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Distance To Empty

Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes

Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    Tom Murray is Flagstaff Bound at the 2026 Cocodona 250

    FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026! Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! For five years, Tom Murray has been the friendly face on the other side of the table at Cocodona 250. He's handed you your bib at check-in. He's been at aid stations at 2am when you needed someone most. He's watched runners come through Mingus destroyed and leave Sedona elated. He's seen this race do everything it can do to a person. This year, he's not volunteering. He's running. In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with Tom — a Tucson local, Aravaipa community cornerstone, and soon-to-be 50-year-old — for one of the most genuinely moving conversations in the series. Tom talks about what it means to finally come out from behind the table, what he's absorbed from five years of watching 250 miles of suffering up close, and why turning 50 made this the year he couldn't keep the idea at bay any longer. He also talks about what he's learned from observing runners that most runners never get to see — how transient any single moment in this race really is, why you never make a decision alone on the trail, and what it was like to watch someone completely fall apart at Mingus and then see that same person glowing in Sedona hours later. He has never finished a hundred-miler. He is showing up anyway. His five-word description of Cocodona 250 might be the best one we've heard all series. Oh, and his eighth-grade basketball coach told him he should never shoot the ball. The MBA at Mingus Mountain cannot wait. Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel.

    22 min
  2. 2 DAYS AGO

    Rachel Entrekin is Flagstaff Bound at the 2026 Cocodona 250

    FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026! Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! She won it. Then she came back and won it again — faster than anyone ever has. Now Rachel Entrekin is back for round three at the Cocodona 250, and if you think two titles and a course record means she's showing up comfortable, you haven't been paying attention. In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, Kevin and Peter sit down with the two-time Cocodona 250 champion to talk about what it actually takes to go from winning to dominating — a 10-hour PR, a course record, and a finish line experience that was nothing like the grumpy one before it. Rachel gets into the specifics of how she's thinking about year three: chasing a sub-60 hour finish, fixing the miles she gives away on the back half of the course, navigating a deeper women's field than she's ever faced, and the grilled cheese at mile 250 that she credits with saving her mental state last year. She also talks crew philosophy, the unlock that nutrition became for her 2025 performance, what it means to finally race with a watch, and why she thinks she can still find time — even after already running the fastest women's finish in the history of this race. Oh, and she's already committed to the Mingus Basketball Association at mile 110. She's projecting five points. She's been warned not to practice during taper. Cocodona 250 kicks off Monday, May 4th at 5 AM Pacific. Follow the action live on the Mountain Outpost YouTube channel.

    26 min
  3. 6 DAYS AGO

    Andy Glaze is Flagstaff Bound at the 2026 Cocodona 250

    FLAGSTAFF BOUND is BACK for 2026! Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Get some free DTE Swag by supporting out sponsors! Check out Mount to Coast here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mounttocoast.com/discount/Distance⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code DISTANCE at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Janji.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you! Most runners think the Cocodona 250 is just a race — Andy Glaze reveals it’s much more like a family reunion, a test of resilience, and a celebration of pushing boundaries. With five finishes under his belt, Andy shares how experience, course knowledge, and a relentless mindset shape his strategy for one of the toughest ultra marathons in the world.He breaks down how each year’s course throws new surprises—be it mud, heat, or rain—yet his approach remains the same: keep moving forward, stay healthy, and embrace the chaos. Discover the behind-the-scenes stories of race-breaking weather, unexpected obstacles, and what really goes through Andy’s mind when the miles get brutal. You’ll learn how knowledge of the course, mental toughness, and even a playful Mingus basketball shot challenge keep him going through the long, lonely hours in the wild Arizona landscape.This episode dives into the heart of ultra endurance—highlighting the importance of mental resilience, adaptation, and a smile when things get toughest. Andy also reveals the surprising similarities between writing a book and running 250 miles—both demand determination, grit, and a love for the journey, not just the finish line. Perfect for ultrarunners, adventure seekers, or anyone facing their own daunting challenges, this episode is packed with insights that will inspire you to reframe how you approach your hardest days.And yes, Andy’s new audiobook gives you an unfiltered inside look at his incredible journey—seven hours of storytelling, his signature humor, and the grit that makes him a true ultra legend. Whether you’re dreaming of the next big race or just need a dose of motivation to tackle your daily grind, this episode will leave you ready to face whatever comes next with a smile—and maybe a basketball shot or two.

    26 min

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Become a Subscriber: http://patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPod Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.

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