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Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.

  1. 22 MAR

    Tabor Robak and Harvey Rayner: from Human Resources to Art Basel Hong Kong

    00:23 - Welcome Harvey Rayner and Tabor Robak 01:40 - Human Resources launch and mint-out 04:44 - Tabor's thoughts post-mint 07:00 - Organic growth, communication and momentum building 09:00 - First reactions: risk, confusion and conceptual clarity 11:00 - Roleplay, identity and embodying PFPs 13:00 - Timing, AI and why the project works now 15:00 - The state of PFP culture and shifting expectations 17:00 - Market dynamics and collecting behaviour 19:00 - Collecting as belief in the artist, not just the asset 21:00 - Risk, politics and performing identity online 23:00 - Narrative construction and PFPs as creative tools  28:00 - Clowns, anti-status and rejecting “cool” aesthetics 33:00 - Mr Happy and corporate ideology 34:30 - What's next for Human Resources? 35:00 - Tabcorp as an art company and long-term vision 37:00 - Expansion, tools and the limits of the ecosystem 39:00 - Gender, identity and ethical boundaries 42:00 - Harvey on ChatFUKR, PFP fatigue and lessons learned 45:00 - Community management, responsibility and burnout 47:00 - New collectors and shifting audience dynamics 49:00 - Phase two and sustaining long-term value 51:00 - Glitches, clones and technical refinement 53:00 - Subjective rarity, provenance and long-term meaning 56:00 - Maintaining momentum 58:00 - Balancing engagement with artistic practice 01:00:00 - Institutional context and gallery reception 01:01:50 - Harvey on Art Basel Hong Kong and physical work  01:04:30 - Translating digital practice into physical space 01:07:00 - Presentation, scale and audience perception 01:09:30 - Series mechanics and live minting  01:10:55 - Focusing on accessible art for a more traditional collector base  01:15:40 - The power of the modern print process  01:19:15 - Finding positivity amid market swings  01:22:55 - Social media and the politics of art   https://x.com/harvey_rayner  https://x.com/taborrobak  https://www.taborrobak.com  https://rayner.art

    1hr 28min

  2. 25 FEB

    Abigail Miller and Micol Ap: sustainability, growth and long-term thinking

    00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol 01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs 02:20 - From corporate to crypto art 04:12 - Expectations and burnout 05:26 - Abigail’s background 06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy  09:32 - Crypto roots and art school 11:07 - Space struggles and growth 14:25 - Echo chamber and reset 18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation 21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience 23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10  27:11 - The missing middle ground for artists 30:53 - Avant Arte operations 36:01 - Artists, curators and different value propositions 40:41 - Industry challenges behind the scenes  41:33 - Vertical’s hard lessons 45:10 - Building in public 45:36 - Feeling on the periphery of the community 47:46 - Women going quiet 49:18 - Social media burnout 56:09 - Beyond Twitter, IRLs and mailing lists  58:09 - Why female artists tend to be under represented   01:06:05 - Bro culture and access 01:10:24 - Sustainability and long-term thinking  01:12:37 - Women supporting women 01:22:03 - Checks, balances and ensuring growth  https://x.com/micolmicolmicol  https://x.com/proofofgail https://x.com/avant_arte

    1hr 25min

  3. 15 FEB

    Jack Butcher, Adrian Pocobelli and Emir Dino: The shifting state of the digital art market

    00:24 - Verse Talks returns 02:55 - The state of affairs in digital art 04:40 - Launching new work, market cycles and algorithm whiplash 07:56 - Focusing on the internet as a canvas  09:15 - The difficulty in bridging crypto and wider internet culture  16:15 - Where are all the new artists post Art Basel's success?  17:55 - Crypto liquidity and its impact on the digital art market   20:34 - Building a diversified practice  22:35 - Has there been a shift in Jack's audience post Art Basel Miami? 28:40 - Over-indexing on institutions, the same names and public fatigue 31:27 - What actually changed after Art Basel Miami? 35:57 - Moving beyond Crypto Twitter  37:20 - Parallels between institutions interacting with crypto art and BTC's adoption by TradFi  42:09 - The benefit of releasing work into a quiet market  45:45 - Is 2020–21 Ethereum culture dying? 49:53 - The SILK model: global events, Eastern markets and physical-first collabs 52:48 - Jack Butcher at Art Basel Hong Kong 01:00:28 - Batsoupyum, cabals and treating money as meaning 01:03:55 - An argument for looking outside the echo chamber   01:06:41 - NFT aesthetics and the BAYC era 01:07:21 - Crypto art vs. art on the blockchain 01:08:13 - Node’s opening 01:10:42 - SuperRare's new exhibition, "We Have Digital Art At Home" 01:12:01 - Why Art Basel is so hard: costs and risks 01:13:33 - Bridging to the traditional art world and expanding beyond our bubble 01:17:24 - Martín Bruce's GEOCITIES auction 01:20:23 - Fresh blood, new energy and what’s next  https://x.com/pocobelli https://x.com/jackbutcher  https://x.com/DnoTAO  https://silkarthouse.com/

