What Runs a Run

Kamal Datta

Welcome to What Runs a Run podcast where we are exploring the ecosystem that fuels the runners, running communities, organizers and everything in between. This podcast is broken down into mini series diving deep into a specific theme, for example in Tech in 26.2 we chat with entrepreneurs and professionals at the forefront of innovation supporting runners and the running events. If you are a curious athlete, we believe you will enjoy this podcast. Thanks for listening!!

  1. The 1.8 Million Cup Conundrum: How Chicago Runs the World’s Greenest Marathon

    2 DAYS AGO

    The 1.8 Million Cup Conundrum: How Chicago Runs the World’s Greenest Marathon

    Sustainable Practices at the Chicago Marathon: A Deep Dive into Environmental Impact & Innovation In this episode of #Sustainability in 26.2 series of What Runs a Run podcast, we explore how the Chicago Marathon is innovating sustainable solutions to reduce its environmental footprint, from waste diversion to carbon offset programs. Cat Morris, the Sustainability Manager at Chicago Marathon Events (CME), shares insights into the race's initiatives, challenges, and success stories, offering practical tips for runners and event organizers alike. Key Takeaways: How the Chicago Marathon implements large-scale composting and waste diversion, achieving an 83% rateStrategies for reducing the carbon footprint, including participant travel emissions and renewable energy useThe role and impact of volunteer programs like the Green Team volunteers in sustainability effortsInnovative partnerships with TerraCycle for recycling gel wrappers, heat sheets, and packaging wasteCommunity engagement through soil donation, food recovery, and neighborhood neighborhood impactPractical sustainability tips for runners: reusables, clothing choices, and course hydrationFuture goals including zero waste certification, organizational sustainability certification, and expanding offset programs Time Stamps: 00:00 - Introduction to sustainability in the Chicago Marathon 00:28 - Kat Morris’s journey to leading the marathon’s sustainability efforts 01:12 - Key initiatives since 2015, including compostable cups 02:36 - Achieving large-scale waste diversion and composting strategies 03:33 - Partnering with Gatorade and branding reusable cups 04:34 - Collecting banana peels and other compostables, donating soil to community gardens 05:14 - Soil to soil program and the broader impact on neighborhoods 07:01 - Waste diversion metrics and programs for gel and snack wrappers 08:10 - Recycling heat sheets and other course materials with Trex 09:13 - Challenges and evolution in recycling and composting partnerships 11:14 - Volunteer involvement, Green Team programs, and community engagement 13:36 - Partnership with College of Chicago and water refill stations 15:11 - balancing international participation and carbon emissions 16:28 - Initiatives for carbon offsetting, including reforestation and renewable energy 18:33 - Electric vehicles in the marathon’s transportation fleet 19:22 - Strategies supporting a 50% emissions reduction goal by 2030 21:52 - Potential for a carbon levy or offsets for overseas travelers 23:41 - Recycling sneakers, medals, and sustainable merchandise options 25:08 - Community impact: neighborhood management, food recovery, and local economic benefits 29:40 - Runner tips for sustainability: reusable water bottles, clothing donation, and eco-friendly gear 33:15 - Launch of the new event, "Plugging," for community clean-ups 35:39 - Growing participation in environmental volunteer initiatives 37:19 - Surprising items found in waste bins and local neighborhood runs 38:33 - Favorite neighborhoods for running and tips for eco-conscious training 39:39 - Quickfire fun: best post-race snacks, scents, and memorable marathon finds 40:27 - Reflecting on a 90% waste diversion goal and imagining a zero-waste world 43:34 - What’s next for Chicago's sustainability efforts after achieving Evergreen status Reference (s): Chicago Marathon Sustainability Initiatives - Link

    38 min
  2. From Barkley Marathons to The Green Runners: A Manifesto for the Modern Athlete

