The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation

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A network of conversations grounded in identifying abundance in us all. At the heart of these dialogues, two people are meeting, in a distilled moment, and process, with gratitude. Showing up for the journey to receive and give— showing up for reciprocity— knowledge that we do not always emphasize in Western cultures but need to in order to fully divulge and embrace the complicated nature of self. It is in these rituals of nourishing the spirit that we can also prioritize community, compassion, and responsibility. The Unfolding is a gift to embrace wholeness, together.

  1. 6 days ago

    Learning to Land Softly with Jovian Zayne

    In this episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, Rachel Keener welcomes author Jovian Zayne, whose book Soft Landings for Hard Days offers a gentle reminder that we don’t have to move through hard seasons alone. Jovian shares how the phrase “soft landings” came to her during a prayer with close friends and grew into an invitation to return to ourselves and care for one another. She and Rachel explore what it means to be gentle with yourself, make room for your feelings, honor life’s changing seasons, and notice the good that’s still here. The conversation also touches on uncertainty, shifting routines, and the difference between talking about emotions and actually allowing ourselves to feel them. Jovian reflects on the family and friends who have supported her, and how community can help us feel seen while still making space for our own needs. Listen in for a thoughtful conversation about navigating hard days, finding your footing, and creating softer places to land for yourself and for others. More about Jovian Zayne: Jovian Zayne is the CEO and Founder of The OnPurpose Movement®, a professional development firm committed to developing values-driven leaders. The author of the highly anticipated book, Soft Landings For Hard Days (Penguin Life, October 27th, 2026), Jovian’s work redefines how leaders honor their humanity while creating legacy-defining impact. With nearly 20 years of experience developing thousands of values-driven leaders as a certified leadership coach and award-winning master facilitator and speaker, Jovian has a trusted history of incisively encouraging the human spirit and transforming the lives of others through her inspiring and grounded approach. Her firm’s client list includes Google, Indeed, IDEO, The New York Times, Meta, Goldman Sachs, Viacom, The Clinton Foundation, Harvard University, and Janelle Monáe’s Wondaland Records, among others. A 2019 Aspen Ideas Fellow, Jovian has been featured across various outlets and platforms, including New York Magazine, Fast Company, NPR, The Huffington Post, The Grammys (Positive Vibes Only), The Los Angeles Times, Essence, and Black Enterprise, among others. She is the Founder of the annual International Day of Purpose®, and in partnership with The Obama Administration, Big Brothers Big Sisters, and various organizations and celebrities, including Mandy Moore, and Jada Pinkett-Smith, its global reach spanned over 18 million people. Jovian is an IGNITE leadership fellow at NYU’s Wagner Graduate School and an “It's all about Business” fellow at the Wake Forest Graduate School of Business. She is a graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where she was elected Senior Class President. Jovian, her husband, and their daughter reside in Los Angeles, California, though they consider themselves global citizens, called to spread joy and light as they explore the world, ideally eating the best french fries. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Jovian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jovianzaynePreorder the book, Soft Landings for Hard Days: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/781823/soft-landings-for-hard-days-by-jovian-zayne/Follow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  2. 18 Sept

    The Joy of Rage with Dr. Jenn

    In this episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, host Rachel Keener welcomes back Dr. Jennifer Mullan (Dr. Jenn) for a conversation about “Sacred Rage”, grief, burnout, and what it means to come home to ourselves. Dr. Jenn shares how writing her upcoming book on rage reshaped her understanding of rage, not as something to suppress or fix, but as a path toward love, transformation, and deeper self-awareness. She introduces the idea of “soul dehydration” to explore the deeper roots of burnout and asks us to consider where we may be missing joy, pleasure, rest, and community care. Together, Rachel and Dr. Jenn examines how systems like white supremacy and patriarchy shape our exhaustion, while offering another way forward: listening to what our rage is telling us and making room for rest, boundaries, joy, and fuller self-expression. Listen in for an honest conversation about rage, healing, and finding our way back to ourselves. More about Dr. Jennifer Mullan: Dr. Jennifer Mullan is a best-selling author and founder of The Center for Decolonizing Therapy®. Known as “the Rage Doctor” and trained as a psychologist, she is a bold, leading voice in reimagining mental health through the lens of colonization, generational trauma, and systemic harm. A highly sought-after, dynamic speaker, her work is both embodiment and invitation—awakening the wisdom of sacred rage and ancestral healing. Integrating somatics, neuroscience, and psycho-spiritual practice, she supports individuals and communities in reclaiming their wholeness. She lives on Lenape land in Northern New Jersey and is the author of the forthcoming book Sacred Rage. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Dr. Jenn on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/decolonizingtherapy and https://www.instagram.com/drjennifermullan/Follow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  3. 31 Aug

