She Sells He Sells

Krista and Brian Demcher
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Most people think selling is something you do at work, but Krista and Brian Demcher have spent nearly three decades proving otherwise - in corporate sales rooms, entrepreneurial ventures, and over 25 years of marriage and raising a family, which is honestly where the real persuasion happens. Every week on this sales and communication podcast, they bring one bold idea worth buying and walk you through the story behind it, the case for it, and the pushback against it - so by the end, you don't just know where you stand, you understand exactly how you got there. Think of it as a persuasion and storytelling masterclass disguised as a really good conversation. Because a good idea is only as good as your ability to sell it! Sales skills are life skills...and this show is where you learn them. New episodes every Monday.

  1. 5 days ago

    223. Everything You Need to Know About Sales You Can Learn From Tommy Boy

    Not long ago Krista was building a keynote around a message she teaches constantly: be authentic, use your own voice, say things the way you would actually say them. She asked Brian if there was a clip or a story that could land that point. He thought immediately of Tommy Boy — the scene where Big Tom Callahan closes a room full of buyers with a line about T-bones and butchers, and the later scene where Tommy, now running his late father's company, tries to borrow that exact line and butchers it instead. Krista used both clips on stage. It was a massive hit. She's using it again. But Brian's case goes further than one scene. He argues the whole 80-minute Chris Farley masterpiece is a sales curriculum hiding inside a road-trip comedy. Authenticity: customers smell a phony, and borrowed words don't land the same way in your mouth — something both Brian and Krista learned the hard way early in their careers, him selling Dermabond, her selling jewelry, both of them writing down someone else's script and wondering why it fell flat. Hard work and territory planning: Tommy and Richard with a paper map, no GPS, figuring out how to maximize face time across every auto parts distributor in Ohio — which in a digital world becomes the question of where your effort actually drives return, and what opportunity cost you're paying for the shiny thing you're considering. Resilience and objection handling: Tommy hears an enormous number of no's, and you watch him mature from fleeing the room at the first pushback to validating a customer's concern and then reframing it — which is exactly what he's doing in the (extremely gross, per Krista) guaranteed-box bit. Nobody has a 100% close rate. Nobody. And then the scene Brian thinks matters most: the diner. Kitchen's closed, Tommy wants wings, and he gets them — not with a pitch, but by being a human being having a bad day in front of another human being. People don't buy products. They buy personal connection. Richard says it out loud in the movie, and it's still the whole game. The counter-argument, of course, is the canon: Glengarry Glen Ross, Wolf of Wall Street, always be closing, coffee's for closers. Brian's take is that those films take one true thing — persuasion matters — and pump it full of steroids until it becomes the only thing. That's not the sales team you'd want to build. Tommy Boy gets you to the same lessons with more laughs and less bro club. If you sell anything, lead a sales team, are looking for a training that people will actually enjoy, or have somehow never seen Tommy Boy — this one is for you. Do you buy it? IN THIS EPISODE [0:12] The Sell: Tommy Boy is the greatest sales movie of all time (and the live revision to a better sell) [1:29] Locking it in: everything I needed to know about sales, I learned by watching Tommy Boy [1:38] Krista on being married to a man who can quote entire movies but not tonight's schedule [2:48] The Story: building a keynote about authenticity and needing the perfect clip [4:38] The premise — Big Tom Callahan, Callahan Auto Parts, Sandusky, Ohio [5:40] The T-bone and the butcher: the line that closes the room [6:20] Tommy inherits the company and tries to borrow his father's words [7:10] The line goes sideways — and why inauthentic language always does [9:42] Krista on Dermabond, jewelry, and copying someone else's script [11:42] Lesson one: customers smell phonies [12:09] Lesson two: hard work — the road trip, the '67 Plymouth GTX [13:39] Lesson three: territory planning, and what it looks like without a paper map [15:38] Opportunity cost: the thing you can't do because you chose something else [16:24] Lesson four: resilience and hearing no before you hear yes [17:30] The guarantee objection and the most disgusting great line in sales cinema [18:39] Why that's actually textbook objection handling: validate, then reframe [20:00] Lesson five: personal connection — the diner, the closed kitchen, and the wings [22:15] The Stakes: what the Glengarry / Wolf of Wall Street canon gets wrong [24:31] Believing wholeheartedly in your solution is what makes you persuasive [26:42] Scarcity is an economic principle, and Chris Farley isn't making any more movies [27:07] Krista's live audience test: 75% of hands went up [29:02] Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and the Tommy Boy revival Brian may be starting [29:24] The Success: a sales training your team will actually thank you for KEY QUOTE "I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it." — Big Tom Callahan (and the line Tommy should never have tried to borrow) MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Tommy Boy (1995) — Chris Farley, David Spade, and Callahan Auto Parts of Sandusky, Ohio Glengarry Glen Ross — "always be closing," "coffee's for closers" The Wolf of Wall Street The Pursuit of Happyness Billy Madison Death of a Salesman Krista's keynote on authenticity and finding your own voice The opportunity cost principle Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  2. 31 Aug

