Food Empires

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Behind the scenes with the recipe influencers you love. An interview series that breaks down how the top creators in food uild their audience and business beyond the highlight reel. Each guest shares the real playbook: the experiments, routines, mindset shifts, and monetization choices that got them from “a few steps behind” to massive reach.

  1. She Spends $2M/Month on Creator Campaigns. Here's What She Looks For.

    EPISODE 3

    She Spends $2M/Month on Creator Campaigns. Here's What She Looks For.

    Grow Traffic, Capture Emails + Sell More Stuff: grocerslist.com In this episode, Ben Jabbawy sits down with Erica Eckman, founder and CEO of Ecko, one of the leading creator marketing agencies in food and CPG, and co-founder of FlavCity, the fast-growing wellness brand now sold nationwide at Target.Erica shares how she went from food creator to agency founder to CPG operator, and breaks down what actually makes creator marketing work today. From story-view benchmarks and pricing frameworks to retail awareness and DTC performance, this episode is a masterclass in how modern food brands can use creators to drive measurable growth. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why story views matter more than follower count when evaluating creator influenceThe benchmark Erica uses for creators, and why 10% story reach is her minimum thresholdHow brands should think about ROAS, CPM, CAC, and LTV across DTC and retail campaignsA practical way creators can price partnerships based on performanceHow Flavor City launched from creator demand and scaled into national retail at TargetWhy the most effective creators are often the most raw, real, and impossible to replicateHow Echo balances brand KPIs with securing top rates for creator talent Guest: Erica Eckman — Founder & CEO of Echo, Co-Founder of Flavor City Instagram: @everythingerica LinkedIn: Erica Eckman If you’re building a food brand, scaling a creator business, or trying to understand how influencer marketing really converts, this episode offers a clear framework for creator-led growth in modern CPG.

    35 min
  2. She Beat a Michelin Chef on Guy's Grocery Games

    EPISODE 4

    She Beat a Michelin Chef on Guy's Grocery Games

    Grow Traffic, Capture Emails + Sell More Stuff: https://grocerslist.com In this episode of Food Empire, I sit down with MacKenzie Smith, the creator behind Grilled Cheese Social, to break down how she turned a simple grilled cheese blog into a full-fledged food creator business. McKenzie shares the story behind starting her blog while studying counseling psychology at Columbia, when she realized the career path she was on didn’t feel right. What began as a creative outlet built around grilled cheese recipes eventually evolved into a thriving brand powered by SEO, social media, brand partnerships, ad revenue, and Food Network appearances. We also dive into the pivotal moments that shaped her journey — from losing her uncle, who first inspired her love for cooking, to unexpectedly landing on Guy’s Grocery Games and beating Michelin-trained chefs in a competition that completely changed how she saw herself as a chef. Today, Grilled Cheese Social has grown into a multi-platform food brand with thousands of recipes, major brand collaborations, cookbooks, and a highly engaged audience across social media and her website. In this episode, we break down: How McKenzie turned a niche grilled cheese blog into a real business What winning Guy’s Grocery Games did for her confidence as a creator How food bloggers actually monetize their audience McKenzie Smith is a cookbook author, Food Network champion, food stylist, and the founder of Grilled Cheese Social, a platform dedicated to approachable comfort food and creative recipes that anyone can cook at home. If you're building a food brand, recipe platform, or creator business, this episode is packed with lessons on turning content into a sustainable career. McKenzie Smith https://www.instagram.com/grilledcheesesocial/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/mackenzie-smith-38285832/

    49 min

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Behind the scenes with the recipe influencers you love. An interview series that breaks down how the top creators in food uild their audience and business beyond the highlight reel. Each guest shares the real playbook: the experiments, routines, mindset shifts, and monetization choices that got them from “a few steps behind” to massive reach.

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