Your CMO Mentor

The Marketing Meetup

What if you could borrow the brain of a world-class marketer for half an hour? That’s the idea behind CMO Mentor. Each week, a senior marketing leader - from places like Meta, Samsung, LinkedIn, Barclays and more - takes on real questions from you. You’ll get quickfire lessons, deeper dives into their craft, and the sort of honest, lived advice you rarely hear on a stage. No chest-beating or “back in my day” stories, plenty of useful answers to the problems you’re facing right now. Brought to you by The Marketing Meetup.

Episodes

  1. 6 DAYS AGO

    How marketing can lead AI transformation in your company

    When we spoke to Jessica Cobarras, CMO of Asana, her passion for people really came through. In this podcast episode, we talk about how centring people at the heart of what she does has allowed Jessica to create an environment where teams can do their best work, grow their careers, and feel connected to the mission they're building together.Thanks Weglot for sponsoring this episode. This is the event Joe mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/live/XUs5WFZBL5YKey takeaways from the episodeReframe AI from tools to outcomes.Jessica emphasises that AI transformation should not start with adopting more platforms or features. Instead, marketing leaders should begin with the outcomes they want to improve (impact, effectiveness, customer value) and then use existing tools and capabilities more intelligently to get there. Human barriers matter more than technical ones.A recurring theme is that change around AI is often slowed by very human challenges—imposter syndrome, fear of getting it wrong, and uncertainty about how roles might evolve. Addressing these emotional and psychological barriers is critical to successful adoption. Soft skills are becoming a core marketing capability.Jessica highlights communication, empathy, and the ability to navigate ambiguity as essential skills for marketers today—especially in fast-changing environments driven by AI and automation. Psychological safety enables innovation.Leaders need to actively create an environment where teams feel safe to experiment, ask questions, and make mistakes. This safety helps marketers remain curious and creative rather than becoming defensive during periods of rapid change. AI adoption should be cross-functional and collaborative.The conversation stresses the importance of strong alignment between marketing, sales, and technology teams. AI initiatives work best when they are built together rather than owned by a single function in isolation. The real opportunity is role evolution, not replacement.Jessica shares how AI can augment marketers’ work and reshape responsibilities, allowing teams to focus more on strategic thinking and higher-value contributions instead of routine or manual tasks.

    40 min
  2. 29 JAN

    How to justify brand marketing spend (and build trust with leadership)

    Brand is one of the hardest things for marketers to justify, especially when budgets are tight, pressure is high, and leadership wants results now. Today, we’re joined by Matt Herbert, Co-Founder of Tracksuit, to talk about how marketers can make more confident cases for brand and use measurement to build trust, not just dashboards. This is a grounded, mentorship-led conversation about what “brand” really means inside a business how brand and performance work together rather than against each other choosing brand metrics leadership actually understands using data as career currency, not just reporting staying confident when measurement reveals uncomfortable truths If you’ve ever struggled to get buy-in for long-term work, felt nervous about what measurement might uncover, or wanted to be taken more seriously in strategic conversations, this episode is for you. ⸻ Huge thanks to our sponsor, Weglot! Weglot makes website translation feel human, helping brands grow into new markets without losing their tone of voice. This week we're excited to share access to Weglot’s Next Market Live replay, packed with real stories and practical insights on expanding into Spain. ⸻ CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 4:31 The skill marketers need now 6:03 Existing vs future demand 8:22 Mentors, growth, and good advice 11:45 The mistake marketers make early 14:13 What brand tracking really solves 16:56 Why brand is everyone’s job 18:21 The brand metrics that matter 22:14 Making the case for brand under pressure 25:00 Balancing short-term and long-term 29:28 Using insight as career currency 32:02 How fast brand actually moves 37:25 How to start even with limited budget 43:20 Building trust with brand data 47:03 One thing to do tomorrow ⸻ GUEST Matt Herbert, Co-Founder and CCO at Tracksuit https://www.linkedin.com/in/herbertmattj https://www.gotracksuit.com/uk ⸻ STAY IN THE LOOP This podcast is brought to you by The Marketing Meetup. Get thoughtful marketing ideas, upcoming episodes, and community conversations in your inbox. https://themarketingmeetup.com/newsletter ⸻ WHAT SHOULD WE COVER NEXT? We shape Your CMO Mentor around the questions marketers are actually asking. If there’s a challenge you’d love us to tackle, let us know. We’re listening.