    222. Your Resume Isn't Your Legacy: What Dolly Parton's Death Taught Us About Being Remembered

    Your resume is not your legacy. That's the idea Krista Demcher is selling in this special solo episode of She Sells He Sells: Ideas Worth Buying — inspired by the death of Dolly Parton on August 25th, and by a post Krista wrote on a whim that ended up read on SiriusXM, shared by Miss Rachel, and viewed nearly six million times. Krista starts with the trophy case, and it's staggering: roughly 3,000 songs written, 11 Grammys, an Emmy, two Oscar nods, a Tony nod, 13 CMA Awards, and a place in three different Halls of Fame. But when Dolly died, that isn't what filled anyone's feed. People weren't mourning a resume. They were mourning a person — and Krista, an admitted Enneagram Three achiever, sat with what that actually means for the rest of us, who will never have a trophy case like Dolly's. She tells her own Dolly origin story — a chance stop at the Dolly Parton Experience at Dollywood in 2018, not knowing much about Dolly beyond 9 to 5, and walking out a forever fan enough to name a Christmas tree after her. She reads the actual post she wrote the morning after Dolly's death, walks through why it took off the way it did, and shares some of the comments that stopped her in her tracks — including the one that captures the whole idea: "Dolly loved you back." From there, Krista lays out three things she thinks we're actually supposed to take from a life like Dolly's: how your struggle can become your legacy (the Imagination Library, built because her father never learned to read), why you can't take yourself too seriously (the Dolly Parton look-alike contest she entered — and lost), and how what's meant for you won't pass you by (the story of turning down Elvis, and what came back around twenty years later through Whitney Houston). She also tackles the pushback head-on: yes, Dolly could do things most of us can't, because of her money and fame. But the scale is different — the instinct isn't. And she closes with three quiet, mostly unknown stories that prove it. If you've spent the last week scrolling through Dolly tributes, wondering why none of it is about the music — this episode is for you. IN THIS EPISODE [0:08] Welcome back — the Sell: your resume is not your legacy [1:37] Why Dolly's death, and this viral post, felt too important to skip [4:01] The trophy case: 3,000 songs, 11 Grammys, and 190 career wins [5:53] The pivot — what people are actually mourning, and who Dolly really was [8:15] Krista's own Dolly awakening: Dollywood, the Dolly Parton Experience, and a Christmas tree named Dolly [12:41] Writing the post — the exact words Krista wrote on Threads [15:01] The post goes viral: 5.9 million views, and the comments that stopped her in her tracks [17:51] "Dolly loved you back" — the comment that captures the whole idea [20:04] The Solution, part 1: your struggle can become your legacy (the Imagination Library) [21:41] The Solution, part 2: don't take yourself too seriously (the look-alike contest she lost) [24:04] The Solution, part 3: what's meant for you won't pass you by (Elvis, Whitney Houston, and "the house that Whitney built") [26:09] The Stakes: the pushback — "we can't all be Dolly" — and why the scale is different but the instinct isn't [28:34] The Success: living this out at every scale, quietly, for decades [30:15] The band uniforms, the Buddy Program, and a driver's story nobody was filming [32:23] The close: do you buy it? KEY QUOTE "Fame didn't build her character. The character was there, and fame allowed her to amplify it." — Krista Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE The Dollywood Foundation's Imagination Library The Dolly Parton Experience at Dollywood Dolly's "I Will Always Love You" story — Elvis, Whitney Houston, and "the house that Whitney built" The Dolly Parton look-alike contest The Buddy Program (launched at Dollywood, 1991) Sevier County High School marching band uniforms Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  3. 24 Aug