    National Grief Awareness Day Special: Sara Bareilles on Grief, Vulnerability, and Joy

    Revisiting our conversation with Sara Bareilles on grief, loss, and finding your way through. In honor of National Grief Awareness Day, we’re revisiting our conversation with Sara Bareilles, originally released for World Mental Health Day. Sara joined us for an honest and deeply human conversation about grief, loss, mental health, and the many ways we learn to live with what we’ve lost. She reminds us that grief isn’t something we simply move on from. It’s something we carry, make space for, and learn to move alongside. As Sara enters a new chapter with her upcoming documentary Good Grief, new music, and a forthcoming tour, we’re returning to this conversation because some stories continue to meet us exactly where we are. Originally released for World Mental Health Day. – More about Sara Bareilles: Sara Bareilles is an award-winning singer, songwriter, actor, producer, activist, and New York Times best-selling author whose accolades to date include two Grammy® Awards, three Tony® Award nominations, and three Primetime Emmy® Award nominations. As a recording artist and songwriter, she has sold more than 3 million albums and 15 million singles in the U.S., and her songs have been streamed more than 3.5 billion times worldwide. On Broadway, she composed music and lyrics for Waitress, stepping into the lead role both on Broadway and in the West End. Other musical theater credits include her Tony-nominated performance as ‘The Baker’s Wife’ in Stephen Sondheim and James Lapine’s Into the Woods, a song on the Tony Award-nominated score for SpongeBob SquarePants, and an Emmy Award-nominated appearance as Mary Magdalene in NBC's “Jesus Christ Superstar Live.” She plays Dawn Solano on the Emmy-nominated musical comedy series “Girls5eva”, the third season of which is streaming now on Netflix, and is currently at work on a musical theater adaptation of Meg Wolitzer’s best-selling novel The Interestings, alongside author Sarah Ruhl. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Sara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarabareillesFollow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  4. 14 Aug

    Feel Good Finance | Healing Your Relationship With Money with Aja Evans

    In this episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, host Rachel Keener sits down with licensed mental health counselor and financial therapist Aja Evans, author of Feel Good Finance, to explore the emotional side of money. Aja breaks down how our early experiences and beliefs about money shape the way we spend, save, avoid, and plan—and why taking care of your finances can be a form of self-care, especially for Black women. Rachel and Aja also unpack the shame and silence around money, emotional spending, and the pressure to have it all figured out. The conversation offers practical ways to build a healthier relationship with money, from checking in with your accounts to making small, consistent changes and finding other ways to cope that don’t involve spending. At its core, this episode is about creating a financial life that supports what matters most to you. Listen in for an honest conversation about money, self-worth, and the small steps that can lead to meaningful change. More about Aja Evans: Aja Evans is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, speaker, and writer specializing in Financial Therapy. With over a decade of experience, Aja is determined to get more people engaged in talking about their feelings about money. In addition to her practice, Aja serves on the board of the Financial Therapy Association, consults to FinTech companies, and is penning her debut book, Feel Good Finance. She has been featured in a variety of major news outlets including The New York Times, Business Insider, NerdWallet, and CNBC. Aja is on a mission to get more people engaged in living their best lives while attuning to their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors around money. Outside of work, you can find Aja chasing after her two young children as they hunt down the next delicious place to eat. Website: https://ajaevanscounseling.com/ – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Aja on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ajaetherapy/Follow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  5. 17 Jul