    23 MAR

    From Barkley Marathons to The Green Runners: A Manifesto for the Modern Athlete

    Is "Sustainable Running" an Oxymoron? 🌍👟 Damian Hall (author of We Can’t Run Away From This) breaks it down in the this episode of Sustainability in 26.2 series. If you think sustainability is just about recycled medals, this episode will challenge you. Here are 3 "Inconvenient Truths" Damian shared for runners and race organizers: 1️⃣ The 90% Rule: Participant travel (flights/driving) accounts for the vast majority of a race's footprint. We need to talk about "Racing Local" more than we talk about plastic cups. 2️⃣ The Power of "No": Damian recently walked away from major brand deals to stay true to the Game Changer Sponsorship Pledge. Integrity has a price, but silence costs more. 3️⃣ Longevity is Ecological: His new book Run Forever argues that staying fit into your 50s isn't just about PRs—it’s about becoming a long-term steward of the trails. Whether you're a marathoner or a race director, Damian’s "4 Pillars" framework is a masterclass in systemic change. Time stamps: 00:00 - Ultra running as an ecological statement: Damian Hall’s journey 02:30 - The complexities and wild terrain of the Barclay Marathons 03:52 - Barefoot river crossings and their environmental significance 06:19 - Damian’s reflections on race logistics, course secrecy, and planning 07:58 - The challenge of recceing off-trail races and how athletes prepare 10:34 - Transitioning from a non-running background to ultramarathon excellence 12:13 - How early races sparked a passion for ultra-distance running 13:34 - Fast escalation: from half marathon to 268-mile race 14:40 - Recognizing environmental issues in the running community 16:19 - Insights from Damian’s book "Run Forever" on aging and mindset 18:07 - Overcoming overconsumption: race waste and kit lifecycle 19:02 - The impact of sports washing and industry influence on environmental initiatives 20:28 - Industry sponsorship, greenwashing, and promoting responsibility 22:33 - The Green Runners’ four pillars for sustainable running: travel, kit, fuel, and advocacy 25:43 - Challenging high-footprint races like QAnon and Seven Continent Marathon 27:01 - Shoes and gear longevity: the science of durability and reducing waste 30:03 - The importance of systemic change over individual efforts 31:54 - Damian’s experience with brands and navigating sustainability commitments 34:02 - The future of responsible sponsorship in ultra and mainstream sports 36:25 - How durable shoes and mindful consumption can transform the sport 38:35 - Long-distance shoes, their lifespan, and the importance of design for sustainability 41:06 - Damian’s upcoming book "Run Forever" and longevity in running 43:02 - The role of mindset, perception, and attitude towards aging and performance 44:40 - Practical tips for maintaining health, strength, and running ability over decades 46:12 - Rapid fire insights: Should carbon-plated shoes be banned? 47:14 - The progress and pitfalls of the London Marathon’s sustainability efforts 48:40 - Constraints on racing travel: is a one flight every five years rule feasible? 50:34 - Industry-wide responsibility versus athlete individual choices 51:46 - The significance of language: understanding "Kerfufflefuck" and metaphorical expressions 52:11 - Closing thoughts: Damian’s call for responsibility, systemic change, and resilient gear choices

    46 min
  3. Where Do Your Old Running Shoes Actually Go? (The Truth)

    14 MAR

    Where Do Your Old Running Shoes Actually Go? (The Truth)

    🌍 Did you know that a staggering 90% of footwear ends up in landfills? Join us on this episode of What Runs a Run as we dive into the world of sustainable sneakers and how we can change the story of our old shoes with Founder & CEO of Sneaker Impact, Moe Hachem. Explore how Sneaker Impact is transforming sneaker disposal and recycling into a social and environmental movement. This episode delves into innovative technologies, industry challenges, and actionable steps for runners and brands to reduce footwear waste. Key Takeaways from the episode: The environmental impact of the global sneaker industry and waste statisticsSneaker Impact’s process: collection, AI sorting, reuse, and recyclingHow shoes are repurposed for developing nations and micro-business opportunitiesAdvanced technology: infrared separation, material purity, and product transformationChallenges in complex material separation and maintaining high purity levelsThe future of circular footwear design and industry movementSimple ways for consumers to participate in shoe recycling programsSneaker Impact’s vision for a future where shoes are designed for end-of-lifeTimestamp 00:00 - Introduction to circular economy in footwear 00:17 - The importance of designing shoes for end-of-life and current industry movements 00:43 - The environmental footprint of sneaker waste globally 02:05 - The social impact of reusing sneakers in developing countries 04:21 - Using AI and advanced sorting to manage sneaker recycling 06:13 - The collection and accountability process for used shoes 08:04 - Pathways for reused shoes and micro-entrepreneurship opportunities 10:59 - Handling shoes at end-of-life with material separation and recycling 12:52 - Innovative use of infrared technology for polymer separation 14:35 - Transforming recycled materials into new footwear components 16:34 - Challenges with material contamination and achieving high purity levels 22:16 - How consumers can easily participate in sneaker recycling 24:37 - Industry progress toward circular design and future initiatives 28:07 - New product development: sandals, yoga mats, and more from recycled polymers 29:45 - Advice for runners: extending shoe life and responsible disposalResources & Links:Sneaker Impact Official WebsiteUniversity of Miami CollaborationFederation of the Footwear Industry (FDRA)

