Future Around & Find Out

Dan Blumberg

You know what would be awesome? If we could build the future we want — before we muck it up. Future Around & Find Out helps builders think clearly about AI and emerging technologies, grapple with the implications, and decide what to build next. Independent technologist and former NPR journalist Dan Blumberg speaks with founders, makers, and you to celebrate breakthroughs, call BS on the hype, explore how things might go sideways — and how we can steer the future in the right direction. The Webby Awards have honored the show (formerly known as CRAFTED.) as a top tech podcast three years in a row! On Tuesdays, we feature interviews with the builders changing how we work, live, and play. On FAFO Fridays, futurist Kwaku Aning joins Dan for a playful recap of the week in tech, including the amazing, the scary, and the strange. You’ll also hear about innovations that too often get overshadowed by AI, including in deep tech, biotech, fintech, quantum computing, robotics, blockchain, and more. Across it all, you’ll hear sharp takes on what comes next and what builders need to know now. So let’s Future Around & Find Out together! https://www.FutureAround.com

  1. 1D AGO

    We're a Webby nominee for Best Tech Podcast! Please vote! And here are the FAFO highlights the Webby's loved so much

    Hey everyone... so, in case you haven't heard... this show, Future Around & Find Out, has been nominated for a Webby for best tech podcast!  *** VOTE HERE: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/technology *** I was kind of being chill about this. I am, admittedly, not my own best hype man, but then I got riled up when I heard the hosts of The Vergecast, one of the other nominees and last year's winner, complain that they weren't winning by enough votes and that they wanted to win by such a large margin that it -- quote -- hurts everyone's feelings.  Well, those are my feelings Nilay Patel was talking about!  Look, I like the Verge -- and I definitely didn't have them on my list of people I might feud with this years -- but f* those guys! Let's win this thing! So could you please vote? Today, April 16th is the last day to do so and we're currently just behind, in second place. The link to vote is in the show notes. You can also find it on the show's website at Future Around dot com And what is it you're voting for? Well, if you've been listening then you already know what this show is all about, but I also thought for newbies and even for long time listeners, it might be fun for you to hear exactly what the Webby judges listened to when they voted for FAFO to be a best tech podcast nominee. They ask for ten minutes of audio, so I made a highlight reel — and here it is. *** VOTE HERE: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/technology ***

    11 min
  2. We Need Inventors. And Inventors Need Us. Pablos Holman on Finding and Backing Zero to One Builders

    4D AGO

    We Need Inventors. And Inventors Need Us. Pablos Holman on Finding and Backing Zero to One Builders

    We live in a world where every crisis lands in your pocket the moment it happens. The result? We're more informed than ever — and somehow less capable of doing anything about it. Inventor and investor Pablos Holman has a diagnosis: we're spreading ourselves across every problem, which means we're solving none of them. His prescription is uncomfortable — pick one thing, go all in, and cut the noise. ***QUICK PLUG: Future Around & Find Out is nominated for a Webby for best tech podcast! Voting is open now for the People's Choice Award. Please vote before April 16th! https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/technology*** Pablos is the co-founder of Deep Futures, where he hunts for inventors tackling world-scale problems: energy, water, food, waste, transportation. Not apps. Atoms. And thanks to advances in AI and software, these "impossible" problems are more solvable than ever — if the right people show up to back them. In this conversation, recorded at the fabulous PopTech conference, he makes the case that inventors are the most important creative class on earth — and the most invisible. They're undersupported, uncelebrated, and working alone in garages. Some of them are probably going to blow themselves up. Those are exactly the people he's looking for. We get into: Why doomscrolling is literally eroding your ability to make a differenceThe difference between craft (optimization) and creation (zero-to-one) — and why AI is great at one and struggling with the otherWhy you can name 100 musicians but fewer than two living inventorsHow solving energy unlocks clean water, sanitation, and climate — essentially for freeWhy software people are uniquely positioned to work on the hardest problems in the world right nowChapters: (01:15) - Why the world isn't as broken as your newsfeed makes it seem (03:00) - The sticky note exercise: how to pick the one problem worth your time (04:30) - Inventors are the most important creative class nobody talks about (07:00) - Living inventors you should actually know (09:00) - What AI is good at — and what it still can't do (12:30) - Why software people are the right ones to tackle deep tech problems (22:56) - Energy is the root problem — solve it and you solve a lot else (25:56) - Climate change needs a thousand solutions, not one big fix (28:26) - The fashion industry's dirty secret and what robots can do about it Links & ResourcesPablos Holman on LinkedInDeep Future: VC firm, book, and podcastSupport Future Around & Find Out FAFO is nominated for a Webby for best tech podcast! Vote now! Get the free newsletterAnd consider becoming a paid subscriber and help future proof this thing!Sponsor the show?  Are you looking to reach an audience of senior technologists and decision-makers? Email me: dan@futurearound.com--- Pablos's first appearance on the show covers his work at Blue Origin and Intellectual Ventures. Scroll in your podcast app to July 2025 to find that fun conversation. (Can listen before or after this one; not a prerequisite.)