    221. Flattering Is A Myth With Ava Demcher

    Flattering is a myth. That is the idea Ava Demcher is selling in this episode and if the name sounds familiar, it should. Krista' and Brian's oldest daughter is back for her third appearance on the show, and her first in the rebranded studio she helped conceptualize (creative direction, color palette, and one $3 Helvetica license included). The idea was born during dress try-ons for the vow renewal Ava planned for her parents. Krista put on a dress, winced, and said the thing every woman has said in a fitting room: "this is not flattering." Ava's response: flattering is a myth. She has the receipts to back it up. At 19, Ava is a bridal stylist who has worked with more than 150 brides, and she swears the word "flattering" comes up in 90% of her appointments. From the plus-size bride told she needs an A-line that hides everything, to the thin bride told a ballgown will swallow her up, Ava has watched the same idea hold women back from what she considers the actual point of fashion: looking cool. Her case: "flattering" is really about hiding - rolls, lumps, arms, stomachs, anything that makes you a human being - while accentuating is about showing off what you've got. (Spoiler: this is the distinction that finally sells Krista.) Ava walks through why getting dressed should start with goals instead of rules, why mass-produced clothing was never made for your body anyway, and why the body-type formulas fall apart the moment you look at history: plump was flattering in the Middle Ages, thin is flattering now, and a standard that changes with every era isn't a standard at all. It's a myth - "like a unicorn, but less cute." Along the way: the double standard (nobody asks if a man's blazer flatters him), the record sales summer Ava just had at K&B Bridal and the honesty-plus-authority approach behind it, the millennial bride vs. the Gen Z bride, hard-earned advice for parents of preteen girls (there is a difference between unflattering and inappropriate, and a reason criticism stings most from the people who love you), and the World Cup surprise TikTok that racked up 4.5 million views and a Daily Mail headline. If you have ever put something back on the rack because it "wasn't flattering," if you're shopping for a wedding dress, or if you're raising a girl who is about to walk downstairs in an outfit you have opinions about, this one is for you. Do you buy it? IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome back — Ava's third appearance, and her first in the studio she helped rebrand [2:12] The Sell: flattering is a myth [3:25] The Story: the vow renewal dress try-on where the idea was born [4:17] The double standard: nobody asks whether a man's outfit is flattering [5:55] 150+ brides — and the word "flattering" in 90% of appointments [7:19] The Solution starts with goals: cool, classic, chic — not rules [8:24] What about the bride who wants her body to look a certain way? [12:08] Pear, apple, hourglass: do the body-type formulas hold up? [14:33] Everyday clothes aren't as kind as wedding dresses [16:20] Mass-produced clothing was never made for your body [18:41] From the Middle Ages to today: "flattering" changes because it's mythical [21:04] The pushback: sometimes clothes do flatter you, right? [22:30] Flattering hides. Accentuating shows off. The distinction that changes everything [26:11] "You can see my stomach roll" — reframing the things we pinpoint on ourselves [29:39] Ava's record sales summer at K&B Bridal: honesty, leadership, and owning the expert role [34:33] Talking goals (not flattering) inside appointments — and why fashion is art [39:10] Dressing for the male gaze — and the credit-card perspective check [41:18] Has she always been this confident? From champion-sweatshirt sheep to now [44:22] The only way out is through: how the worst preteen years built the whatever mindset [54:04] The Stakes for parents: what to say (and not say) when your daughter's outfit worries you [58:19] Why it hurts more from a parent than from a mean girl [1:02:03] The verdict: Krista buys it — accentuating vs. flattering was the tipping point [1:05:53] Ava's viral World Cup TikTok: 4.5 million views and a Daily Mail headline KEY QUOTE "I think the difference between showing off your body and something being flattering is that flattering attempts to hide things. Showing off your body accentuates things." — Ava Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE K&B Bridal — where Ava has styled 150+ brides Ava's earlier appearances: Navigating the Teenage Years with Ava Demcher, Parts One & Two Mel Robbins' "Let Them" theory The Met Gala "fashion is art" theme Storyful and the Daily Mail picking up Ava's viral World Cup surprise video Connect with Ava: TikTok: @avademch Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  4. 17 Aug