    32 min
  4. The Science of Running: Greg Macmillan on Personalized Training

    7 MAR

    The Science of Running: Greg Macmillan on Personalized Training

    In this episode of What Runs a Run, host Kamal Datta chats with renowned distance coach Greg Macmillan. They discuss Greg's journey from a young runner in rural Tennessee to becoming a leading coach and creator of the Macmillan running calculator. The conversation covers essential coaching philosophies, including the importance of understanding individual runner needs, the concept of 'experiment of one', and strategies for different levels of runners from beginners to elites. Greg emphasizes the significance of listening to one's body, the role of technology in coaching, and the mental aspects of training. The episode concludes with a rapid-fire round, where Greg shares insights on various coaching topics. Key takeaways Start where you are and build gradually.Listening to your body is crucial to avoid injuries.Excessive soreness is a sign to back off.A good mobility program can prevent injuries.The talk test is a simple way to gauge effort.Run-walk strategies can help beginners.Intermediate runners often hit plateaus due to repetitive training.The four pillars of performance are essential for success.Lactate threshold training is key for performance improvement.Prehab is critical for injury prevention. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Greg Macmillan 03:58 The Golden Rule of Running 06:08 Understanding the Experiment of One 07:38 Challenges for New Runners 11:27 Key Indicators for Beginners 12:47 The Talk Test and Strategic Walking 15:35 Breaking Through Plateaus for Intermediate Runners 17:50 The Four Pillars of Performance 18:36 Lactate Threshold and Its Importance 20:28 The Concept of Prehab 22:10 Insights for Elite Runners 24:25 Optimizing Performance Through Nutrition and Recovery 25:39 The Fast Finish Long Run: A Game Changer 30:43 Listening to Your Body: The Key to Injury Prevention 33:15 The Evolution of Coaching: From Faxes to AI 35:25 Navigating Technology: Data Overload in Running 39:54 The Future of Coaching: AI vs Human Insight Reference (s): McMillan Running Website https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/

    45 min
  5. Running Towards Sustainability: The London Marathon's Green Initiatives

    1 MAR

    Running Towards Sustainability: The London Marathon's Green Initiatives

    In this episode of the What Runs Around podcast, host Kamal Datta chats with Kate Chapman, the head of sustainability at London Marathon Events. With over 20 years of experience in environmental initiatives, Kate discusses her journey from the marine environmental sector to leading sustainability efforts for major sporting events, including the London Olympics. She emphasizes the pressing waste problem in sports and the ambitious goal of achieving net zero emissions by 2030 for the London Marathon, a target that was moved up from 2040 based on a commitment to environmental responsibility. Kate elaborates on various sustainability initiatives being implemented at the London Marathon, such as encouraging participants to opt-out of traditional finishers' t-shirts in favor of tree planting, introducing a carbon levy for international runners, and promoting the use of reusable hydration systems. She also highlights the importance of reducing waste generated during the event, including innovative solutions like using hydro-treated vegetable oil for generators and partnering with the Salvation Army to manage clothing waste. The conversation wraps up with Kate's vision for the future of sustainable running events, emphasizing the need for collective action and innovative practices to minimize environmental impact. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sustainability in Sports 03:13 Kate's Journey in Environmental Initiatives 05:08 Ambitious Net Zero Goals for London Marathon 06:56 Sustainability Initiatives at the London Marathon 11:35 Carbon Levy and International Participants 12:31 Understanding Carbon Removal vs. Offsetting 16:22 Measuring Carbon Footprint of Participants 18:12 Waste Reduction and Circular Economy Initiatives 21:01 Spectator Waste Challenges 21:57 Innovative Fuel Solutions 22:53 Recycling Urine into Fertilizer 25:14 Clothing Waste Management 28:14 Future of Sustainability in Marathons 31:40 Sharing the Sustainability Playbook Reference (s): Sustainability Initiatives at London Marathon - https://www.londonmarathonevents.co.uk/london-marathon/environmentImpact of sustainability initiatives at London Marathon - https://impact.londonmarathongroup.org/