    32 min
  3. APR 7

    Trust Is All That's Left: How AI Scrambles the Creator Economy | Jim Louderback Live from SXSW

    Future Around & Find Out is a best technology podcast nominee! And with your help it could be a winner. The Webby Awards voting is open now. Please vote for FAFO! Thanks to AI, “content is about to become infinite.” And just like the Internet disrupted distribution, AI is disrupting creation. And so when anyone, anywhere can create content, what’s left? What’s defensible? That would be trust and humanity.  Live from Podcast Movement Evolutions at SXSW, I sit down with Jim Louderback — former VidCon CEO, Inside the Creator Economy newsletter writer, and media veteran — to unpack what's actually changing and what builders and creators should do about it. We get into why the "age of perfection" is over, why founders need a meme instead of an elevator pitch, and why putting a creator on your cap table might be the smartest move a startup can make. Jim makes the case for a trust economy where views and likes are meaningless — and where the real question is how far your trust graph extends. We also talk digital twins (and what happens when yours goes rogue), why events are still the best way to prove you're human, the state of journalism and public media, and why 2004’s “Subservient Chicken” was so ahead of its time. Chapters: (01:30) - How AI disrupts creation (03:50) - The number of creators is about to double to 500 million (06:45) - We’ll have “certified human” labels, just like “organic” and why the Subservient Chicken was so far ahead of its time (08:40) - The age of perfection is over (10:00) - The only thing that matters is trust (12:00) - Events, FTW! (13:45) - The elements of a great event are timeless (18:11) - Favorite moments from SXSW (21:56) - What’s your meme? > What’s your elevator pitch? (23:28) - Put a creator on the cap table (27:21) - Creator-community fit (29:38) - The challenges of being a journalist today (32:26) - Create your own digital twin (36:26) - Why John Green’s jaw dropped when he learned of Dan’s grandma ---Future Around & Find OutVote for FAFO to be a Webby Awards winner!Get the newsletter Sponsor the show? Want to share your message with senior technologists? Email Dan: dan@futurearound.com

    39 min
  4. APR 3

    The Fart App Era of AI Is Over. Now What? | FAFO Friday Vibes From SXSW Rooftop With Rob Kenedi

    Very fun news… The Webby Awards have just nominated Future Around & Find Out as a nominee for Best Technology Podcast!!! And you can help make it a Popular Choice winner. Winning would be great for the growth of show. Thank you! Please vote for FAFO!  ---OK, on to today’s episode… it’s another good vibes rooftop episode recorded at SXSW.  For the second year in a row I’m joined by Rob Kenedi, a fellow podcaster, who is the founder and host of Decelerator.  Last year he, very memorably, said we were in the “fart app era of AI”. Meaning: people are trying stuff (a la the make-a-fart-sound apps that people built in the early days of the iPhone). So, we revisit that comment and ask where are we now? And what’s defensible for app makers — and for creators like us? Podcaster that he is, Rob turns the tables on me and asks me a bunch of questions about how I’m approaching this question and I shared what was top of mind when I rebranded the show recently from CRAFTED. to Future Around & Find Out. Namely, I wanted to give the show more personality, but that is how you stand out right now and that’s what going to be defensible in the age of AI.  And the Webby nomination — you already voted, right?? — only makes me feel more confident in the rebrand and the addition of more of these casual “FAFO Friday” episodes that feature a lot more of my (and regular guest Kwaku Aning’s) personality.  (You’ll hear more about how AI is changing the creator economy and why “being human” is so important in a few days when my episode with Jim Louderback, writer of Inside the Creator Economy, comes out; he gives a great annual talk at SXSW and I had seen it the day before recording with Rob.) In the meantime, come join Rob and me for some good vibes from Austin…  And (ask your friends to) vote: https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2026/podcasts/shows/technology