    51 min
  3. 22 JAN

    How to balance brand and demand without wasting budget or credibility

    Many marketers are told they have to choose: brand or demand.More leads now, or long-term impact later.In this episode of Your CMO Mentor from The Marketing Meetup, Jessica Shapiro (CMO at LiveRamp, former marketing leader at Starbucks and SAP) explains why that framing is broken and what actually works instead.We get into how brand and demand feed each other, not fight for budget. Jessica shares real examples from global brands, honest lessons from leadership, and clear advice for marketers trying to get buy-in from CEOs and CFOs who want results now.You’ll hear: • Why brand and demand are a symbiotic system, not competing channels • What’s different (and what isn’t) between B2B and B2C brand building • How Starbucks used brand experience to unlock real demand growth • How to make the case for brand when leadership only asks for leads • What strong marketing teams do differently to align brand, demand, and salesThis episode is for marketers at any level who want to do thoughtful work, build credibility, and stop feeling like they’re fighting the same internal battle every quarter.Timestamps00:00 – Why brand and demand aren’t opposites06:38 – The skill every marketer should build early07:31 – Why storytelling separates good marketers from great ones10:02 – The truth about mentors12:13 – Career advice from Microsoft16:13 – Why failure matters more than early wins18:53 – Brand vs demand26:40 – How to get CEOs and CFOs on board29:17 – Starbucks brand experience → demand growth32:29 – How to structure teams35:02 – How to fuel everyday collaboration36:29 – Budgets & 60/40 rule41:13 – “My CEO only wants leads”: how to navigate that conversation43:59 – One thing every marketer should practice more👉 Follow us for thoughtful marketing conversations @themarketingmeetupSubscribe to borrow the brain of one of marketing's brightest brains every week!

    45 min
  4. 15 JAN

    How to Measure Creator Marketing (Without Follower Count)

    Creators aren’t a channel to buy. They’re people to partner with.In this episode of Your CMO Mentor, we’re joined by Brit Starr, CMO at CreatorIQ, to break down what marketers need to understand about the creator economy and how to build creator programs that drive brand love + measurable business outcomes at the same time. We talk about: • Why follower count is “out” (and what matters more) • How to pick creators using brand suitability + content performance • Why creator retention is the biggest lever for sustained growth • How to report creator impact to leadership (from share of voice to revenue) • Where AI helps and which “messy human bits” you should never automate If you’re trying to balance CFO pressure with long-term brand building, this one’s for you. **************** About the series - Your CMO Mentor To help you level up, we get marketing’s brightest brains to open up! In this new series, we bring you honest, practical marketing mentorship from the people running the world’s biggest brands. From Meta to LinkedIn, Adobe to Formula E, these leaders share insights, tactics, and real answers to your marketing challenges. This podcast is designed for marketers at any level who want to grow, with real-world takeaways, not war stories. Whether you’re solo in your role, scaling a team, or navigating your first CMO gig we’ve got your back. **************** Thanks to our sponsor: Weglot: website translation that helps you keep tone of voice consistent across languages. **************** 00:00 Intro 04:26 Q1: If you started marketing today, what skills first? 05:37 Q2: What trait do you admire in marketers? 08:02 Q3: Dream mentor / biggest lesson 11:12 Q4: Advice to younger self 13:49 Creators as people, not channels 16:33 Stop treating creators like a media buy 21:15 Measuring creator work + reporting 24:49 Trust signals + why follower count is “out” 27:39 Top factors for choosing creators 30:23 AI + safety/suitability by brand + by market 37:07 What should not be automated? 44:18 Listener scenario

    51 min
  5. 13/11/2025

    How to lead marketing that drives growth, with the CMO of Meta

    To help you level up, we get marketing’s biggest brains to open up!What’s it really like being the CMO of Meta? And what lessons can we steal for our own day-to-day?In this episode of Your CMO Mentor, we sit down with Alex Schultz, Chief Marketing Officer at Meta, for a no-nonsense deep dive into measurement, leadership, creativity, and how to actually get marketing taken seriously at the top table.Alex shares hard-earned lessons on:- The single most important thing to measure in digital marketing (and why we’re all doing it wrong)- How to win over your CFO and CEO without losing your soul - What a North Star really is and why it’s not just a KPI in disguise- Why your number two priority is probably ruining your number oneTimestamps below ↓00:00 – Intro00:36 – The challenge with goal setting1:18 – The threat to your top priority2:07 – A mindset shift in the boardroom2:34 – How Click Here changed TMM5:05 – Why incrementality matters9:51 – Proving impact with lift studies16:50 – Presenting to senior leaders23:10 – Making the case for brand30:03 – What makes a great North Star34:05 – When to change your North Star37:02 – Leading through a crisis39:52 – The pressure of being Meta’s CMO42:12 – Is AI changing everything again?48:49 – New in post: where to start?💬 Got a question or scenario for a future episode? Leave it in the comments we’d love to hear from you.👥 Special thanks to our sponsor, Censuswide, whose CMO Report you can download free here →#YourCMOMentor #TheMarketingMeetup #MarketingLeadership #CMOPodcast #DigitalMarketing #MarketingStrategy #Incrementality #MarketingMeasurement #BrandMarketing #AlexSchultz #MetaMarketing #B2BMarketing

    50 min

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What if you could borrow the brain of a world-class marketer for half an hour? That’s the idea behind CMO Mentor. Each week, a senior marketing leader - from places like Meta, Samsung, LinkedIn, Barclays and more - takes on real questions from you. You’ll get quickfire lessons, deeper dives into their craft, and the sort of honest, lived advice you rarely hear on a stage. No chest-beating or “back in my day” stories, plenty of useful answers to the problems you’re facing right now. Brought to you by The Marketing Meetup.

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