The Dock School Leader Podcast

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Talks to inspire and equip Anabaptist school leaders.

  1. 3D AGO

    How to Build Rapport and Why It Matters (Glendon Strickler)

    Drop us a question for our special, upcoming Q & R   We have different strengths and emphases as educators but probably none of us would deny the critical importance of having strong relationships with our students. Glendon Strickler brings a wealth of experience to this topic and conveys the mindset, some of the methods, and a illuminating stories of how he approaches student relationships. Glendon has taught and administrated at several schools including Ephrata Mennonite School and Faith Builders Christian School. A key word here is rapport. Building a positive rapport is one of the most important things a teacher can do. Glendon argues that it looks like putting excellence and competence over likableness, leveraging the fact that students unconsciously imitate people that they like, ensure safety for all students, and patiently angling for loving influence. How do you earn rapport? Breaking the ice, wielding the rubber sword of humor, opening the door to connecting with students—hear Glendon reflect on how these and more have enabled powerful relationships with students. Glendon also works to develop our understanding our generation of students by considering the impact of individualism, the generation of “me,” the priority of feelings over truth. He reminds us that: “Rules without relationship leads to rebellion.” But Glendon argues that in this climate Jesus doesn’t need to be modernized. Instead, what modern people need is spiritual mentors that bring Jesus to life. Living, breathing examples that put flesh on cold concepts and life into ideas. There’s no replacement for experience, making a bunch of mistakes, and humbly learning from them. Next time you bump into a teacher you admire, ask them how they connect with student or how they wield humor in their teaching. Bring this up with your staff. Talk about mistakes you’ve made. Think together about how to build rapport. Keep listening for a bit of bonus content on a few more tools in Glendon’s toolbox.   Links Contact us: https://thedockforlearning.org/contact-us/ 3-minute feedback: https://forms.office.com/r/1G564EGQkn [book] The Last Christian Generation by Josh McDowell: https://a.co/d/bdYEiZe [book] Already Gone by Ken Ham and Britt Beemer with Todd Hillard: https://a.co/d/2BDJwgs Airzooka: https://www.flinnsci.com/airzooka/ap6657/#variantDetails

    50 min
  2. JAN 22

    What Are You Showing Them? (Stephen Gingerich)

    You can say it in different ways, but a Christian school isn’t worth the time and effort it takes unless it’s helping form disciples of Jesus. That doesn’t mean you’re practicing child evangelism or replacing the essential work of the church. It does mean that we are partnering with our churches and families and that we as school leaders and teachers are fully devoted to following Jesus ourselves. Like Stephen says, we should think of ourselves as wearing signs that say, “Follow me.” This is a call to evaluate and refocus our personal vision and witness in our relationships around schools that most definitely shape our teaching and our students.   Stephan Gingerich has been on this show before and brings a range of experience in teaching and school leadership, some of which he gained while growing up and teaching in Central America. He brings refreshing perspective and challenges us in this talk to be concerned with what’s beyond our school fences.   Stephen invites us to ponder with him. Great opportunities are often disguised as problems. Perhaps we witness the most when we don’t know that people are watching us. How can our schools bring light to the world? What does the Sermon on the Mount have to say about Christ-like community relations? What are practical ways you can connect with your community?   Links Contact us: https://thedockforlearning.org/contact-us/ 3-minute feedback: https://forms.office.com/r/1G564EGQkn

    48 min
  3. JAN 8

    Is Your School Swimming or Floating? (Steven Brubaker)

    “Genuinely Christian schools will not always fit what everyone else is doing in education. We need to give ourselves permission to go against the flow.” But it’s not sufficient to seek difficulty and resistance. We need a goal. A mission. A burning love. A beautiful vision. As Steven emphasizes in today’s episode, “Nonconformity is not enough. We need something to be conformed to. And for us, that something is a Someone.”   Educational orthodoxy. What is it and how does it impact us? You’ll hear about this in today’s episode, but basically, it’s the body of assumptions and principles that unify the majority of educational efforts around us. This orthodoxy shapes the way we describe a well-trained person and the educational experiences we dream of offering. Steven Brubaker, speaking from a long history in teaching and school leadership submits that the educational orthodoxy in north America is inadequate as a source of guidance for our schools and maybe even dangerously misguided. But we will need a solid basis for doing something different, for swimming against the current. “Every nonconformity is a conformity to something,” Steven reminds us. Every resistance is a defense of something. What’s worth defending? Worth conforming to? Drawing penetrating insights from the analogy of salmon, Steven lays out a challenge for Christian schools to identify and relentlessly pursue a worthy homing instinct.   What is a compelling and worthy final end for Christian education? The end beyond which we stop looking for some further fulfillment? Schools conformed to Jesus. How could you and your staff make a practice of asking and seeking, “Jesus, how do I teach in my school?” And what would your school look like if you then boldly followed his leadership?     Links Contact us: https://thedockforlearning.org/contact-us/ 3-minute feedback: https://forms.office.com/r/1G564EGQkn

