Hosted by Fiona Sutherland, Dietitian from Melbourne Australia, these are much needed conversations which elevate our practice and encourage ownership for our learning and unlearning. The Mindful Dietitian community is for Dietitians and health professionals world-wide who are committed to promoting peace with food and bodies alongside individuals and communities. Please join us! Hosted by Fiona Sutherland, Dietitian from Melbourne Australia.
Acceptance and Integrity in Weight Inclusive Care with Margit Berman
Professor Margit Berman on acceptance-oriented approaches in weight inclusive practice.
Margit I. Berman has a Ph.D. in counseling and social psychology from the University of Minnesota. She is currently Program Director and Associate Professor of Clinical Psychology at Augsburg University and Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at the Geisel School of Medicine at Dartmouth. She is the author of A Clinician’s Guide to Acceptance-Based Approaches for Weight Concerns: The Accept Yourself! Framework (Routledge, 2018) and A Workbook of Acceptance-Based Approaches for Weight Concerns: The Accept Yourself! Framework (Routledge, 2018). She was a recipient of the 2015 Hitchcock Foundation Scholars Career Development award for her research and development of the Accept Yourself! intervention for women with obesity and depression. She is past chair of the Society for Counseling Psychology’s Section for the Promotion of Psychotherapy Science, and is on the editorial boards of The Counseling Psychologist and the Journal of Counseling Psychology. She is a feminist, cognitive-behavioral therapist who trains clinicians in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and self-acceptance based interventions throughout the U.S.
Finding Meaning in the Mess with Chevese Turner & Amy Pershing
Chevese Turner & Amy Pershing on the power of advocacy, much over-due community call-ins and making sense of Binge Eating Disorder.
In this episode, Amy and Chevese share their lived experiences with an eating disorder and how it has influenced and enhanced their work. We discuss the pervasive myths, assumptions, stigmatisations and biases surrounding Binge Eating Disorder (BED), what it was like starting a non-for-profit organisation and having BED recognised in the DSM-5. Amy talks about why and how making sense of BED can support healing, more about the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model and how Health At Every Size (HAES) (R) can change and define ones practice.
On this episode, you’ll hear;
Chevese’s experience and observations of the myths, assumptions, stigmatisations and biases surrounding Binge Eating Disorder - see Chapter 4 of their book "Binge Eating Disorder; The Journey to Recovery and Beyond"
The pervasive & disturbing fat phobic attitudes of the eating disorder community; why it unfortunately reflects the illness and how some of the community need help to come along, in order to not cause harm.
Amy’s own personal lived experience with an eating disorder and what she heard when entering treatment for the first time.
Why making sense of Binge Eating Disorder supports healing and recovery – see Chapter 2 of their book.
More about the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model that can be used withing eating disorder treatment
How IFS can support healing and recovery through creating a safe space so clients and practitioners can go ‘within’ - safely – see Chapter 3 of their book.
Chevese’s lived experience; from being born a political advocate, to obtaining her political science degree, working as an advocate in the health care space and continuing her own treatment for her eating disorder.
How Chevese she came to be an advocate for Binge Eating Disorder (BED) and her journey to start a non-for-profit organisation.
The critical point of having BED recognised in the DSM-5 and the needed validation and utility it provided.
Health at Every Size: how the framework has solidified Amy’s personal and professional work and how it has changed and defined her practice and work with clients.
As mentioned in the podcast:
Binge Eating Disorder: The Journey to Recovery and Beyond, Book by Amy Pershing and Chevese Turner
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5)
Chapter 4 of Binge Eating Disorder Book by Amy and Chevese; The Epic Myths About Your Body That Keep You Stuck (and How to Give Them Up)
Chapter 2 of Binge Eating Disorder Book by Amy and Chevese; How BED Happens and Why it Makes Sense: Moving Forward by Healing the Past
Chapter 3 of Binge Eating Disorder Book by Amy and Chevese; Taking Your POWER Back
Health at Every Size Book by Dr Lindo Bacon, PhD
Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program that Works, Book by Elyse Resch and Evelyn Tribole
Connect with Amy:
Website: The Body Wise Program
The Body Wise Program on Facebook
The Body Wise Program on Twitter
Connect with Chevese:
Navigating language & Stepping Up with Amee Severson
Amee Severson on Trauma Informed care and raising Intuitive Eaters
In this episode, Amee makes a very exciting announcement (which might just involve a book and a partnership with the amazing Sumner Brooks!!), how she found her voice (which includes crossing paths with body positive leading advocate; Lindo Bacon), every dietitians responsibility when working with human beings, more on the weaponizing of words, how dietitians are so much more than ‘food managers’, what trauma informed care really is and how to have thoughtful and empathic conversations with fat / larger bodied clients and self-care on social media.
Here Fi and Amee speak about:
What Amee has been up to; from working online at home to finishing her final semester of grad school and becoming a body trust provider.
