The Optometry Money Podcast

Evon Mendrin CFP®, CSLP®

Welcome to the Optometry Money Podcast, hosted by Evon Mendrin CFP®, CSLP®, where he helps optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. He explores cold-starts, practice buy-ins, career decisions, tax planning, student loans, and other money issues ODs are navigating. Evon cold-started Optometry Wealth Advisors LLC, a financial planning firm dedicated to help optometrists nationwide master their money, build wealth, and plan purposefully with their finances. Learn more about the show, and Evon, at www.optometrywealth.com.

  1. How to Maximize Your Optometry Practice Value Before You Sell with Erich Mattei

    APR 24

    How to Maximize Your Optometry Practice Value Before You Sell with Erich Mattei

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. Whether you're five to ten years from exiting your optometry practice or just starting to think about it, the decisions you make right now have a major impact on what your practice is ultimately worth.  In this episode, Evon is joined by Erich Mattei of Akrinos — a returning guest who specializes in practice transitions and valuations — to break down the key levers practice owners should be focused on long before they're ready to sell. From profitability and expense benchmarks to payor mix, capital expenditure, and add-backs, this conversation gets into the mechanics of how fair market value is actually determined and what you can do to improve it. What You'll Learn How fair market value for an optometry practice is determinedThe two primary drivers of practice value: profitability and capital expenditureKey expense benchmarks for COGS, occupancy, non-doctor payroll, and general overheadWhy growing revenue matters — and why growing the right revenue matters even moreHow payor mix and cash pay percentage affect practice value and buyer negotiationWhat add-backs are and why minimizing seller discretionary spend before exit is criticalHow associate doctors and full-time equivalent coverage factor into valuationWhy outdated equipment can undermine an otherwise profitable practiceKey Takeaway The time to prepare your practice for sale is long before you're ready to sell. The ODs who get the most at exit are the ones who ran their businesses like a business — with clean financials, controlled expenses, growing revenue through the right channels, and a practice that a buyer can step into with confidence. Resources Erich Mattei / Akrinos: contact@akrinos.comAkrinos 360 Due Diligence Resource — reach out to Erich directly or contact Evon at podcast@optometrywealth.comAkrinos WebsitePodcast Ep 50: Guide to Due Diligence on Practice Purchases with Erich MatteiPodcast Ep 80: Intro to Optometry Practice Valuations with Erich MatteiWant a more proactive approach to your planning? You can schedule a no-commitment introductory call to discuss what's on your mind financially and learn how we help optometrists navigate those same decisions nationwide. 👉 Schedule an introductory call The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    1h 1m
  2. How to Stop Scrambling at Tax Time: An Optometrist's Guide to Quarterly Tax Payments

    APR 16

    How to Stop Scrambling at Tax Time: An Optometrist's Guide to Quarterly Tax Payments

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. It's tax day — and whether you're celebrating a finished return or still working through an extension, tax payments are on your mind. In this episode, we walk through a practical framework for planning your quarterly estimated tax payments so you're not scrambling, stressed, or surprised come tax time.  We cover the two ways ODs pay taxes through the year, IRS safe harbor targets to avoid underpayment penalties, and a simple system to automate the whole process so you stay ahead all year long. What You'll Learn The two ways ODs pay federal taxes through the year — payroll withholdings vs. quarterly estimated paymentsWhich payment method applies based on how you practice (W2, sole prop, S Corp)The three IRS safe harbor targets that protect you from underpayment penaltiesHow to calculate your quarterly payment amount step by stepHow to set up a dedicated tax savings account and automate depositsWhere quarterly tax payments fit in your practice's cash flow priority orderHow to adjust your payments as income changes through the yearThe importance of working proactively with your professionalsKey Takeaway The biggest tax payment headaches come from not having a system. Pick your safe harbor target, calculate your quarterly amount, automate deposits into a dedicated tax account, and adjust as you go. It's not glamorous — but it's how you move from reactive and stressed to in control. And keep in close contact with your financial and tax professionals to make sure you're making proactive decisions with tax payments and planning throughout the year! Resources & Links IRS Pay OnlineIRS Form 2210 — Underpayment of Estimated TaxSchedule a call with Optometry Wealth Advisors The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    21 min
  3. (Rewind) An Optometrist's Guide to Business Entities