    35 min
  5. Cooling Earth with everything from mushroom bacon to giant sky parasols | Eben Bayer (climate-tech founder)

    MAR 31

    Cooling Earth with everything from mushroom bacon to giant sky parasols | Eben Bayer (climate-tech founder)

    Climate-tech founder Eben Bayer is on a mission to protect Spaceship Earth. And he says it's time for climate control, i.e. active measure that cool the Earth. Why? " Because all other reasonable approaches have failed miserably," he says, slapping the table for emphasis. Eben is the co-founder of Ecovative and MyForest Foods, the makers of MyBacon, which is sold in more than three thousand stores. It’s a non-meat bacon, made from mycelium, which (more or less) means mushrooms roots. Fewer people eating meat —> fewer farting animals —> a cooler planet.  And Eben's latest Earth-cooling idea is (nearly) out of this world. Eben wants to put giant parasols in the stratosphere where they could block sunlight from reaching Earth. With "shade-as-a-service" a maxed-out utility (say in Phoenix) could pay for shade to cool a city or an individual could pinpoint a shadow over their backyard for an afternoon barbecue. The idea is in its early stages, but Eben says it's feasible and it's the kind of big idea we need to get climate change under control. And while the idea of messing with the sun may sound scary, he says we alter the climate in all sorts of ways already: " We are geo-engineers. We farm animal livestock. We live on Planet Earth. We have impact. We emit CO2. We should not limit ourselves to modifying just one or two atmospheric gases to modify the planet. It's not how we operate, and it's an unbelievably constraining framing if you actually want to address this problem in a practical manner... When you start to take that frame, the options open way up." Eben is a fascinating guy — very steampunk in his approach to entrepreneurship — and I'm sure you'll find this interview eye-opening. And a special shout out to my field producer for this onsite recording from Troy, NY: my eleven-year old son, Julian! He was my camera and sound guy and he also makes his long-awaited (YouTube!) debut to ask Eben a question about protecting Spaceship Earth. 🤩 Thanks also to PopTech, the amazing tech conference where I first met Eben, and where he became a fellow more than a decade ago as he was just scaling up. Support Future Around & Find Out Follow Dan on LinkedInGet the free Future Around & Find Out newsletterBecome a paid subscriber and help future proof the podcast!Sponsor the show?  Are you looking to reach an audience of senior technologists and decision-makers? Email me: dan@futurearound.com---Music by Jonathan Zalben

    36 min
  6. MAR 28

    Melania's Humanoid Guest, Robot Teachers, and What We Lose When Learning Is "Instant"

    “Imagine a humanoid educator named “Plato”… Access to the classical studies is now instantaneous: literature, science, art, philosophy, mathematics, and history. Humanity’s entire corpus of information is available in the comfort of your home.”— Melania Trump, Futurist Ah, yes, I can’t wait for my children to learn from an embodied AI. And that their access to everything be “instantaneous.” No struggle. No unreliable (fleshy) teachers. Just an embodied AI stuffed with the “entire corpus of information.” What an inspiring vision! Regular listeners to Future Around & Find Out will know that I’m a fan of robots (think: self-driving cars), but really don’t understand why they need arms and legs (whether dog- or human-shaped).  Well, as you may have seen our fever dream of AI with arms and legs reached the White House, with Melania and “Figure 3” competing to see which one could walk and talk more haltingly. (The robot was more engaging to listen to.)  The robot was there, along with a patronizing display of first spouses from around the world, for a summit on education technology. So Kwaku and I use it as a jumping off point for this week’s FAFO Friday (yes, delivered on a Saturday) this week.  Kwaku, a tech consultant to many schools, and I discuss this insatiable need for humanoid robots, AI, and instant gratification. And, following up on my conversation earlier this week with Khan Academy’s Chief Learning Officer, Kristin DiCerbo, we discuss what counts as a “productive struggle” and what’s wasted effort when it comes to AI and learning.  Please enjoy this very human conversation… full of totally unnecessary tangents, riffs, asides, non-sequiturs, and other detours that Plato, the humanoid teacher, would find inefficient and useless. 🙂 ---Subscribe to the Future Around & Find Out newsletter: https://www.futurearound.com