    38 min
  4. 2025-12-23

    Stories with Jonas and Ken (Jonas Sauder and Ken Kauffman)

    It’s Christmas season and here on the Dock School Leader Podcast we’re running a special episode featuring a collection of stories chosen and read by two experienced educators that have appeared before on this show—Jonas Sauder and Ken Kauffman. Their selections range from fables to short stories to poems and all convey a timeless truth through the penetrating power of story. Take a break from the heavier content and enjoy these selections with us. What we read often sticks with us at a subconscious level. Stories have the power to embed their message deep within us. They shape our worldview and affect our actions even after we’ve forgotten the details. See below for the titles of the selections and the timestamps for each one. Perhaps you’ll find something here for an upcoming devotional or a story time with family over the holidays. [2:30] Wellspring of Wisdom – read by Jonas Sauder The free lunch The magic sticks Practical sympathy Community   [7:45] The King and the Seeds – read by Ken Kauffman [16:30] George Washington Carver – read by Jonas Sauder Selection from a biography Testimony in Congress   [25:00] Dear Mrs. O’Neil – read by Ken Kauffman [34:20] The Blind Man and the Elephant – read by Jonas Sauder [37:30] The Church Walking With the World – read by Ken Kauffman   Links Contact us: https://thedockforlearning.org/contact-us/ 3-minute feedback: https://forms.office.com/r/1G564EGQkn

    51 min
  5. 2025-12-09

    Why Teach Math?

    Why teach Math? John Swartz is ambitious here. Hear him connect the question of why he teaches math with the question of why he exists along with stories of Almanzo Wilder and his own experience. He brings teaching experience as well as specific training in mathematics. He’s worked in curriculum at Christian Light and also served as a minister for many years. In this episode, John quotes Larry Zimmerman who states that, “Christian teachers motivate their students to learn mathematics in two ways: first mathematics exhibits the glory of God, second mathematics equips students to care for the creation.” This comes from Zimmerman’s book, Truth and the Transcendent. John recognizes the utilitarian value of mathematics but is most interested in exploring the proposal  that, “Math is the language of the universe,” and that it is not a neutral subject. This talk provides a thought-provoking investigation of an underexamined subject that occupies quite a bit of space in all of our schools.   Links More recordings from CASBI 2013: https://thedockforlearning.org/series/casbi/casbi-2013/ This recording was first published as “Why Teach Math?” on The Dock: https://thedockforlearning.org/lecture/why-teach-math/ More information about Conservative Anabaptist School Board Institute: https://casbi.info/ Books When Are We Ever Going to Have to Use This? By Hal Saunders and Jill Marino: https://a.co/d/cBKrSfT Mathematics is God Silent? by J. Sire: https://a.co/d/56q16kb Truth and the Transcendent by Larry Zimmerman: https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/truth-transcendent/ Math Wonders to Inspire Teachers and Students by Alfred Posamentier: https://a.co/d/9v4c442 Fascinating Fibonaccis: Mystery and Magic in Numbers by Trudi H. Garland: https://a.co/d/c30zp0n