    APR 1

    (Rewind) An Optometrist's Guide to Business Entities

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. In this replay of a popular 2023 episode, Evon revisits an important topic for optometry practice owners and independent contractors - the differences between different business entities! How do the different business entities work? How are they taxed? How are they different? In this episode, Evon provides optometrists a basic guide to the differences between: Sole ProprietorshipsPartnerships Limited Liability Companies (LLCs)S-CorporationsCorporationsIf you own an optometry practice or are an independent contractor, hopefully this episode brings some clarity around how the different types of businesses operate.  Have questions on anything discussed or want to have topics or questions featured on the show? Send Evon an email at evon@optometrywealth.com. Check out www.optometrywealth.com to get to know more about Evon, his financial planning firm Optometry Wealth Advisors, and how he helps optometrists nationwide. From there, you can schedule a short Intro call to share what's on your mind and learn how Evon helps ODs master their cash flow and debt, build their net worth, and plan purposefully around their money and their practices.  Resources mentioned on this episode: The Optometry Money Podcast Ep. 47: An Optometrist's Guide to How Income Taxes WorkIRS.Gov Reasonable Compensation for S Corporation OfficersIRS.Gov How to Apply for an EIN The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    35 min
  4. The Location-Independent OD: Compensation, Licensing & the Future of Remote Care with Crystal Edison, OD

    MAR 5

    The Location-Independent OD: Compensation, Licensing & the Future of Remote Care with Crystal Edison, OD

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. Remote optometry is growing fast - and there's quite a range of opinions on what that means for optometry. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Crystal Edison, a remote optometrist practicing across nine states from her home office, to break down the ins and outs of providing comprehensive remote care.  We cover contracts and compensation of remote ODs, how to navigate multi-state licensing, the technology involved, and Crystal addresses some of the most common myths about the quality and credibility of remote optometry. Whether you're a practice owner struggling to find associate coverage or an OD looking for more flexibility and independence, this one's worth a listen. What You'll Learn What comprehensive remote optometry actually looks like and how it differs from screening-only modelsHow remote ODs are compensated - W2 vs. 1099 roles and the financial trade-offs of eachKey contract negotiation considerations including malpractice coverage and reimbursementsHow to navigate multi-state licensing without a national compact (and tools like ARBO's CELMO that help)The technology investment needed on both the practice side and the remote OD sideHow practice owners can use remote staffing to fill empty chairs and reduce reliance on locumsCommon myths about remote care quality - and the clinical reality behind modern tele-optometryResources Mentioned Crystal Edison on LinkedInEdison Remote Strategies — Crystal's course, The Remote OD BlueprintCrystal's Independent Strong article - Tele-optometry for Owners and AssociatesCELMO through ARBO — Council on Endorsement Licensure Mobility for OptometristsPodcast Ep. 2: Financial and Tax Planning for 1099 OptometristsPodcast Ep. 51: An Optometrist's Guide to the QBI DeductionPodcast Ep. 66: Retirement Plan Options for Independent Contractor OptometristsWant a more proactive approach to your planning? You can schedule a no-commitment introductory call to discuss what's on your mind financially and learn how we help optometrists navigate those same decisions nationwide. 👉 Schedule an introductory call The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    46 min
  5. Listener Q&A #2: S Corp Salary, How Much Practice Cash to Keep, Buying Practice Real Estate, and More

    FEB 27

    Listener Q&A #2: S Corp Salary, How Much Practice Cash to Keep, Buying Practice Real Estate, and More