    34 min
  7. What should kids study? How should AI help? Khan Academy's learning chief on productive struggle

    MAR 24

    What should kids study? How should AI help? Khan Academy's learning chief on productive struggle

    So what the heck should kids be studying today!? That's my opening question to Khan Academy's Chief Learning Officer, Kristen DiCerbo, a learning and AI expert who is back for her second appearance on the show.  We discuss: Kristen's advice for what to study today: fundamentals, AI literacy, and critical thinkingHow helpful should AI be? Why the productive struggle is critical to learning, but also why we shouldn't "fetishize" struggleWhen should AI be Socratic — "and why do you think that?" — and when should it just give you the answer?The "5% problem" — why edtech that's proven to work still barely gets usedHow Khan Academy overhauled its classroom platform and evolved Khanmigo from a standalone chatbot into something woven into the whole learning experiencePersonalization that actually works How Khan Academy uses LLMs as judges to evaluate 20,000 student interactions a dayThe scenario planning report that imagines deepfakes of school principals and AI going underground in schoolsWhat parents should be asking their kids' schools about AI right nowWhat it looks like when a school implements AI well — and what it looks like when they don'tChapters: (01:44) - What the heck should kids be studying right now? (03:55) - Teaching critical thinking in the age of AI (06:37) - What successful schools are doing differently (08:37) - The real risk: not that kids use AI too much, but that they don't use it enough (10:52) - My 13-year-old has to check five apps just to find his homework (11:52) - "Beyond the AI inflection point" — three scenarios, none of them great (16:30) - Should we just make every school a trade school? (19:41) - What should parents be asking their kids' schools? (22:27) - Khan Academy's Winchester Mystery House problem (26:28) - Personalized learning — what works and what surprisingly doesn't (29:32) - Kids are bad at asking questions and that's actually the point (32:01) - "I DON'T KNOW" in all capital letters — the Socratic method's breaking point (34:26) - Should an AI tutor give tough love? (37:01) - Why Khanmigo is fundamentally different from ChatGPT (40:11) - Don't fetishize struggle — but your kid still needs it (42:39) - Khan Academy's productive struggle: building evals from scratch (45:41) - What gives Kristen optimism Support Future Around & Find OutFollow Dan on LinkedInGet the free Future Around & Find Out newsletterBecome a paid subscriber and help future proof the podcast!Sponsor the show?  Are you looking to reach an audience of senior technologists and decision-makers? Email me: dan@futurearound.com---Music by Jonathan Zalben

    47 min

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You know what would be awesome? If we could build the future we want — before we muck it up. Future Around & Find Out helps builders think clearly about AI and emerging technologies, grapple with the implications, and decide what to build next. Independent technologist and former NPR journalist Dan Blumberg speaks with founders, makers, and you to celebrate breakthroughs, call BS on the hype, explore how things might go sideways — and how we can steer the future in the right direction. The Webby Awards have honored the show (formerly known as CRAFTED.) as a top tech podcast three years in a row! On Tuesdays, we feature interviews with the builders changing how we work, live, and play. On FAFO Fridays, futurist Kwaku Aning joins Dan for a playful recap of the week in tech, including the amazing, the scary, and the strange. You’ll also hear about innovations that too often get overshadowed by AI, including in deep tech, biotech, fintech, quantum computing, robotics, blockchain, and more. Across it all, you’ll hear sharp takes on what comes next and what builders need to know now. So let’s Future Around & Find Out together! https://www.FutureAround.com

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