    27 min
  6. 2025-11-25

    Teacher Generated Problems

    What images or models are your teachers taking into their classrooms? How do they see themselves and their students? What is really driving them? Distorted images and motives can be difficult to identify but express themselves in all manner of persistent issues that do deep damage. Welcome to this episode where Anthony Hurst names a number of potential mindset problems, or areas of possible problems. He provides clarifying examples and concrete suggestions that will increase your perceptiveness about these mindsets and guide your response to problems. Anthony has experience as a teacher and school leader. What he explores here stems from his humility in learning from his own mistakes and allowing that to build his understanding of these mindsets. Why does this matter? The work you do to develop the self-awareness of your teachers and aid the formation of healthy mindsets will have more to do with long-range fruitfulness than the best policies and policing that you can provide. It’s the difference between joyful labor and desperate survival. The theme that runs through the talk is combatting disinterest, disrespect, and disorder in the classroom so that learning can be wholesome and fruitful for all involved. Content vs. student Teacher pets Strictness vs. leniency Inconsistency and mood swings Respecting the personhood of every student All work, no play Criticism vs. complements Unrealistic expectations   Winning students’ hearts Interest in their personal lives Passion for learning and for the subject Special projects Diversity of style   Model neatness Know your subject Plan your projects Follow a schedule   Links This recording was first published as “Teacher Generated Problems” on The Dock: https://thedockforlearning.org/lecture/teacher-generated-problems/ Other recordings from TW 2010: https://thedockforlearning.org/series/fbep-teachers-week/faith-builders-teachers-week-2010/

    45 min
  7. 2025-11-11

    Surviving the Scientific Battles

    Description How and why do we teach science in a time when for years we’ve been battling in the world of science trying to prove God’s existence? With what mindset do we approach the natural world? How are we seeing creation, and how does this shape the way we see the Creator? Rob Layne is quite interested in exploring some of what’s going on deep under the hood in science. In this episode, you’ll find some ideas for what to cover in science and how to teach it. You’ll also hear Rob attempting to describe what an Anabaptist approach to science might look like. He speaks from a background in education that includes teaching and working for Christian Light. Let me give you a little more context. Broadly speaking, Protestants and Anabaptists have somewhat divergent understandings of the relative importance of the hands and the head. On practice and reason. Rob highlights a problematic part of trusting too much in reason, in having things worked out in our heads compared to prioritizing a life of obedience and accepting a level of not understanding or having thorough reasoning for our practice. It almost goes without saying, but let’s not forget the reality that God did give us heads as well as hands, and there’s also a danger of giving too little time and attention to using our heads well. But back to the issues, where do we look for proofs of the Bible and God. Should we be looking to science? Do unanswered questions produce doubt? What do the examples of Christ and the Scriptures show us about the way God reveals Himself to the world? Maybe there’s something in the world of science for us to reclaim and revive.   Links This episode was first published on The Dock as “Why Teach Science?” https://thedockforlearning.org/lecture/why-teach-science/ More recordings from CASBI 2012: https://thedockforlearning.org/series/casbi/casbi-2012/

    31 min
  8. 2025-11-04

    Teacher Support Is Not Optional

    3 minutes of your time to answer 5 questions will help us to serve you better. https://forms.office.com/r/1G564EGQkn Description Does supporting your teachers look overwhelming to you? You’re not alone. Caring for and nurturing teachers is not easy. Each teacher represents many relationships and responsibilities. Your teacher’s jobs matter. And they matter every day. That’s why teaching is hard. And why it’s hard to care for teachers. There is no autopilot at school. Anthony Hurst, who is a school representative for Christian Light, addresses this reality with the experience of both a teacher and administrator. He also understands the perspective of a school board. There’s lots of combined talking to admin and school boards here. As you hear Anthony address school board members, ask yourself, “What is my place in cultivating a healthy principal to school board and staff to school board relationship?” In short, even for schools that have on-site principals or administrators, the presence of the school board is essential to providing a healthy support network for teachers. Teachers can’t do it alone. Administrators can’t do it alone. It takes all of us trying to understand each others’ perspectives and working together to welcome each others’ presence. This takes an inviting attitude, a strategic plan, and lots of patient dedication to make this happen. And Anthony has lots of ideas to get you started Take heart, and may this talk strengthen you for your good work.   Links   Links This recording was first published on The Dock as “Equipping and Supporting Your Teachers:” https://thedockforlearning.org/lecture/equipping-and-supporting-your-teachers/ More recordings from CASBI 2018: https://thedockforlearning.org/series/casbi/casbi-2018/ Episode 8: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/pkmyqvkteavwti3f/2024-12-03_Mixdownbby87.mp3 The Thread That Runs So True by Jesse Stuart: https://a.co/d/5EeEO4N The Seven Laws of the Learner by Bruce Wilkinson: https://a.co/d/j7mJBaW The Seven Laws of the Teacher by Howard G. Henricks: https://a.co/d/3HZi0uj

    43 min

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