Disorder

Jason Pack
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Are you fed up with the never ending crises in the news? Are you looking for Order amidst the Disorder? Listen to the Disorder Podcast as we offer forward thinking solutions to the biggest challenges of the day. We are living through an age of unrivaled disorder: an out-of-control Trump Administration, never ending scandals, escalating threats from China, Iran, and Russia, and the rapid march of destabilizing tech. The “good guys” - rules-based ordering centrists - are on the back foot, while neo-populist strongmen gain ground by fuelling more and more chaos. But there are ways out of this mess. Join us as we Order the Disorder. Each week, host Jason Pack, co-hosts Jane Kinnimont and Mark Lobel, world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, present their solutions to problems like: why are centrists losing and populist strongmen winning? How do we save our democracies? How do we deal with threats from Disorderers like Iran and Russia? And how do we build multilateral coalitions that work, how can we regulate AI, defend Ukraine, and fight climate change? All in a world without American leadership? Disorder is the go-to podcast for anyone who wants intelligent, thoughtful solutions to the Disorder engulfing our mad mad mad mad world. To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit ⁠disordershow.com/club Website: https://disordershow.com/

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  1. 28 Oct ·  Bonus • Subscriber Early Access

    MEGA ORDERERS BONUS: Israel’s Election: Netanyahu, Eisenkot, and Coalition Chaos

    With Israel heading to the polls on 27 October, Jason and Jane go deep on the electoral arithmetic and the political stakes. Can Gadi Eisenkot assemble a coalition? Would Naftali Bennett or Avigdor Lieberman cooperate with the Arab parties or religious factions? And what happens when the president asks a succession of leaders to form a government and nobody can get to 61 seats? They explore the divide over ultra-Orthodox military service, Netanyahu’s legal cases, Trump’s intervention in Israeli politics, and the consequences of political deadlock for Iran, Gaza and relations with Syria. Plus: what Israeli political cartoons reveal about prejudice — and a brief detour into what Count Binface might do with a seat in the Knesset. ORDERING THE DISORDER: Even a decisive election result cannot create order without a workable governing coalition and institutions capable of commanding trust. Thank you to our Mega Orderers for keeping these deeper conversations possible. Send your questions to disordershow@gmail.com. Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack -
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https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow SHOWNOTES LINKS Call Me Back with Dan Senor — Three Election Scenarios Nobody Is Talking About, with Gil Hoffman
https://arkmedia.beehiiv.com/podcast/s/call_me_back_-_with_dan_senor/three_election_scenarios_nobody_is_talking_about_-_with_gil_hoffman Call Me Back — Is Israel’s Global Standing on the Israeli Ballot? With Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal
https://arkmedia.beehiiv.com/podcast/s/call_me_back_-_with_dan_senor/is_israel_s_global_standing_on_the_israeli_ballot_-_with_amit_segal_and_nadav_eyal Associated Press — A look at the major candidates in Israel’s election
https://apnews.com/article/e83e117c86c821a4a8c3546848e9795d Reuters — Israel’s election may change its leader, but not Iran war policy
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-election-may-change-its-leader-not-iran-war-policy-2026-10-21/ The Guardian — After three disastrous years, Israel needs to rethink itself
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2026/oct/21/israel-new-government-election-opposition-victory-palestine

  2. 27 Oct • Subscriber Early Access

    Ep 216. Listener Questions: Has Centrism Failed, Is French Disorder spreading, Can Ukraine Hold On, and Who Can Order the Disorder?