    220. Motherhood Is Your Greatest Competitive Advantage with Sharon Macey

    Motherhood is your greatest competitive advantage. That's the idea Sharon Macey is selling this episode, and she's got the résumé to back it up — literally. Sharon spent years in the New York advertising world as a copywriter and associate creative director before stepping away to raise her three kids full time. Almost twenty years later, with her kids grown and flown, she had a realization: the skills she built running a household weren't separate from her professional life. They were the most advanced version of it. Radical empathy, split-second decision making, crisis management, negotiating with a four-year-old who won't leave the park — none of that shows up on a résumé, but all of it is exactly what makes someone effective in a leadership role. Her story starts with a shelf. Sharon describes putting her advertising career "on a shelf" the day she became a stay-at-home mom, assuming those skills were on pause. They weren't. She was still pitching, still negotiating, still coming up with the one-liner that would anchor a school fundraiser — she just didn't have a name for it yet. That reframe is what eventually led her to found the Mom To MORE® podcast, now a top 2% globally ranked show, built to amplify the stories of women reinventing themselves after their at-home years. Sharon and Krista get into exactly how to translate two decades of parenting into language a hiring manager or a client will understand — starting with a notes-app exercise anyone can do tonight. They also tackle the two biggest objections Sharon hears: "I'm too old" and "I've lost my former skill set" — and why neither one holds up. If you've ever felt like your years at home don't belong on your résumé, or you're staring down a career pivot and don't know where to start — this one's for you. Do you buy it? IN THIS EPISODE  [0:00] The Sell: motherhood is your greatest competitive advantage [0:45] Sharon's advertising career, and putting it "on a shelf" for motherhood [2:15] The Story: three kids, twenty years, and the moment it clicked [4:30] Objection #1 — "I'm too old" [6:00] Objection #2 — "I've lost my former skill set" [7:30] The Solution: the notes-app exercise for finding your hidden résumé [9:15] Naming your "tech boob" moments and pushing forward anyway [11:00] Asking your spouse, kids, and friends what you're actually good at [13:00] The Stakes: apologizing for a resume gap vs. owning it [15:30] How Sharon built Mom To MORE® from one interview to a top 2% podcast [18:00] Three guest stories: from SAHM to CEO, franchise founder, and nonprofit builder [21:30] The Success: walking into a room ahead, not behind [23:15] The close: motherhood as competitive advantage — do you buy it? KEY QUOTE "Motherhood is not a detour from any sort of competitive edge. It is your competitive edge." — Sharon Macey MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE The notes-app exercise for uncovering your hidden résumé Sharon's free guide: 15 Mom Skills That Are Actually Business Superpowers Susan DiMarco — stay-at-home mom to CEO, featured in USA Today Rae Alana Reiner — built a national children's consignment franchise from her living room Terry Grail — founder of Enchanted Makeovers, helping women rebuild after homelessness Sharon's free 20-minute mentorship session Connect with Sharon: 🌐 Website: momtomore.com 📸 Instagram/Facebook/Pinterest: @momtomore ▶️ YouTube: @momtomore Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  5. 10 Aug