    38 min
  6. Data, Dirt, and Distance – Deciphering the Carbon Footprint of Running

    23 FEB

    Data, Dirt, and Distance – Deciphering the Carbon Footprint of Running

    In this episode, host Kamal Datta sits down with Dr. Brian McCullough, Associate Professor and Director of the Center for Sport & Sustainability at the University of Michigan and explores explores the environmental impact of events, particularly focusing on the different scopes of emissions (Scope 1, 2, and 3) and the challenges associated with data collection and reporting. The speakers discuss how events, especially those held outdoors, can have varying impacts based on participant numbers and the limitations of available data. Key takeaways: Events are concentrated on one weekend or a week. Scope 3 emissions are significantly high for events.Data collection for events can be inconsistent.Comparisons per participant have limitations.Some data may not be precise or complete.Understanding Scope 1 and Scope 2 impacts is crucial.Outdoor events may have different environmental impacts.Reporting on emissions varies by organization.Gray data presents challenges in analysis.Accurate data is essential for sustainability efforts. Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sport Ecology and Sustainability 04:12 The Evolution of Sport Ecology Research 06:49 Frameworks for Measuring Sustainability in Events 09:36 Understanding Carbon Emissions in Sporting Events 12:31 Data Quality and Challenges in Emission Calculations 15:28 The Role of Travel in Scope 3 Emissions 18:20 Improving Data Accuracy and Methodologies 21:12 Future Directions in Sport Ecology Research 25:40 Recommendations for Race Organizers 29:57 The Importance of Reduction Over Offsetting 35:40 Understanding the Sustainable Runner 42:31 Future of Marathons and Sustainability 48:28 Measuring the Impact of Supporters References: Brian's University of Michigan profile - https://experts.umich.edu/13067-brian-mcculloughResearch paper published by Brian - https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/15/19/14375Council for responsible sport - https://www.councilforresponsiblesport.org/

    48 min
  7. Running for Mental Health: with Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run

    26 JAN

    Running for Mental Health: with Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run

    In this conversation, Sasha, the founder of Still I Run, shares her journey of establishing a nonprofit focused on mental health awareness through running. She discusses the various programs offered by Still I Run, the impact of the pandemic on mental health, and effective fundraising strategies. Sasha emphasizes the importance of community and personal connection in fundraising efforts, as well as the significance of partnerships with major races to further the mission of promoting mental health awareness. Key takeaways: - Sasha founded Still I Run after her own struggles with mental health. - Running can be a powerful tool for mental health recovery. - Community support is crucial for individuals dealing with mental health issues. - The organization has various programs to support runners and raise awareness. - Team Still I Run participates in major races to promote mental health. - The pandemic increased interest in mental health and running. - Personal stories resonate well in fundraising efforts. - Text messaging is an effective way to solicit donations. - Building partnerships with local races can lead to larger opportunities. - Sasha encourages other charities to reach out for support and guidance Chapters 00:00 Founding Still I Run: A Journey of Healing 02:46 Programs and Initiatives for Mental Health 05:59 Team Still I Run: Charity Partnerships and Major Races 09:13 Personal Connections: Stories Behind the Runners 11:58 Impact of the Pandemic on Mental Health Awareness 15:13 Fundraising Strategies: What Works and What Doesn't 18:01 Effective Communication for Fundraising 20:49 Building Partnerships with Races: Tips for Success Reference: - https://www.stillirun.org/

    22 min

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Welcome to What Runs a Run podcast where we are exploring the ecosystem that fuels the runners, running communities, organizers and everything in between. This podcast is broken down into mini series diving deep into a specific theme, for example in Tech in 26.2 we chat with entrepreneurs and professionals at the forefront of innovation supporting runners and the running events. If you are a curious athlete, we believe you will enjoy this podcast. Thanks for listening!!