    Jason and Jane are back with your questions — and an encouragingly modest agenda: saving centrism, standing by Ukraine, surviving the US midterms, tackling climate change and keeping the Red Sea open. Is anti-incumbency a symptom of a broken social contract? Can democracies outlast Putin without American leadership? And is a protest movement without a concrete demand doomed to achieve nothing? We also tackle Trump’s Russian diesel deal, whether Trump will fightback after a midterms loss coherent fightback, what COP31 can achieve in Antalya, and how the Houthis connect the Iran war to the Horn of Africa. Along the way, Jason offers the Democrats a slogan, and we discover that puppet satire may be the most reliable form of political analysis. ORDERING THE DISORDER: Big collective-action problems need leadership, enforceable rules and practical demands — not just outrage. MEGA ORDERERS BONUS: Israel votes on 27 October. Could Netanyahu survive yet again? Jason and Jane examine Gadi Eisenkot, Naftali Bennett, Avigdor Lieberman and the Arab parties; ultra-Orthodox conscription; and the prospect of a knesset that cannot form a government. Join at https://disordershow.com/club. Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack -
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https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow SHOWNOTES LINKS Disorder Ep 212 — Mark Galeotti on War Putinism and Russian bears
https://podfollow.com/disorder/episode/502c88e21901dc3f66bac9d075868ce5dd86ca63/view The Rest Is Politics: Leading — Mary Trump, “Trump’s Niece on Why He’s on Putin’s Side”
https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/trumps-niece-on-why-hes-on-putins-side/id1665265193?i=1000796648618 The Rest Is Politics — Trump and Putin vs Zelensky: Is Europe Sleepwalking into Disaster?
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-rest-is-politics-107223135/episode/581-trump-and-putin-vs-zelensky-348060976/ Puppet Regime — official political satire site
https://puppetregime.com/ Spitting Image — official YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@SpittingImage UN Climate Change — COP31 in Antalya, 9–20 November 2026
https://unfccc.int/cop31 The Atlantic — Trump’s “Staggering One-Two Punch” to Ukraine
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/10/ra-ukraine/689068/ Disorder — join the Mega Orderers Club
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  3. 4 days ago

    Ep 215. Who is the real Nigel Farage? John Sweeney

    As right-wing populist and far-right parties see a major rise across Europe, Nigel Farage is one of the most consequential politicians of our time.   He may be the UK’s next Prime Minister.  Investigative journalist, and best-selling author, John Sweeney is a thorn in Nigel Farage’s side. He is the Reform UK correspondent of the Nerve. He has covered wars, revolutions and disorder in a hundred countries, including going undercover in Chechnya, North Korea and Zimbabwe. He’s written 17 books including the Sunday Times bestseller ‘Killer in the Kremlin’ about Vladimir Putin.   In this lively interview, which includes explicit language, about his new, explosive book ‘The Real Nigel Farage’ Sweeney does not hold back, citing well-sourced allegations, suggesting the charismatic and popular Reform UK leader is cruel, chaotic and akin to a leader of a cult.  It's a packed hour full of startling allegations, such as Farage not liking working class people and academics, his sympathies towards Vladimir Putin and his narcissistic tendencies.   Nigel Farage, as Sweeney himself makes clear throughout the interview, denies any wrongdoing and has said of Sweeney that he has caused him more misery than anyone else in 25 years of politics. Sweeney says Farage has not yet sued about any of the allegations in his book.   Also in this interview, Sweeney reveals what really happened that caused his infamous shouting match against Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis, which has been seen by millions of people around the world.   Sweeney also tells Out of Order with Mark Lobel why he thinks child serial killer Lucy Letby is innocent. Sweeney has reported on women wrongly jailed for murder before and revealed flaws in the case against Sally Clarke. Her verdict was subsequently overturned in 2003.  LINKS:  Buy John’s book, ‘The Real Nigel Farage’ here: https://amzn.eu/d/07m4laz3   Crowdfunders for Ukraine: https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/qr/XWJOKwDn?utm_campaign=sharemodal&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=shortlink   https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/qr/VlDvrKKn?utm_campaign=sharemodal&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=shortlink   John’s podcast on Lucy Letby https://open.spotify.com/show/0rwlMXKNQK0a7ug2p4oX1D   John Sweeney losing his temper – Panorama, BBC One https://youtu.be/mjlo4u_8g60?is=15o0HQfnzdU5gC2f  Contact Mark Lobel here: https://www.mark-lobel.com/getintouch   HOST: Mark Lobel @marklobeltv GUEST: John Sweeney @johnsweeneyroar PRODUCER: George McDonagh Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

    Ep 215. Who is the real Nigel Farage? John Sweeney

  4. 14 Oct • Subscribers Only

    MEGA ORDERERS BONUS: Can Trump Tariff His Way to a Bolsonaro Victory?

