator (you're washing it down the sink), put your money into one good serum, and seal it in with something affordable like Egyptian Magic Cream or Weleda Skin Food. •      Kitchen Beauty: Crushed lentils as a face scrub (Lee learned this in India), mashed banana as a hair mask, coconut oil as a makeup remover, cleanser, and full-body moisturiser. Free, and genuinely effective. •      The Overripe Strawberry Trick: Those manky strawberries past their best? Do not throw them away. Natural AHAs and fruit acids make them a brilliant chemical exfoliator for your skin. •      The Face Razor Secret: A dermablade removes layers of dead skin so efficiently that your serum penetrates at a fraction of the usual dose. You'll use a quarter of the amount — and it shows. •      The Free Beauty Product: Water. Chronically dehydrated skin looks dull and tired. Drinking more of it plumps the skin, supports the gut, and costs nothing at all. •      The Home Spa: Magnesium salt foot soak with a few drops of pure essential oil, a frangipani from your walk in a glass on the table, and an organic candle — a day spa experience for the price of a bus ticket. 🦠 Health: The Gut Is the Best Organ Since Sliced Bread (approx. 30:00) •      Why the Gut Comes First: Nearly 80% of your immune system lives there. Skin, hair, nails, energy, mood — the gut has a role in every system of your body. Look after it and almost everything else follows. •      Irene's Testimony: Years of adrenal fatigue, chronic tiredness, and skin issues — resolved when she finally focused on her gut. Her hair has never looked better. 🏠 Household: Bills, Petrol & the Art of Asking (approx. 50:00) •      Phantom Energy: Every appliance on standby is quietly adding to your bill. Turn it off at the wall. Takes 30 seconds. •      The Quarterly Direct Debit Audit: Go through every subscription every three months. Free trials rolled into paid plans, streaming services you barely use, apps you've forgotten about entirely. I'm looking at you, Amazon Prime. •      The Irene Alarm Hack: Set an alarm three to four days before any free trial ends. Ask yourself whether you actually want it. The answer is usually no. •      The Art of Asking: Call your electricity provider, internet, insurance company, and bank. "I'm reviewing my expenses — is there a better rate available?" The worst they can say is no. They rarely do. •      Petrol at Night: Petrol is cooler and denser after dark, so you genuinely get more for your money filling up at night. Also: buy midweek (Tuesday or Wednesday) when prices are at the low point of the pricing cycle. •      The Coasting Habit: Foot off the accelerator on the downhill, tyres properly inflated, window instead of air-con. Every small thing adds up. 💼 Business Hacks from the Hard School of Experience •      Subscriptions: If you're on Shopify, audit every app you're paying for. Most of them are doing less than you think. •      Ditch the Agencies: One weekend is genuinely all you need to learn Facebook ads, Google ads, and email marketing yourself. AI has automated most of what agencies were charging a premium for. •      Pay on Time (Better Yet, Early): Your suppliers will love you, give you first access to deals, and actually want to work with you. There is also, Irene firmly believes, an energetic benefit to telling the universe your cash flow is in good order.   🥤 Womansplain Fighting the Man Flu (57:00) Golden Gut Breakfasts: Justin shares how a "protein-forward breaky" involving turmeric and eggs has saved him coin on mid-morning snacks. The "Man Flu" Debate: The team tackles the age-old question of whether men truly suffer more or just have a flair for the dramatic. Dinner to the Rescue: Justin sets the scene for the discussion by recounting how Lee saved his evening with a last-minute freezer soup, the ultimate remedy for a man on the brink. 🔊 You’re On Speaker: Paramedics & Neonatal Kittens & Influencer Skepticism (1:01) •      Unflappable Superpowers: Meet Kaya: Career-changer, former fashion industry veteran, trainee paramedic, and — most importantly — a foster carer for RSPCA neonatal kittens. She is currently raising a six-day-old kitten on a syringe every two hours. An actual angel. •      The Influencer Question: How to tell a genuine product recommendation from a paid advertisement. Irene's rule: if they're being paid, don't buy the product. Lee's red flag: a hero ingredient listed at the very bottom — less than 1% of the formulation — while 90% of the budget went on the glass bottle and the celebrity photoshoot. •      The Simple Test: "They're not selling you a product. They're selling you their lifestyle with a beauty filter on.   😤 Frisky Finale Rant: The Wellness Industrial Complex (1:13) •      80-dollar jade rollers. 50-dollar detox teas. Gym gear loaded with microplastics that shed into your skin every time you sweat. Himalayan salt lamps collecting dust and pooling water. Wireless earbuds marketed as focus enhancers. Real wellness is free and dirt cheap. Lee is fired up and she is not wrong. •      What You Actually Need: Second-hand cotton clothing, a daily walk, plenty of water, garlic when something is coming on, and the gut-health basics you've already heard about in this episode.   🛡️ Lee’s Nutritionist Nerd Notes: The "Man Flu" Defence The Sleep Shield: People sleeping less than seven hours are significantly more likely to get sick. Zinc is King: It directly inhibits viral replication. Source it from pumpkin seeds, red meat, and chickpeas. Zinc Food Sources ·      Pumpkin seeds — a small handful is a clinically relevant dose. ·      Red meat (grass-fed where possible). ·      Chickpeas and legumes. ·      Hemp seeds. ·      Oysters — if it's a special occasion. The richest food source of zinc going.   Garlic & Vitamin C: Use food as medicine, air-fry whole bulbs of garlic for antiviral properties and get Vitamin C from capsicum, broccoli, and Kakadu plum. 📝 Lee’s Nutritionist Nerd Notes: Episode 6 Mentions Recipe: Turmeric & Golden Gut Scrambled Eggs: A protein-forward breakfast to stop mid-morning snacking. Combine eggs with

    1hr 18min
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WELCOME to The Lee and Irene Show! 🎙️ Lee Holmes and Irene Falcone bring you real, raw, and refreshingly honest chats about wellness, beauty and life, minus the woo-woo. We’re here to keep wellness human, hilarious, and totally unfiltered. theleeandireneshow.substack.com

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