    219. In-Office Beats Remote Work: A 20-Year Remote Employee Changes His Mind

    The in-office work environment is better than remote, and it's more effective. That is the idea Brian is selling in this episode , and he's flying solo to do it. Bold move from a guy who worked remote for nearly twenty years, often for companies in entirely different time zones. But eight months into his first true in-office role, Brian is a convert — and he's making the full case. His story starts with three customers from three completely different organizations, each flagging the same problem on the horizon. Brian brought it back to his team, talked it through across the table, and watched an engineer whiteboard and build a working demo platform — in a single afternoon. Would that have happened in a remote environment? Eventually, maybe. In an afternoon? No way. Brian's case cuts both ways. For leaders: if you're mandating a return to office, it's on you to build an environment people actually want to be in — good chairs, real refreshments, a layout that isn't 400 cubicles under fluorescent lights. For employees: stop dwelling on the commute and the parking, and get honest about what remote work is costing you — mentorship, relationship building, faster answers, team chemistry, and a clearer line between work and home. He also brings the numbers. Roughly 40% of the American workforce works for companies with fewer than 50 people, where two or three bad culture fits can mean nearly 10% turnover. 92% of employees say culture is either why they stay or why they're job hunting. And replacing a single employee can cost anywhere from 50% to 200% of their annual salary. If people are your most valuable resource, the office is where you invest in them. If you are a leader weighing an RTO policy, an employee who's grown very attached to pajama pants on Zoom, or anyone still fighting the return-to-office battle — this one is for you. Do you buy it? IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] The Sell: in-office work is better than remote (Brian flies solo) [0:45] The Story: three customers, three companies, one common problem [1:45] From hallway conversation to working demo platform — in one afternoon [3:00] Twenty years remote, eight months in office: Brian's conversion [4:00] The Solution, leader POV: build an office people want to be in (not a 1980s cubicle farm) [5:15] The Solution, employee POV: weigh what you're gaining, not just the commute [6:30] "Sally, are you the person?" — why remote slows every answer down [7:45] Fewer distractions and a clearer line between work and home [8:30] The Stakes, leader POV: slower teams, weaker chemistry, underinvested people [11:00] The Stakes, employee POV: the mentorship and collaboration you're missing [13:30] Why personal connection changes how willing teammates are to help [15:15] The Success, leader POV: small business math — culture, retention, and what turnover really costs [20:15] The Success, employee POV: faster answers, real connection, less isolation [22:15] The close: in-office > remote — do you buy it? KEY QUOTE "If you're telling me that the people in your organization are your greatest resource, then investing in those people would likely have the best outcome." — Brian Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE The demo platform built in one afternoon — the story that started it all The SBA definition of a small business, and why ~40% of Americans work for companies with fewer than 50 people 92% of employees say culture is why they stay — or why they're leaving What it really costs to replace an employee (50–200% of their annual salary) The blazer-with-pajama-pants Zoom uniform Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  6. 3 Aug

    218. Success Has Seasons And Your Business Should Too: 24 Years In Real Estate With Karen Cooper

    Success has seasons, and your business should too. That is the idea Karen Cooper is selling in this episode of She Sells He Sells: Ideas Worth Buying, and after 24 years in real estate, she has lived every single one of them. Karen's argument is this: we readily accept that our lives have natural seasons, but we refuse to acknowledge that our businesses do too. We think we have to keep doing things the way we did five, ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. That's not how it works, and pretending otherwise is a fast track to real estate agent burnout. She would know. Ten years into her career, with three young children at home, a husband working shift work as a career fireman, and 50 to 60 home sales a year, Karen was running with her hair on fire. She remembers standing on the porch at her son's birthday party, on the phone with an upset seller, watching her life unfold in front of her without actually participating in it. Her first attempt at a fix - trading production for a managing broker role, the "traditional" next step in real estate - turned out to be a colossal mistake. She traded one version of burnout for another. What actually changed everything was becoming open: open to what her business could look like, open to what this career could look like, open to redefining success as more than a number. That openness led to founding Empowering Women in Real Estate, a community that started as a free Facebook group 12 years ago and now includes over 42,000 women in real estate across the industry. Karen and Krista get into what it takes to let go of the version of success you've worked so hard to build, why "I don't know the answer, but I can point you to someone who does" is the ultimate confidence, how to step off the speeding train of making more money to fund a bigger life that requires making more money, and the question to ask yourself when you don't even know what season you're in anymore. If you are a real estate agent, a business owner, or anyone who only knows success as more - more clients, more volume, more everything - this one is for you. IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome — Karen Cooper and the idea worth buying [0:11] The Sell: success has seasons and your business should too [1:03] The Story: a pharma layoff, a for-sale-by-owner deal, and the start of 24 years in real estate [2:32] The MLS on a disc: what the industry looked like before social media [3:35] What Karen attributes her success to — consistency, the basics, and becoming open [5:36] The colossal mistake: burnout, three young kids, 50-60 homes a year, and the managing broker detour [7:00] Watching your life unfold from the porch — the birthday party phone call [8:34] The epiphany and what came next [11:06] The friction of letting go when you're a driven achiever [13:55] "I don't know, but I can point you to someone who does" — the ultimate confidence [15:05] Empowering Women in Real Estate: from free Facebook group to 42,000+ women [18:33] What it means for success itself to have seasons [20:47] The speeding train: bigger income, bigger life, and how to step off [23:57] Living your values out loud on social media — morning coffee and bare feet over high heels [26:26] The Solution: one concrete first step for anyone who only knows success as more [30:21] To the woman who's scared to walk away from what she built [31:19] The question to ask when you don't know what season you're in [33:05] All about the [CONFERENCE NAME] — where Krista is speaking [35:13] How to connect with Karen and join the community KEY QUOTE "It's not just success in terms of numbers. It's also success in terms of personal fulfillment. And I think that is really the key." — Karen Cooper MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Empowering Women in Real Estate — Karen's community of 42,000+ women in the real estate industry 6th Annual Empowering Women in Real Estate Conference September 29-30, 2026 Dulles, VA Register here: www.empoweringwomeninrealestate.com/conference-2026 Connect with Karen: Website: www.empoweringwomeninrealestate.com Instagram: @karen.w.cooper Facebook Community: Empowering Women in Real Estate Connect with us: Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  7. 27 Jul