    Brazil’s election is on a knife edge. Jason and Jane discuss Flávio Bolsonaro’s challenge to Lula, voters’ anger over crime and inequality, the rise of evangelical politics and the enthusiasm of financial markets for the right. Could Trump’s tariffs and political pressure help swing an election? What would a Bolsonaro victory mean for the Amazon, climate diplomacy and Brazil’s global role? And why does neo-populism sound increasingly similar from Brasília to Britain? As Jason puts it: “If at first you don’t succeed, rig, rig again.” ORDERING THE DISORDER: The left must confront its failures on crime and inequality, but foreign economic coercion threatens democratic sovereignty everywhere. Thanks to our Mega Orderers for supporting these deeper discussions. Tell your friends and help us grow the club! Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack -
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  5. 13 Oct • Subscribers Only

    Ep 214. France Burns, Britain Borrows, and AI Takes Over

    From tear gassing student protestors in France to Britain’s chaotic party conferences with their controversial motions, Jason and Jane ask whether Western democracies can still deliver anything positive for the next generation. They take on Labour’s spending promises, the Tory’s bizzarre tax cut pledges, the Greens’ Zionism is Racism controversy and the growing power of bond markets over elected governments. Then: are AI and its creators taking over? Jane reports from the UN General Assembly on the push for global AI rules. After the break, we turn to the US midterms and Iranian-linked security threats in Britain. Plus, Jason finally learns what “squeaky bum time” means. And apparently it is not only about clearing the midpoint. Then in the MEGA ORDERERS BONUS just for our subscribers: Can Trump Tariff His Way to a Bolsonaro Victory? Brazil’s election, the Bolsonaro comeback, Lula’s failures, crime, evangelical politics and whether economic pressure is becoming a new form of foreign election interference. Join the Mega Orderers Club: https://disordershow.com/club And in the ORDERING THE DISORDER: Democracies need room to invest in the next generation and international cooperation to ensure AI serves people rather than addiction, polarisation and dominance. Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack - https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow SHOWNOTES LINKS Have the Greens just voted for a de facto ban on Jews? https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000793267697 More on this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/oct/02/green-party-anti-zionism-motion-attempt-tell-jews-how-to-think 'Everyone hates the police' – what France's school protests reveal about a divided nation https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crq5nlqnn184o George McDonagh produced Black Box about AI https://www.theguardian.com/technology/audio/2026/sep/03/black-box-the-chatbots-spirals-ai-psychosis-podcast And then an On the Media about US polarization and ice. https://open.spotify.com/episode/2RUp1IfoSX2CXl0s1eVi3h?si=1IlVr9j2SZqt9evXmucpaQ&utm_source=copy-link&t=2045

  6. 12 Oct

    Ep 214. France Burns, Britain Borrows, and AI Takes Over

    From tear gassing student protestors in France to Britain’s chaotic party conferences with their controversial motions, Jason and Jane ask whether Western democracies can still deliver anything positive for the next generation. They take on Labour’s spending promises, the Tory’s bizzarre tax cut pledges, the Greens’ Zionism is Racism controversy and the growing power of bond markets over elected governments. Then: are AI and its creators taking over? Jane reports from the UN General Assembly on the push for global AI rules. After the break, we turn to the US midterms and Iranian-linked security threats in Britain. Plus, Jason finally learns what “squeaky bum time” means. And apparently it is not only about clearing the midpoint. Then in the MEGA ORDERERS BONUS just for our subscribers: Can Trump Tariff His Way to a Bolsonaro Victory? Brazil’s election, the Bolsonaro comeback, Lula’s failures, crime, evangelical politics and whether economic pressure is becoming a new form of foreign election interference. Join the Mega Orderers Club: https://disordershow.com/club And in the ORDERING THE DISORDER: Democracies need room to invest in the next generation and international cooperation to ensure AI serves people rather than addiction, polarisation and dominance. Producer: George McDonagh Subscribe to our Substack - https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Disorder on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow SHOWNOTES LINKS Have the Greens just voted for a de facto ban on Jews? https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000793267697 More on this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/oct/02/green-party-anti-zionism-motion-attempt-tell-jews-how-to-think 'Everyone hates the police' – what France's school protests reveal about a divided nation https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crq5nlqnn184o  George McDonagh produced Black Box about AI https://www.theguardian.com/technology/audio/2026/sep/03/black-box-the-chatbots-spirals-ai-psychosis-podcast  And then an On the Media about US polarization and ice. https://open.spotify.com/episode/2RUp1IfoSX2CXl0s1eVi3h?si=1IlVr9j2SZqt9evXmucpaQ&utm_source=copy-link&t=2045  Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