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. We're back with our second listener Q&A episode, tackling real questions from ODs around the country. From S Corp salary decisions and how much cash to keep in your practice, to buying your commercial real estate, preparing your practice for sale, and whether you're overfunding your kids' 529 plans — we cover a lot of ground in this one. Have a question you'd like answered on a future episode? Submit it at optometrywealth.com/podcastquestion. What You'll Learn What goes into determining a "reasonable salary" as an S Corp optometry practice owner — and why you should rely on your CPATwo practical methods for calculating how much cash your optometry practice should keep on handKey factors to weigh when deciding whether to buy your practice's commercial real estateWhat drives practice valuation and how to start preparing 10 years before you want to sellHow to build balance in your net worth over over time and not be overly concentrated in your practiceThe flexibility built into 529 plans that most ODs don't realize they have Key Takeaway Many of these questions come down to the same principle: your practice's cash flow is your most powerful financial tool. Whether you're deciding how much salary to pay yourself, how much cash to hold in the business, or how to diversify your net worth — using that cash flow intentionally and efficiently is what moves the needle over time. Links & Resources Submit a question for a future Q&A episodeIRS: S Corporation Compensation and Medical Insurance IssuesEp 139: Optimize Your Pay – 7 Key Factors for Setting Practice Owners’ CompensationIDOC Practice Cash Reserve White PaperIDOC How Should Optometry Practices Manage Cash?Ep 154: Trump Accounts for Kids - What Optometrists Need to KnowWant a more proactive approach to your planning? You can schedule a no-commitment introductory call to discuss what's on your mind financially and learn how we help optometrists navigate those same decisions nationwide. 👉 Schedule an introductory call The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    33 min
  6. Are Your Retirement Accounts Protected from Lawsuits? A Guide for Optometrists

    FEB 20

    Are Your Retirement Accounts Protected from Lawsuits? A Guide for Optometrists

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. As an optometrist—especially a practice owner—you face real liability exposure from both your professional work and your business. So how well are your retirement accounts and investments actually protected if something goes wrong?  In this episode, we walk through the different layers of liability protection available to ODs and dive into exactly which retirement and investment accounts are shielded from creditors, which ones aren't, and where the common gaps and misconceptions are. What You'll Learn Four common layers of liability protection available to optometrists (entities, insurance, titling, and federal/state law)Why umbrella insurance is one of the most common gaps in OD insurance planningHow ERISA law protects 401(k) and cash balance plans—and why it's the gold standardWhy solo 401(k) plans do NOT carry the same ERISA protection (a common misconception)How SEP IRAs and SIMPLE IRAs fall short on liability protection compared to full 401(k) plansHow Traditional and Roth IRAs are protected in bankruptcy (and the current dollar limit)What happens to liability protection when you roll a 401(k) into an IRA—and a best practice for keeping those dollars separateHow HSAs, taxable brokerage accounts, and 529 plans are (or aren't) protectedSteps ODs should take now to review their liability exposure Key Takeaway Not all retirement accounts are created equal when it comes to liability protection. ERISA-covered plans like 401(k)s and cash balance plans offer the strongest, unlimited federal protection—making maxing those contributions both a tax strategy and a liability strategy.  But accounts like solo 401(k)s, SIMPLE IRAs, and traditional/Roth IRAs don't carry that same blanket protection, and the gaps are highly state-dependent. Understanding where your dollars sit and how they're protected is an important part of your overall financial plan. Resources Submit your questions for upcoming Listener Q&A episodes: OptometryWealth.com/podcastquestionReach out: podcast@optometrywealth.comWant a more proactive approach to your planning? You can schedule a no-commitment introductory call to discuss what's on your mind financially and learn how we help optometrists navigate those same decisions nationwide. 👉 Schedule an introductory call The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    17 min
  7. Trump Accounts for Kids: What Optometrists Need to Know