    High Functioning, Low Battery with Nina Westbrook

    In this episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, host Rachel Keener is joined by licensed marriage and family therapist, entrepreneur, and Nebbi founder Nina Westbrook for a conversation about what it means to be "high functioning, low battery." Drawing from her experiences as a therapist, mom, and caregiver, Nina explores the often-overlooked signs of burnout—especially among Black women who are expected to keep going no matter the cost. She explains why real recovery isn't found in quick fixes, but in small, sustainable habits, honest emotional check-ins, and learning to ask for help. Together, Rachel and Nina discuss setting boundaries without guilt, redefining strength, and making mental health support more accessible through tools like Nebbi. Their conversation offers practical insights for anyone trying to care for themselves while caring for everyone else. Listen in for a thoughtful discussion on burnout, self-awareness, and building a more sustainable approach to mental wellness. More about Nina Westbrook: As a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, entrepreneur, and advocate, Nina is deeply passionate about erasing the stigma around mental health. She has been featured in The New York Times, Goop, Oprah Daily, BET, ESSENCE, Marie Claire, and SHAPE, and has shared her expertise on TED, The Jennifer Hudson Show, and The Tamron Hall Show. Beyond her clinical work, Nina creates opportunities for connection and reflection. She is the co-founder of Nebbi, a wellness app designed for the emotional grey zone—the space between crisis and wellness where most of us live. Nebbi offers 60-second check-ins using evidence-based tools to support high-functioning individuals in navigating everyday emotional challenges. She is also the creator of the Do Tell! Conversation Card Game, designed to spark meaningful discussions on relationships, intimacy, and self-awareness. Additionally, she hosts the Do Tell Relationship Podcast and the Bene Moments of Mindfulness Podcast, where she offers evidence-based insights on cultivating happiness, personal growth, and deeper human connections. Her shows have featured thought-provoking and candid conversations with esteemed guests, including Gabrielle Union, Kevin Hart, Dr. Ramani Durvasula, Tamera Mowry-Housley, Jennifer Fisher, Malin Åkerman, Kier Gaines, and many more. In addition to her professional endeavors, Nina is a dedicated wife and mother of three, balancing her commitment to family with her mission to support others in their wellness journeys. She also serves on the Advisory Board of The Russell Westbrook Why Not? Foundation and most recently became a member of the UCLA Resnick Neuropsychiatric Hospital board. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Nina on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ninawestbrookFollow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  6. 4 Jun

    Healing Through Rage & Is God Is with Aleshea Harris

    In this powerful episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, host Rachel Keener sits down with playwright and director Aleshea Harris to discuss her film adaptation of Is God Is and the stories Black women are rarely given space to tell. Aleshea shares how the film became a way to explore rage, grief, justice, and healing through the lives of twin sisters on a mythic journey. Drawing inspiration from Greek tragedy while centering Black voices and experiences, she creates a world where Black women can be complex, vulnerable, angry, and fully human. Rachel and Aleshea also discuss the role of humor alongside pain, the challenges of releasing deeply personal work, and the importance of protecting mental health as an artist. Together, they reflect on how rage can become a catalyst for self-advocacy, change, and liberation, and why community remains essential through it all. Listen in for a thoughtful conversation on storytelling, creativity, mental health, and the power of making space for the full range of Black women’s experiences. More about Aleshea Harris: Aleshea Harris is an award-winning playwright, T.V. writer and filmmaker. Her critically-acclaimed play, Is God Is, premiered at Soho Repertory Theatre, won the Relentless Award, an OBIE award for playwriting, and the Helen Merrill Playwriting Award. A film version adapted and directed by Harris is slated for wide release on May 15, 2026 under Amazon MGM’s prestigious Orion label. Her ritual response to anti-Black violence, What to Send Up When It Goes Down, was featured in American Theatre Magazine and received a special commendation from the Blackburn Prize. After a successful New York city run, the piece toured to D.C. and Boston. On Sugarland, a sprawling adaptive response to the ancient Greek play, Philoctetes, was a Pulitzer Prize Finalist and winner of the Kesselring Prize. Harris has also been awarded the Windham-Campbell Literary Prize, Hermitage Greenfield Prize, Alpert Award, Horton Foote Award, Samuel French Award and an Arts and Letters Award in Literature from the American Academy of Arts and Letters. She is a two-time MacDowell Fellow and has enjoyed residencies at the Hermitage Artist Retreat, Hedgebrook, SPACE on Ryder Farms and Casa Ecco on Lake Como via the HawthorndenFoundation. She’s been featured in VOGUE and the NEW YORKER.  – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 26,936 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Aleshea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aleshea.harris/Follow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  7. 15 May

