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The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

The Defiant Camila Russo

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The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.

    "ETH and most DeFi is Trading Cheaper Than Web2 and With Better Growth:” VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    "ETH and most DeFi is Trading Cheaper Than Web2 and With Better Growth:” VanEck's Matthew Sigel

    In this week’s episode we speak with Matthew Sigel, head of digital asset research at VanEck, an asset management firm overseeing $80 billion, which has shifted its focus heavily into crypto. They started out with investments almost exclusively in Bitcoin, but now, with Matthew on board, the firm is becoming increasingly bullish on Ethereum and DeFi.

    Matthew has a very methodical way of analyzing cryptocurrencies, applying the same rigorous methods used in traditional finance, and so it becomes even more compelling to hear him make the case for Ethereum’s market cap growing to $2 trillion. He also believes even after this year’s bull run, Ethereum and most DeFi protocols are trading cheaper than Web 2.0 and with better growth.

    Thanking our sponsors:


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools here!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.

    • 1 hr 8 min
    "There's Going to Be a DeFi Universe Geared Towards Non-Fungible Assets:" NFTfi's Stephen Young

    "There's Going to Be a DeFi Universe Geared Towards Non-Fungible Assets:" NFTfi's Stephen Young

    In this week’s episode I speak with Stephen Young, the founder and CEO of NFTfi, a platform for enabling NFT-backed loans. For some people, decentralized finance and nonfungible tokens sit on two separate worlds; DeFi on one end with its different lending, boring, and trading applications, and NFTs, with their digital art, music royalties and collectibles. Entrepreneurs like Stephen sit at the intersection, with a platform that uses NFTs to provide a financial product. He says volume on the platform is booming, as many new NFT owners find they can now get liquidity from digital property they don’t want to sell, while lenders can get more attractive rates for their crypto. Stephen believes this is just the beginning, and that eventually, real-world assets will also become digital property incorporated in the growing world of NFT and DeFi.

    Thanking our sponsors:


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools here!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.

    • 43 min
    "NFTs are Giving Way to The First Art Revolution Since the Internet:" SuperRare's John Crain

    "NFTs are Giving Way to The First Art Revolution Since the Internet:" SuperRare's John Crain

    In this week’s episode, I speak with John Crain, the co-founder & CEO of SuperRare, one of the top NFT marketplaces. SuperRare wants to differentiate itself by being the NFT marketplace that best curates art, specifically. John believes the natural evolution for NFT platforms will be to specialize in verticals. The team recently launched a token and a DAO, and John explains how the move will be instrumental for SuperRare to scale its curation, as the original team gives up control and other participants propose and vote on what should go on the platform. We talk about the NFT boom more broadly, and how John believes NFTs are enabling the first artistic revolution since the internet.

    Thanking our sponsors:


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools here!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.He started doing so well, collecting Axies, which are NFT tokens linked to digital, mystical animals, that he started renting out his NFTs. He realized this could lead to an entirely new business model, and that’s how Yield Guild Games was born.

    • 1 hr 2 min
    "I Realized We Could Scale Play-to-Earn to Impact Thousands, Hopefully Millions of Lives:" YGG's Gabby Dizon

    "I Realized We Could Scale Play-to-Earn to Impact Thousands, Hopefully Millions of Lives:" YGG's Gabby Dizon

    In this week’s episode, I speak with Gabby Dizon, co-founder of Yield Guild Games, or YGG. Long before Gabby was into crypto he was into gaming, and that’s how he started playing Axie Infinity, a blockchain-based game where players earn cryptocurrency just for playing. Gabby eventually became a well-known figure in the Axie community, spreading the word especially in his home country, the Philippines, as he saw that crypto earned for playing was making a real difference in people’s lives. 

    Thanking our sponsors:


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools here!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.He started doing so well, collecting Axies, which are NFT tokens linked to digital, mystical animals, that he started renting out his NFTs. He realized this could lead to an entirely new business model, and that’s how Yield Guild Games was born.

    • 52 min
    "There's Been a Zero-to-One Switch for Institutions and Crypto:" Pantera's Dan Morehead

    "There's Been a Zero-to-One Switch for Institutions and Crypto:" Pantera's Dan Morehead

    In this week’s episode, we speak with Dan Morehead, the founder of one of the longest-standing and largest crypto funds. Dan founded Pantera Capital in 2003 as a global macro hedge fund. In 2013, Pantera began investing in Bitcoin and quickly shifted its entire focus into crypto. Today, Pantera manages $3.8 billion in digital assets and equity in blockchain companies. Dan said Pantera is planning on increasing the Bitcoin exposure on its liquid tokens fund from zero to somewhere in the teens, while its main bet will remain DeFi. Dan is most excited about what he views is a shift in institutions’ interest in crypto. Firms which had told him they would never come close to holding crypto, are now wanting to dip their toes. And in a still small market, that has the potential to make big waves.

    Thanking our sponsors:


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools at https://balancer.finance/!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.

    • 1 hr 1 min
    "There is No Political Voice to the Millions of Crypto Users in the US:" Ryan Selkis

    "There is No Political Voice to the Millions of Crypto Users in the US:" Ryan Selkis

    In this week’s episode we speak with Ryan Selkis, CEO and founder of Messari, one of the most popular crypto data and research companies.  Recently, Ryan has been very vocal about crypto regulation in the US. We talk about how he believes the infrastructure bill was a catalyzing event for the whole American crypto ecosystem. He believes while there are think tanks and corporate-led lobbying groups, the space is missing a grassroots entity that gives a voice to the millions of crypto users in the US that so energetically came to life against this bill. That’s why he’s creating a group to help mobilize voters in the crypto community to support pro-crypto candidates.


    Balancer, one of the leading DeFi automated market makers (AMM) for multiple tokens. Dive into their pools at https://balancer.finance/!
    Enzyme provides an easy way to build, scale and monetize DeFi investment strategies
    Kraken, consistently rated the best and most secure cryptocurrency exchange, which can get you from fiat to DeFi
    Aave, an open source and non-custodial liquidity protocol where users can earn interest on deposits and borrow assets
    The DeFi Pulse Index, by Index Coop - DPI is the easiest way to capture the upside of DeFi with the benefit of diversification.  Buy DPI today on your favorite DEX.

    • 1 hr 5 min

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