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Do you wonder what comes after purity culture? Do conservatives think you're too progressive while progressives think you're too conservative? Are you frustrated by the simplistic way the church spoke about sexuality and humanity? In this podcast, we untangle sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians through conversations that give you the tools you need to develop your own ideas to help you, your community, and your church live a wholehearted life exactly where you are today. We cover topics about sexuality, singleness, marriage, dating, divorce, parenting, and more. You will find sound theological framing and psychological insights shape our conversations with thought leaders in their fields. And you will leave equipped and empowered to live your life. For more information about our show and our guests, check out www.wheredowegopod.com.

Where Do We Go From Here Devi Abraham & Jessica Van Der Wyngaard

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 5.0 • 25 Ratings

Do you wonder what comes after purity culture? Do conservatives think you're too progressive while progressives think you're too conservative? Are you frustrated by the simplistic way the church spoke about sexuality and humanity? In this podcast, we untangle sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians through conversations that give you the tools you need to develop your own ideas to help you, your community, and your church live a wholehearted life exactly where you are today. We cover topics about sexuality, singleness, marriage, dating, divorce, parenting, and more. You will find sound theological framing and psychological insights shape our conversations with thought leaders in their fields. And you will leave equipped and empowered to live your life. For more information about our show and our guests, check out www.wheredowegopod.com.

    68: Why You Need To Watch 'Promising Young Woman'

    68: Why You Need To Watch 'Promising Young Woman'

    Want a movie that simultaneously makes you think about revenge and forgiveness, sex and consent, men and women AND romcoms? "Promising Young Woman" is director/writer Emerald Fennel's Oscar-winning movie, and you guys. We have BIG THOUGHTS about what it has to say to us today. Jess & Devi talk through the major plot points, tracking Cassie's choices in light of purity culture and the what the broader culture around us says about men, women, sex and consent. 
    (Warning: episode contains tons of spoilers)

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    • 1 hr 1 min
    67: Where Did Jenna Go From Here?

    67: Where Did Jenna Go From Here?

    It's time to hear one of YOUR stories. Today Jenna tells us about purity culture in California, how her teen years and 20s helped her make decisions as she got older. Her story will help you feel less alone. 
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    • 36 min
    66: Relationships & Attachment Triggers with Krispin Mayfield

    66: Relationships & Attachment Triggers with Krispin Mayfield

    This week we start to find ways to heal, grow, and move forward. Therapist Krispin Mayfield gives us simple tools to begin the process of healing. 
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    Krispin Mayfield a therapist trained in Emotionally Focused Therapy, working with individuals and couples in Portland, OR. He explores the intersection of spirituality and attachment science on his podcast Attached to the Invisible and has a forthcoming book from Zondervan in 2022. Connect with Krispin on Instagram and Twitter.
     

    • 46 min
    65: Is Your Love Preoccupied, Avoidant, or Disorganized?

    65: Is Your Love Preoccupied, Avoidant, or Disorganized?

    The science of attachment teaches us about how we relate to other people. As therapist Krispin Mayfield tells us today, we were created for connection, so how are we connecting with others if we were never taught how to do so in healthy ways? In part one today we cover the foundations of attachment: How we learn to attach, the coping strategies we use, what that might look like in our relationships. 
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    Krispin Mayfield a therapist trained in Emotionally Focused Therapy, working with individuals and couples in Portland, OR. He explores the intersection of spirituality and attachment science on his podcast Attached to the Invisible and has a forthcoming book from Zondervan in 2022. Connect with Krispin on Instagram and Twitter.

    • 56 min
    64: 'Biblical' Womanhood Was Always Cultural Womanhood With Professor Beth Allison Barr

    64: 'Biblical' Womanhood Was Always Cultural Womanhood With Professor Beth Allison Barr

    Remember those talks about how to be a "Biblical" woman, or a Proverbs 31 woman? What if it was never about the Bible? Professor Beth Allison Barr talks us through the cultural forces that shaped how the church treated women from the medieval period to the Reformation to where we are today.
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    Beth Allison Barr (PhD, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) is professor of history and associate dean of the Graduate School at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, where she specializes in medieval history, women’s history, and church history. She is the president of the Conference on Faith and History and is a member of Christians for Biblical Equality. Barr has written for Christianity Today, the Washington Post, and Religion News Service, and is a regular contributor to The Anxious Bench, the popular Patheos website on Christian history.
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    • 50 min
    63: What To Do When #MeToo Is In The News?

    63: What To Do When #MeToo Is In The News?

    Trigger Warning: rape and sexual assault
    What do you do when the news is triggering? Australia's been reeling with its own #MeToo moment, and as headline after headline broadcasted the names of abusers and politicians, we wanted to centre you, the survivors. Psychologist Naomi Palmer joins us to give us tips for those of you processing triggers as well as how to support the ones you love who are dealing with the news in a more personal way. This episode also starts off with a discussion about app dating, and how to gain confidence in dating after purity culture (Jess has five practical tips).
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    • 52 min

Customer Reviews

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25 Ratings

25 Ratings

freedomthroughbeingreal ,

Honesty and freedom

Thanks guys for the way you approach real life issues and stories with sensitivity and honesty. This is truly needed in regards to sexuality in the church and is the way towards freedom for so many people!

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I have enjoyed this podcast immensely! It’s just like a good old deep and meaningful with my besties. So many thought provoking topics that have challenged me to reconsider a stock-standard view of Christian ethics. I love how Devi and Jessica bring in the academic and human side to moral issues. Highly recommend and grateful this resource is available.

Aisjndhshw ,

A reformed pastor’s perspective

Thanks for the broad ranging topics that uncover the crippling nature of black and white thinking in the conservative church. I have found my thinking challenged to enable a grace filled culture in church that promotes an attitude of exploration of God’s word and Christian discipleship.

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