Amee’s new and exciting project with Sumner Brooks and how it evolved; YES, you heard right! It’s an intuitive eating book for kids (geared towards parents and caregivers)!
How Amee and Sumner are working to ensure the book is inclusive, HAES aligned and informed by social justice.
Amee’s personal growth and evolution; how she found her place and how she found her voice – and it includes an informative car ride with the inspiring Lindo Bacon!
Every dietitian’s responsibility when working with human beings.
The weaponizing of words and how the words we use really, really matter!
Understanding how our role is so much more than ‘food managers’ and ‘just listening’ to clients.
The essential need for ongoing unlearning and relearning.
Trauma-informed care; what it really means and what it isn’t.
How smaller bodied dietitians can be alongside, and have truly thoughtful and empathic conversations with fat / larger bodied clients.
Self-care on socials; Amee shares how she cares for herself whilst communicating on social media and how you can too!
As mentioned in the podcast:
Sumner Brooks, MPH, RD, LD – you can also hear Fi and Sumner chat on Ep. 6 of The Mindful Dietitian podcast, find it here!
Ellyn Satter Institute – Division of Responsibility
Lindo Bacon, PhD, Author, Researcher and Advocate
More about Amee:
Amee is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist (RDN) in private practice in Bellingham, Washington and has also worked with students at Western Washington University. Amee’s work with individuals focuses on repairing relationships with food and body for all of her clients. She found this work after recovering from an eating disorder herself. She holds a Bachelor's degree in Food and Nutrition from Montana State University, is completing her Master’s of Professional Practice from Iowa State University. She is a dietitian registered in the State of Washington, and has received training under the Original Intuitive Eating Pro’s Elyse Resch and Evelyn Tribole. She is undergoing certification as a Body Trust Provider. Amee has written articles for Healthline, Greatist, and the Scientific American blog.
Embodiment and Justice with Lisa Pearl
Lisa Pearl on deeply and critically examining the ways in which we consider body image and embodiment.
In this episode, Lisa shares her well-established career trajectory and motive for staying in this work for over 30 years, she discusses how body image, embodiment and ED / body image treatment has changed over time, why social justice for body liberation is essential – now more than ever, she shares a different way we can comprehend embodiment, the challenges and barriers to experiencing our authentic self / obtaining authentic spaces; especially for those in minority groups, why we need diversity in dietetics and how we can make it happen, why we must amplify voices and people of colour today and consistently, and the direction she would like to see the future of dietetics head.
Here Fi and Lisa speak about:
First meeting at Fi & Marci’s body image workshop almost 3 years ago and Fi’s initial shock of seeing Lisa’s name on the attendance list as an esteemed colleague!
Lisa’s long-standing career as an eating disorder specialist; Lisa shares her core motive for staying in this work for so long.
Lisa’s observations of how body image and body embodiment has evolved and matured over time, to include her experience;
Fighting against the goliaths of the 80’s diet industry.
First hearing about and connecting with NAAFA: the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, who introduced her to the embodiment work of HAES.
And the great opportunities and positive impact brought about from a presentation she gave during her master’s education.
ED and body image treatment; the advancements, declines and regressions.
Social justice and body liberation;
Embodiment; Lisa provides us with a new way in which we can truly understand embodiment.
The challenges and barriers of experiencing our authentic selves and spaces, particularly for those in minority groups.
The importance of acknowledging our privilege and the essential skills that providers in this field need.
Why we must have more diversity to foster safe spaces for minority groups and how we can start making it happen.
Amplifying people and voices of colour – why we must do it NOW and consistently.
Lisa’s vision for the future of dietetics, particularly the structure and content of dietetic education and her wish for all dietitians.
As mentioned in the podcast:
Fat Is A Feminist Issue, the book by Susie Orbach
NAAFA: the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance.
#amplifymelanatedvoices on Instagram by Jessica Wilson, MS. RD @jessicawilson.msrd & Alishia McCullough, @blackandembodied
New grad program at Simmons
Counselling and Nutrition Centre 360; the team and supervision opportunities.
Lisa Pearl is a licensed clinical nutritionist and eating disorder specialist. She is the founder of the Counseling and Nutrition Center 360, LLC. She is also the co-founder of the first graduate certificate and internship program at Simmons University for the study of eating disorders. In addition to teaching at Simmons, Lisa maintains her clinical practice, provides group and individual supervision for other clinicians, and teaches a mindful movement practice.
Find out more:
Anti Diet as Revolutionary Action with Christy Harrison
Dismantling Diet Culture and Oppressive Systems with Christy Harrison, author of Anti Diet and host of Food Psych Podcast.