    1hr 26min

  4. 23 JAN

    Tabor Robak: Human Resources and the Tabcorp shared universe

    00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak 01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs 03:25 - The Tabcorp universe 05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre  11:10 - A critique of corporate culture 12:45 - The process behind Human Resources  16:05 - Traits and rarity   19:00 - Are we the PFPs?    19:57  - Community and the future of Tabcorp  21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds  25:50 - Determining the number of traits  29:07 - The relationship between Human Resources and Tabcorp  31:05 - Building the network  36:09 - Addressing diversity and conceptual challenges 41:36 - Exploring release mechanics and mint allocations  47:31 - How NFTs have fed into Tabor's broader practice 51:49 - What drew Tabor to NFTs as a medium   55:25 - Challenges and perceptions in the art world  58:20 - Online fatigue and a move back towards IRL 59:49 - Indexing Human Resources  01:03:34 - The simulation as a medium  01:06:20 - Tabcorp Labs artwork updates  01:08:25 - Keeping pace with technological change  01:10:22 - Art as a brand and the studio as a factory   01:13:47 - The social dimension of an artwork  https://www.taborrobak.com  https://x.com/taborrobak Human Resources: https://verse.works/series/human-resources

    1hr 20min

  5. 9 JAN

    Rhea Myers: making art to understand the world

    01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers 01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology 02:08 - Art school experiences and early career 07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry 10:59 - An artistic approach to programming 17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations 24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art 37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S 42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience participation 44:29 - Cryptocurrency and cultural misunderstandings 46:19 - Blockchain's artistic and conceptual impact 52:17 - Early days of Ethereum and smart contracts 01:01:27 - Art and blockchain: a symbiotic relationship 01:09:51 - The evolution of crypto art and NFTs 01:12:08 - The Fractionalized Phallus and gender identity 01:19:57 - Navigating the art and crypto worlds 01:22:31 - Reflections on the artistic origins of NFTs 01:24:03 - Gallery collaborations and curatorial insights  01:31:20 - Emotional depth, authorship, and personal resonance  01:34:44 - Introducing Koala Noosphere 01:40:02 - The concept of ownership in NFTs 01:52:41 - Future projects and final thoughts

    1hr 55min

  6. 19/12/2025

    Phil Mohun: building Node Foundation and the future of digital art

    00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun 01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation 03:23 - Why Palo Alto? 04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley 06:14 - The role of Node in the art community 15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach 19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation 25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards 26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids 28:06 - Creating cultural impact and a distinct brand 31:20 - Node's vision and nonprofit model 34:39 - Sustaining Node and community support 43:34 - The importance of physical and digital spaces https://x.com/philmohun  https://x.com/nodefnd?s=21&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw  https://nodefoundation.com/

    48 min

  7. 14/12/2025

    Terence Broad: from Blade Runner to (un)stable equilibrium

    01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad 02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey  07:16 - Transition to creative computing  14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art  15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding  19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded 25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide  34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career  34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI  36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium  36:59 - Challenges and breakthroughs  42:36 - Recognition and impact of (un)stable equilibrium  44:08 - PhD experience and artistic practice  50:27 - AI art and data ethics  52:15 - NFTs and connecting with collectors  55:27 - Future directions and inspirations  01:03:38 - Network bending, Teratome and other works  01:09:32 - How AI has shifted perceptions around creativity  https://terencebroad.com   Terence Broad on X  https://verse.works/exhibitions/unstable-equilibrium

    1hr 12min

  8. 05/12/2025

    On the ground inside Zero 10 with Matt Medved

    00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved  04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture 06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission 08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art 10:42 The Shift to Now Media 15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council 21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding  24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art 26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional Spaces 29:34 Interactive and Immersive Digital Art 33:00 - Highlights and Reflections from the fair 41:02 - Live on the ground inside zero 10 https://nowmedia.co  Matt Medved: https://x.com/mattmedved  Now Media: https://x.com/nowmedia

    1hr 40min
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