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Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams from Discourse in Magic tackle magic's hardest issues, theories, philosophies, discussion, and more to help you explore.



We jump into all sorts of resources and most importantly actionable tips to help better the art and become a killer performer!

Discourse in Magi‪c‬ Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams

    • Performing Arts
    • 5.0 • 32 Ratings

Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams from Discourse in Magic tackle magic's hardest issues, theories, philosophies, discussion, and more to help you explore.



We jump into all sorts of resources and most importantly actionable tips to help better the art and become a killer performer!

    Throwing Away Your Stock Lines with Ryan Kane

    Throwing Away Your Stock Lines with Ryan Kane

    Jonah is joined by Ryan Kane, author of “Out of Stock: A Magician's Guide to Writing Your Own Lines”, where they talk about the importance of writing your own lines when performing your magic

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Magic Appetizer: Unconventional 2: Magicland

    Magic Appetizer: Unconventional 2: Magicland

    Today Jonah tells you about Unconventional.fun 2: Magicland. He’ll explain to you what this is, how it came to be, and then give you six reasons why this may be something that you want to be a part of. 

    • 15 min
    Finding The Magic Formula with Ben Seidman

    Finding The Magic Formula with Ben Seidman

    Jonah is joined by Ben Seidman to talk about working as a consultant on Mindfreak, appearing on Fool Us, and learning how to throw out everything you’ve heard when designing your own show.

    • 2 hrs 11 min
    A New Mission For The Toronto Magic Company

    A New Mission For The Toronto Magic Company

    Jonah is joined by Ben Train, his Toronto Magic Company business partner, to offer up a glimpse of what life is like at the Toronto Magic Company, how it’s adapted to the world of virtual magic, upcoming events they’re hosting, and the lessons that he and Ben have learned after almost a full year of pivoting to the virtual.  

    • 42 min
    Living the Magic Dream with Mat Franco

    Living the Magic Dream with Mat Franco

    Jonah is joined by Mat Franco where they get to discuss his dominating performance on America's Got Talent, opening up a For-Real-Life show in Vegas, and knowing from an early age that Mat was destined to live his dream as a magician.

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Appetizer #23: The Three Systems You Need For Your Virtual Magic Business

    Appetizer #23: The Three Systems You Need For Your Virtual Magic Business

    The are the three systems that every virtual magician needs in their business.

    • 8 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
32 Ratings

32 Ratings

matthew.ao ,

Phenomenal Podcast for Magicians

I met Jonah a couple years ago while I was still in high school. He was a staff member of this leadership conference I attended, and probably the first magician I met in real life! He inspired me greatly with his wit, wisdom, and how personable he was. Fast forward to today, I’m still gleaning nuggets of wisdom from his fantastic podcast and using it to improve my craft. Highly recommended podcast for anyone who loves performing magic.

Pet Detective10 ,

Inspiring Show

A great source of information and inspiration for anyone looking to build their magic career.

Aralakh ,

Mind blown

Fantastic resource for magicians at any stage. I’ve been listening for quite some time now since I got recommended this show. Wasn’t until I listened to the Manuel Llaser episode that my mind got completely blown - practical applications and mindset shifts all in one phenomenal episode, it was pure fire 🔥. And it’s really a testament to Jonah for being able to hold the space for his guests. Thanks for doing what your doing Jonah, I look forward to our paths to crossing eventually as I make my way on this magical journey. Gratitude from Alberta 🙏🏽.

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