In this episode, Christy shares the unexpected ways her book Anti Diet (Published 2019) have become relevant, how diet culture stops us from participating in life and in revolutions, why and how we can move away from the binary and binary thinking, the importance of understanding how we orient in the world, the inner process of doing the work, using our Interoceptive Awareness as our guide when doing anti-oppression work, what we need to think about before extending anti-diet messaging to other areas of oppression and a lesson in Cultural Appropriation (sign up to the full course by Monique Melton here!)
More about what Fi and Christy speak about:
How Christy was one of Fi’s very first guests on The Mindful Dietitian Podcast and how she is someone she looks too and learns from consistently in this space.
What Christy has been up to; focussing on social justice angles and roots of diet culture and getting her book deal and writing and publishing Anti-Diet.
COVID-19 and the current anti-racism movement in America; how unexpected aspects of the Anti-Diet book have become relevant.
The definition of diet culture and how diet culture takes us away from our purpose and disconnects us from what is going on in the larger world.
Moving away from the binary and binary thinking and dismantling systems of oppression and injustice through looking for the third option.
How we orient in the world, towards ourselves and towards others and how this can translate across different communities.
The inner process of doing the work; learning, dismantling, wrestling and letting go and what we need to consider and remind ourselves whilst doing the unseen work.
Using interoceptive awareness as a guide in anti-diet, anti-racism and anti-oppression work.
For people who are already involved and practising anti-diet messaging, the work that needs to be done before thinking about and extending these messages out to other areas of oppression.
A lesson on Cultural Appropriation (part of Monique Melton’s course, find more information here) and why white folks MUST work on appreciation without appropriation.
As mentioned in the podcast:
Anti-Diet Book by Christy Harrison
Sabrina Strings, author of Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia
Lucy Aphramor – Dietitian & Poet
Andréa Ranae Johnson
Ijeoma Oluo, author of So You Want to Talk About Race
Ibram Kendi, author of How to Be Anti Racist
Robin DiAngelo author of White Fragility
Monique Melton, Anti-Racism Educator.
More about Christy:
Christy Harrison, MPH, RD, CDN is an anti-diet registered dietitian nutritionist, certified intuitive eating counselor, and author of the book Anti-Diet: Reclaim Your Time, Money, Well-Being, and Happiness Through Intuitive Eating (Little, Brown Spark 2019). She offers online courses and private intuitive eating coaching to help people all over the world make peace with food and their bodies. Since 2013 Christy has hosted Food Psych, a weekly podcast exploring people’s relationships with food and paths to body liberation. It is now one of Apple’s top 100 health podcasts, reaching tens of thousands of listeners worldwide each week.
Christy began her career in 2003 as a journalist covering food, nutrition, and health, and she’s written for publications including The New York Times, SELF, BuzzFeed, WIRED, Refinery29, Gourmet, Slate, The Food Network, and many others. Learn more about Christy and her work at christyharrison.com.
Find out more:
Smashing stereotypes & Valuing Lived Experience with Cristel Moubarak
In this episode, Cristel shares her lived experience and how it lead her onto the path to becoming a dietitian, how she found healing through therapy, the core elements that supported her to find food and body peace, how she navigated weight stigma within her family dynamic, whether you should be sharing your lived experience as a health care professional and how it can be done professionally so to support and understand your client, how she found her place within dietetics (as an entrepreneurial superstar!) and how you can too through accepting that you are valuable and needed in this profession - just as you are!
Here Fi and Cristel speak about:
How they came to be connected, what it's like working in Canada from a weight inclusive framework and Cristel’s dream for dietitians.
Cristel’s work within her business; NutriFoodie, her work with clients and in education.
Lived experience, the path to dietetics and finding her ‘why’; Cristel shares her experience with disordered eating, dieting, weight stigma and healing through therapy.
The 3 core elements that contributed to Cristel finding food and body peace.
Navigating weight stigma within the family dynamic.
Sharing your lived experience in health care / dietetic care;
Why your lived experience matters (and doesn’t make you less professional!) and how sharing it can help you connect with and understand your client.
Ways in which you may be projecting your story and how you can avoid it.
How to side-step the power struggle between yourself and your client, along with a beautiful ‘planting’ metaphor to support self-reflection.
Being a powerhouse in the entrepreneurial space; how Cristel found her place
As mentioned in the podcast:
The Mindful Dietitian Newsletter – sign up here!
Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach
Marie Forleo – the intentional awkward pause video
More about Cristel:
Cristel is NutriFoodie's dietitian & founder. She is passionate about helping people give up chronic dieting & weight cycling to cultivate a positive and peaceful relationship with their bodies and food through group & one-on-one nutrition counseling & food coaching.
Cristel believes our relationship (with one another, community, food, and body) rises above number counting and idealistic (and unrealistic) expectations around food, eating and body image or size. We all deserve to respect this body we're in, and we all have the right to eat and enjoy food, too.
All services are offered virtually in British Columbia, Canada.
Find out more:
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