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A bi-monthly podcast untangling sex, self, and community for a new generation of Christians. Leave purity culture behind, save what matters.

Where Do We Go From Here‪?‬ Devi Abraham & Jessica Van Der Wyngaard

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.9 • 38 Ratings

A bi-monthly podcast untangling sex, self, and community for a new generation of Christians. Leave purity culture behind, save what matters.

    49: Sex and Agency

    49: Sex and Agency

    Waiting for permission? You're not the only one... Listen in to this remix of Devi's conversation with sex therapist and author, Sheila Gregoire - our guest on the episode Sex is for Wives too. We update our debrief on Sheila's profound insights and take the conversation further discussing individual agency around major life decisions such as sexual ethics.
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    • 43 min
    51: Ravi Zacharias Update, Love Actually and More!

    51: Ravi Zacharias Update, Love Actually and More!

    We start 2021 off with a letter from our mailbag, personal news, and a look at the recent report from Miller & Martin regarding the firm's investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct against Ravi Zacharias. The news is bad. Do Christians like Tim Tebow, Louie Giglio, and Christine Caine who publicly said #thankyouRavi owe his victims an apology? We also look back at the heartwarming Christmas movie Love, Actually to see if it holds up, actually.
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    • 49 min
    52: Parenting and Re-parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers

    52: Parenting and Re-parenting Without Sexual Shame with Dr. Tina Schermer Sellers

    It's not ONE sex talk, it's one hundred one-minute conversations about sexuality, intimacy, and body curiosity. Ever wondered how to parent your kids in a way that celebrates their sexuality instead of fearing it? THIS is the one you've been waiting for as we welcome Dr. Tina to our show. She brings a wealth of wisdom and practical advice drawing from over 30 years of experience in sexual health, therapy, and education. Not a parent? Maybe you've been wondering how to reparent yourself from the years you spent in Purity Culture - this conversation is for you too. Learn how to have compassion for your younger self and walk forward embracing the gift of your body, your curiosity, and your sexuality. 
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    Tina Schermer Sellers, PhD, LMFT, CSTS is a licensed sex and gender feminist psychotherapist, writer, researcher, supervisor, and public figure whose expertise spans sex therapy, spiritual intimacy, medicine, parenting, and social justice. Dr. Sellers' book Sex, God, & the Conservative Church – Erasing Shame from Sexual Intimacy has had a global impact exposing the damage of sexual shame. Now she speaks throughout the world on how to heal, and how to raise shame-free relationally confident children. Connect with her on Instagram @drtinashameless
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    • 52 min
    53: What Makes Sex Good with Dr. Celeste Holbrook

    53: What Makes Sex Good with Dr. Celeste Holbrook

    Consider this your private appointment with a sex educator to find out all the details you missed out on about s-e-x. Dr. Celeste Holbrook joins us to talk about spontaneous and responsive arousal, sexual pivoting, and some basics around communication when it comes to sex. This is a conversation for grown ups only, and for people who are ready to have better sex now.
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    Dr. Celeste Holbrook is a sexologist and speaker who helps her clients evolve into the women they were created to be, in and outside of the bedroom. She speaks on a variety of topics from sex drive and sexual shame to painful intercourse, purity culture and more. Her mission is to provide safe spaces for people to talk about sex Dr. Celeste has been featured in Women’s Health Magazine, Mothers of Preschoolers, Reader's Digest and more. Connect with Dr. Celeste on Instagram

    • 51 min
    54: Where Did Jason Go From Here?

    54: Where Did Jason Go From Here?

    Every month we are going to bring you stories of every day people who listen to the show and are working out what to do with what they learn here. Today, we meet Jason. He's from California but lives in Melbourne with his wife and family, and he's a chaplain at a Christian school.
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    his youth group years life at a conservative Bible college the transition into adulthood in Australia  and how he's learning to listen and develop empathy for people who aren't like him Talk to us on Instagram and Twitter
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    55: Galentines and the Celebration of Friendship in a Romance World

    55: Galentines and the Celebration of Friendship in a Romance World

    February the month of love! Why is it though that both the broader culture and church culture tries to funnel us toward romantic love as the only expression of love there is? We want to celebrate Galentines today (and may we suggest, Guy-entines?!), and celebrate the reasons why our friendships are worth the investment. We explore why it might be tricky in our highly online, disconnected world, and we examine how to maintain friendships while dating or after marriage. 
    We also open up the mailbag and have another segment with Dr. Celeste Holbrook answering a sex question at the end. 
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Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
38 Ratings

38 Ratings

Amyseuss ,

My go to podcast!

Jess and Devi are amazing hosts and I love their willingness to engage with, discuss and learn more about current issues in church and purity culture.

PeteLain ,

Breaking free of half truths/half lies

‘Where do we go from here’ has opened my eyes to the shame and toxicity that comes from an unhealthy sexual ethic. Allowing me to delve into freedom for my body and my life through my own beliefs, seeking knowledge and truth for life with sexual/spiritual freedom.

Jtcmup ,

Love the podcast

Devi and Jess discuss issues in a nuanced and balanced way. Not in a “think this or that way” but have you considered this way. It’s refreshing and I look forward to their podcasts and guests that they often have on.

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