Many people suffering from anxiety or depression never find out, because the body's signals get blamed on spicy food, stress, or a bad week. In this episode, host Dr. Gerald Anthony talks with Biman, a Beijing-based AI scientist and entrepreneur who spent years at Microsoft Research and now builds technology for early mental health screening. Biman explains how his team uses "vocal biomarkers" (patterns in how you speak, not what you say) so that about one minute of speech can flag depression risk. He describes why people are so often underdiagnosed, how culture and environment "miscalibrate" our inner compass, why even doctors cannot "cure" most conditions but can help people manage them, and how phones, wearables, games, and even a smart stress ball can help people notice problems earlier. The conversation closes with a lesson from Lao Tzu about sailing instead of rowing. 许多焦虑或抑郁的人从未发现自己的问题，因为身体发出的信号常被归咎于吃辣、压力大或“过几天就好”。本期节目中,主持人安远博士（Dr. Gerald Anthony）与北京的 AI 科学家、创业者 Biman 对话。他曾在微软研究院工作多年，如今专注于研发早期心理健康筛查技术。Biman 介绍了他的团队如何利用“声音生物标志物”（关注的是你怎么说，而不是说什么），仅凭约一分钟的语音就能提示抑郁风险。他还谈到：人们为什么如此容易被漏诊、文化与环境如何让我们内心的“指南针”失准、为什么医生也很难“根治”大多数疾病却能帮助人们管理病情，以及手机、可穿戴设备、游戏，甚至一颗智能减压球如何帮助人们更早察觉问题。节目最后，他分享了老子关于“划船与扬帆”的智慧。 In this episode, we unpack 本期节目深度解析: Depression and anxiety are widely underdiagnosed. Biman calls this the biggest problem: many people cannot tell whether what they feel comes from the mind or the body. 抑郁和焦虑普遍被漏诊。 Biman 认为最大的问题是：很多人分不清自己的不适来自心理还是身体。 Your voice can carry early warning signals. He says about 1 minute of speech can be screened for depression risk using vocal biomarkers such as tone, pauses, and word choice. It is a screening aid, not a diagnosis. 声音可能携带早期预警信号。 约 1 分钟的语音即可通过音调、停顿、用词等声音生物标志物筛查抑郁风险。这是筛查辅助，不是诊断。 It's how you speak, not what you say. The method does not rely on the content of your words, so telling someone "I feel great" does not change the result, he says. 看的是“怎么说”，不是“说什么”。 这种方法不依赖话语内容，所以嘴上说“我很好”并不会改变结果。 Body symptoms can be mind signals. Stomach aches, chest tightness, and pains (somatic symptoms) are often blamed on food or fatigue, when they may signal anxiety or high stress. 身体症状可能是心理信号。 胃痛、胸闷、疼痛（躯体症状）常被归因于饮食或疲劳，实际上可能是焦虑或高压的信号。 Think of mental health as an inner "compass." Culture, circle, and access to care decide how well that compass is calibrated, and tools can help recalibrate it. 把心理健康想象成内心的“指南针”。 文化、身边的人和就医便利程度，决定了它是否准确;工具可以帮助校准。 Treat the root cause, not just the symptoms. "Take a vacation" or "drink hot water" targets symptoms; diagnostics aim at causes such as sleep, stress hormones, and lifestyle. 要治根因，不只是症状。 “去度假”或“多喝热水”针对的是症状；诊断要找的是睡眠、压力激素和生活方式等根因。 Early detection beats late treatment. Biman says most conditions are harder to treat the later they are found, and that phones make screening scalable where specialists are scarce. 早发现胜过晚治疗。 大多数问题发现得越晚越难处理；而手机让专业人员稀缺的地方也能普及筛查。 AI supports doctors; it doesn't replace them. AI can collect information so a doctor may spend about 5 minutes reviewing a chart, he explains, which protects a scarce resource: doctors' time. AI 是医生的助手，而非替代。 AI 先收集信息，医生只需约 5 分钟查看病历，从而保护医生这一稀缺资源。 