    Urgent and Important with Stacey Abrams

    In this episode of The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation Podcast, host Rachel Keener sits down with author, political leader, and voting rights advocate Stacey Abrams for a thoughtful conversation on creativity, worry, and the mental health of Black women. Stacey reflects on how reading and writing became tools for processing emotion, exploring ideas, and imagining new possibilities from an early age. She shares how fiction, from romance novels to legal thrillers, gives her space to work through anger, heartbreak, and complexity while pushing back against the expectation that Black women must always be perfect, resilient, and responsible. Rachel and Stacey also discuss what Stacey calls being a “professional worrier,” reframing worry as both reflection and action in service of change. From using creativity as emotional release to finding grounding in small daily rituals, Stacey offers an honest look at what it means to care for yourself while carrying the weight of leadership and responsibility. Listen in for a grounded conversation on storytelling, mental health, creativity, and making space for imperfection. More about Stacey Abrams: Stacey Abrams is a New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur and political leader. She served as Minority Leader in the Georgia House of Representatives, and she was the first Black woman to become gubernatorial nominee for a major party in United States history. Abrams has devoted her career to democracy protection, voting rights, and effective public policy. She has also co-founded successful companies, including a financial services firm, an energy and infrastructure consulting firm, and the media company, Sage Works Productions, Inc. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 13,000 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/donorbox/Follow Stacey on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/staceyabramsFollow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

  8. 17 Apr

    Motherhood Is a Hot A** Mess: Sophia Roe on identity shifts, Black maternal health, and the reality of the fourth trimester

    In honor of Black Maternal Health Week, host Rachel Keener sits down with chef and storyteller Sophia Roe for a raw, necessary conversation on the systemic neglect of Black mothers. Sophia pulls back the curtain on the "fourth trimester," contrasting the medical system’s singular focus on "saving the baby" with the pervasive lack of support for a mother’s physical and mental recovery.  From the hurdles of finding trusted Black providers and navigating insurance barriers to the realities of postpartum anxiety, she reframes the journey of motherhood as a site for radical self-love and informed advocacy. By rejecting the pressure of perfectionism and embracing the "village", including doulas, midwives, and partners, Sophia encourages Black women to prioritize their own safety and rest, proving that being honest and "a hot mess in public" is its own powerful form of resistance. Take a moment to listen for an unfiltered look at the journey of Black motherhood. More about Sophia Roe: Sophia Roe is a James Beard Award winning chef, writer, founder of Apartment Miso and Emmy-Award nominated TV host known for her distinct focus on honesty, diversity and inclusivity. Her passion for food has always been connected to an understanding that some people have access to nutritious foods, while others simply and problematically do not. This duality is the foundation for Sophia’s work: celebrating the beauty and art within her cooking, while creating resources to advance food justice, building more sustainable and equitable systems, while combatting the systemic structures that leave so many without the resources they so desperately require. – The Unfolding: Presented by The Loveland Foundation podcast is an additional resource not only to the public but also to our therapy fund cohort members. The Loveland Foundation therapy fund and resources are only made possible through support from our community.  At The Loveland Foundation, we are committed to showing up for communities of color in unique and powerful ways, with a particular focus on Black women and girls. Our resources and initiatives are collaborative and they prioritize opportunity, access, validation, and healing. Since our founding, the Therapy Fund has provided financial support for therapy to over 13,000 Black women, girls, and non-binary individuals across the country. Links: Join The Abundance Collective: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/abundanceSupport the show: https://give.thelovelandfoundation.org/give/436656/#!/donation/checkoutFollow Sophia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophia_roe/Learn more about Sophia’s work:https://iamsophiaroe1.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=webhttps://www.iamsophiaroe.com/https://carriagehousebirth.com/https://www.tinyhood.com/category/expectinghttps://birthsmarter.com/nycFollow The Loveland Foundation on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelovelandfoundation/Visit the Loveland Foundation’s website: https://thelovelandfoundation.org/Support the show

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A network of conversations grounded in identifying abundance in us all. At the heart of these dialogues, two people are meeting, in a distilled moment, and process, with gratitude. Showing up for the journey to receive and give— showing up for reciprocity— knowledge that we do not always emphasize in Western cultures but need to in order to fully divulge and embrace the complicated nature of self. It is in these rituals of nourishing the spirit that we can also prioritize community, compassion, and responsibility. The Unfolding is a gift to embrace wholeness, together.

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