    FEB 14

    Trump Accounts for Kids: What Optometrists Need to Know

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. Congress created a brand new investment account for kids called Trump Accounts, and the questions from optometrists have been flowing in. In this episode, we break down exactly what these accounts are, how they work, who can contribute, and - most importantly - whether they actually add anything new to the lineup of options you already have for investing on behalf of your kids. What You'll Learn What Trump Accounts are and how they workWho can contribute, how much, and whenHow contributions are taxed (and why the after-tax structure matters)How employer contributions work - and potential hurdles for practice owners contributing to their own kids' accountsWhat happens when the child turns 18How Trump Accounts compare to existing options like UTMA/UGMA accounts, 529s, and custodial Roth IRAsThe best use cases for ODs, including the $1,000 federal seed money and Roth conversion planningKey Takeaway Trump Accounts aren't a game-changer, but they can definitely be a benefit for our kids. The biggest win is the $1,000 seed money for eligible kids and the renewed attention on starting retirement savings early. They don't replace anything already in your toolkit - think of them as one more option alongside 529s, custodial accounts, and Roth IRAs. Episode Chapters [00:00] Introduction[01:00] What are Trump Accounts?[02:00] When they're available and how to open one[02:30] Who can contribute and contribution limits[03:00] Why contributions are after-tax (and why that matters)[05:00] Employer contributions through your practice[06:00] Can practice owners contribute to their own kids' accounts?[07:30] Government and nonprofit contributions & the $1,000 pilot program[08:30] Investment options inside Trump Accounts[09:00] What happens when the child turns 18[10:00] Withdrawal restrictions and the ABLE account exception[10:30] How Trump Accounts compare to existing options for kids[14:30] Best use cases for optometrists[17:00] Final thoughts: The real positive of Trump Accounts Resources Mentioned IRS Form 4547trumpaccounts.govSubmit podcast questions: www.optometrywealth.com/podcastquestionContact: podcast@optometrywealth.comWant a more proactive approach to your planning? You can schedule a no-commitment introductory call to discuss what's on your mind financially and learn how we help optometrists navigate those same decisions nationwide. 👉 Schedule an introductory call The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    19 min
  8. How to Invest Tax-Efficiently and Keep More of Your Returns (After-tax)

    FEB 5

    How to Invest Tax-Efficiently and Keep More of Your Returns (After-tax)

    Questions? Thoughts? Send a Text to The Optometry Money Podcast! We'll answer your question on the show. In this episode, we break down tax-efficient investing for ODs, showing you how to pair the right investments with the right accounts to maximize your after-tax wealth over your career. What You'll Learn Taxes can be the difference between two optometrists with identical investment returns ending up with vastly different retirement wealth. This episode breaks down how to invest tax-efficiently by pairing the right investments with the right accounts.  You'll learn which investments create tax-inefficient income (bonds, REITs) versus more favorable income (stock index funds), and the strategy for placing them across your taxable accounts, pre-tax retirement accounts, Roth accounts, and HSAs.  The key is treating all your accounts toward the same goal as one coordinated household portfolio instead of managing each separately.  Key Takeaway Don't let the tax tail wag the dog. Start with good, prudent, evidence-based investments - then optimize their placement to minimize taxes along the way. The goal isn't to avoid all taxes; it's to maximize your after-tax wealth over your lifetime. Episode Chapters [00:00] Introduction: Why tax-smart investing matters for ODs[03:00] Why taxes matter: The real drag on your investment returns[05:00] Tax Layer 1: Understanding investment account types (taxable, pre-tax, Roth, HSA)[06:00] How different types of investment income get taxed[10:00] Tax Layer 2: Tax characteristics of stocks, bonds, and REITs[12:00] How fund management impacts your tax bill[16:00] Asset location strategy: Putting it all together[20:00] Common constraints and considerations[22:00] Mistakes to avoid when managing multiple accounts[24:00] Conclusions: Focus on good investing while managing taxesResources Mentioned Free Download: Get Your OD's Guide to Tax-Smart Investing Inventory your accountsIdentify tax-inefficient holdingsEvaluate if investments are in the right placesReady for a Second Opinion? Want help reviewing your current setup? Reach out for a no-pressure conversation about whether your investments are working as tax-efficiently as they could be. Click Here to schedule your free consultation!  Submit Your Question for Q&A Episodes!  Have questions you'd want answered on the podcast? Submit your questions for future Q&A episodes: OptometryWealth.com/podcastquestion The Optometry Money Podcast is dedicated to helping optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. The show is hosted by Evon Mendrin, CFP®, CSLP®, owner of Optometry Wealth Advisors, a financial planning firm just for optometrists nationwide.

    27 min

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Welcome to the Optometry Money Podcast, hosted by Evon Mendrin CFP®, CSLP®, where he helps optometrists make better decisions around their money, careers, and practices. He explores cold-starts, practice buy-ins, career decisions, tax planning, student loans, and other money issues ODs are navigating. Evon cold-started Optometry Wealth Advisors LLC, a financial planning firm dedicated to help optometrists nationwide master their money, build wealth, and plan purposefully with their finances. Learn more about the show, and Evon, at www.optometrywealth.com.

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