Simple tools can anchor you in the present. A stress ball, a deep breath, or washing your face can interrupt runaway thoughts, because anxiety is mostly about the future or the past. 简单的小工具能把你拉回当下。 减压球、深呼吸或洗把脸，都能打断失控的念头，因为焦虑多半来自对未来的担忧或对过去的懊悔。 ☕️ 本期嘉宾｜Guest Biman Najika Liyanage : An inventor, entrepreneur, and AI expert with over a decade of experience in advanced technology and two decades of building and investing in cross-border ventures in China. A Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree in healthcare, he holds multiple patents and has earned prestigious design recognition, including Red Dot, iF, and IDEA awards. Today, he is advancing AI-driven, non-invasive depression risk detection through vocal biomarkers—opening new possibilities for earlier identification and more proactive mental health intervention. 一位资深发明家、企业家及人工智能专家，在先进技术领域拥有十余年的专业经验，并在中国深耕二十年，持续打造和投资跨境科技企业。 作为《福布斯》医疗健康领域“30 Under 30”榜单入选者，他拥有多项专利，并曾荣获红点设计奖（Red Dot）、iF 设计奖及 IDEA 设计奖等国际知名设计奖项。 如今，他致力于推动基于人工智能与声音生物标志物的无创抑郁风险识别技术，为更早发现心理健康风险、实现更主动的干预与支持开辟新的可能性。 🎤 主播｜Host Dr Gerald Anthony 安远博士 美籍在华专家，自21世纪初起便定居中国，在全球教育与健康福祉领域作出了卓越贡献。安远博士拥有超过25年的教育、商业及心理咨询从业经验，是一位经验丰富、综合能力全面且富有活力的专业人士。 在SENIA 国际组织中担任的领导职务，是北京分会理事及荣誉主席，参与地方分会的各项项目，并持续完善社群内部针对神经多样性群体的支持网络。 An esteemed American expatriate, has been a resident of China since the early 2000’s, contributing significantly to the global educational and Wellbeing landscape. With over 25 years of experience in education, business, and counseling, Dr. Anthony is a seasoned professional with a broad and dynamic skill set. He plays leadership roles within SENIA International, and serves as a board member and Chairman Emeritus of SENIA-Beijing, contributing to the local chapter's initiatives and strengthening the network of support for neurodiversity within the community. 🎯 ShowNotes Attention Is All You Need 《注意力就是你所需要的一切》 患者健康问卷-9（PHQ-9）：抑郁症筛查与评估工具 American Psychiatric Association, DSM-5 美国精神医学学会：《精神障碍诊断与统计手册》第五版（DSM-5） 💿 BGM Music by: MYKOLA ODOROH 📹 制作团队｜CREDITS 执行制片人 Executive Producer : Enigineering Wellbeing 制片人Producer: Dr. Paul Rochon 制作负责人 Production Leader: Jessie Li 主编 Lead Editor: Amy Bulman 视觉编辑 Graphic Editor: Javan Anthony 传播编辑 Communications Editor: Cici Wang , Sydney Zhang 传播负责人 Communications Leader: Diana Liu 特别鸣谢 Special Thanks: 金尚源 JinShang Yuan 🔵 全平台收听｜Hear Us from Here 苹果播客 Apple Podcast｜小红书 RedNote｜TikTok｜抖音｜Instagram｜小宇宙XYZfm｜YouTube｜Spotify｜EW Podcast Engineering Wellbeing A podcast where we explore Wellbeing as a BRIDGE. In each monthly series, we take one theme and explore it through four complimentary lenses: a systems level framing, a technology perspective, a specialist or scientific viewpoint, and a cultural Chinese context lens. Because Wellbeing is never one-dimensional; it is biology, psychology, social, cultural, and technology all at once. 在这里，我们将探索健康福祉如何成为连接不同领域的「桥梁」。每个月，我们将围绕一个主题，通过4个互补的视角展开探讨：系统层面的宏观框架、科技维度的前沿洞察、专家学者的科学观点，以及中国本土的文化语境。因为真正的幸福从来不是单一的维度，而是生物学、心理学、社会学、文化与科技的交融共生。 Engineering Wellbeing A leading global health and Wellbeing consultant company. We help individuals and Organisations to link performance and Wellbeing. WeChat Official｜Web｜LinkedIn 在小宇宙查看该单集文稿