  7. 9 Oct ·  Bonus • Subscribers Only

    MEGA ORDERERS EXTENDED EPISODE: Erin Petrey on Midterm Battles, Rebuilding Civic Trust, and Playing Hardball

    What do Erin’s experiences in post-revolutionary Libya reveal about the collapse of civic trust back home? Then, as Jason and Erin Order the Disorder, they debate whether centrist pragmatic realism or progressive dreaming is the path forward. They explore critical Senate and House races to watch in North Carolina and Texas, whether Democrats should pack the Supreme Court to counter executive overreach, and how international trade and tariffs could hit MAGA voters where it hurts. Plus: can the rule of law still win in Trump’s America, or must centrist Democrats go lower to actually restore order?

  8. 8 Oct

    Ep 213 The Democratic Identity ahead of the Midterms with Erin Petrey

    Jason is joined by former Kentucky congressional candidate Erin Petrie, board member of Bourbon Women and active DAR member, to dissect the ideological clash at the heart of the American left. They discuss whether progressive slogans like "abolish ICE" drive moderate voters into Trumpism, how Citizens United and billionaire donors have created a pay-to-play system and why politicians in Washington fail to address the affordability crisis in rural America. MEGA ORDERERS BONUS: What do Erin’s experiences in post-revolutionary Libya reveal about the collapse of civic trust back home? Then, as Jason and Erin Order the Disorder, they debate whether centrist pragmatic realism or progressive dreaming is the path forward. They explore critical Senate and House races to watch in North Carolina and Texas, whether Democrats should pack the Supreme Court to counter executive overreach, and how international trade and tariffs could hit MAGA voters where it hurts. Plus: can the rule of law still win in Trump’s America, or must centrist Democrats go lower to actually restore order? Join the Mega Orderers Club for the full bonus:  https://disordershow.com/club Producer: Sam Cluley Subscribe to Ordering the Disorder:  https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ Disorder on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@DisorderShow SHOWNOTES LINKS Erin’s Website:  https://erinpetrey.com/ Erin’s Podcast:  https://www.thekentuckyedge.com/on-the-edge-with-erin-petrey/ Kentucky Educational Television (KET) Debate Coverage Citizens United v. FEC:  https://www.fec.gov/legal-resources/court-cases/citizens-united-v-fec/ History of ICE: https://www.dhs.gov/history Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Are you fed up with the never ending crises in the news? Are you looking for Order amidst the Disorder? Listen to the Disorder Podcast as we offer forward thinking solutions to the biggest challenges of the day. We are living through an age of unrivaled disorder: an out-of-control Trump Administration, never ending scandals, escalating threats from China, Iran, and Russia, and the rapid march of destabilizing tech. The “good guys” - rules-based ordering centrists - are on the back foot, while neo-populist strongmen gain ground by fuelling more and more chaos. But there are ways out of this mess. Join us as we Order the Disorder. Each week, host Jason Pack, co-hosts Jane Kinnimont and Mark Lobel, world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, present their solutions to problems like: why are centrists losing and populist strongmen winning? How do we save our democracies? How do we deal with threats from Disorderers like Iran and Russia? And how do we build multilateral coalitions that work, how can we regulate AI, defend Ukraine, and fight climate change? All in a world without American leadership? Disorder is the go-to podcast for anyone who wants intelligent, thoughtful solutions to the Disorder engulfing our mad mad mad mad world. To join our Mega Orderers Club, and get ad free listening, early episode releases, bonus content and exclusive access to live events, visit ⁠disordershow.com/club Website: https://disordershow.com/

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  • Creator
    Jason Pack
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    239
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 766979 868329
  • Show Website
    Disorder
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