    217. Family Travel Is the Best Way to Spend Your Money

    Family travel is the best way to spend your money. That's the idea Krista and Brian are selling this week, fresh off back-to-back family vacations — an eight-day family trip to the Dominican Republic for their 25th wedding anniversary, followed immediately by their annual family vacation to the Outer Banks. The story centers on Las Terrenas, a quieter, less touristed stretch of the Dominican Republic's northern coast — chosen specifically for family travel that offered a mix of relaxation and real cultural immersion, instead of the big all-inclusive resort experience. Krista and Brian talk through the decision to bring the whole family instead of going just the two of them for their anniversary, working with a travel agency (Mango Tree Travel) for the first time, and the moments that made the trip — including their kids being interviewed by a Dominican news crew on July 4th, and a surprise vow renewal the kids planned and carried out themselves. But this episode isn't just a trip recap — it's the real case for why family travel is worth prioritizing over material spending, including the home renovations they've put off for years to keep taking these family vacations. They back it up with research: a Cornell psychologist's decades of work showing people are happier from experiences than possessions, and studies on how family vacations build bonding, communication, and connection. They also tackle the objections head-on: kids won't remember the trip, wouldn't a couples-only vacation be more relaxing, and isn't family travel only possible if you have money to burn. If you've ever wondered whether the splurge on a family trip is worth it over the kitchen reno or the new floors — this episode makes the case for family travel. IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome back — fresh off two weeks of vacation [~2:00] The Sell: family travel is the best way to spend your money [~3:00] Why Krista and Brian both believe this — pattern interrupts, and giving the kids a window into how other people live [~6:00] The Story: choosing Las Terrenas over Punta Cana, working with Mango Tree Travel for the first time [~9:00] The 4th of July interview, and how the kids became "DR famous" [~11:00] The Solution: prioritizing family travel means saying no to other things — the unrenovated kitchen, bathroom, and walkway [~14:00] Teaching kids that money is a series of trade-offs [~16:00] The research: Cornell's Thomas Gilovich on why experiences beat possessions, regardless of cost [~18:00] The "Best Vection Ever" story — a memory from a freezing, forgettable-sounding trip that turned out to be anything but [~20:00] The Stakes/objections: "kids won't remember it" and "wouldn't a couples trip be more relaxing?" [~25:00] The Success: the memories, the vow renewal, and why family travel is worth it [~27:00] Where to next — Banff, Switzerland, an African safari, or Paris? KEY QUOTE "You can make fun of each other on your couch in Forestville, Maryland, or you can make fun of each other in the beautiful blue sea in the Dominican Republic. That's where you're really going to remember it." — Krista Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Mango Tree Travel (not sponsored, but could be) Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic Cornell psychologist Thomas Gilovich's research on experiential vs. material happiness Research on family vacations and family cohesion/communication Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @shesellshesellspodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

  8. 20 Jul

    216. Everyone Is Creative: How to Rewire Your Brain in 5 Minutes a Day With Blythe Harris & Mallory May

    The Daily Creative co-founders make the case that creativity isn't a talent — it's a daily habit with science-backed benefits for stress, focus, and brain health. Want to be more creative? Science says you already are. This week's sell: everyone is creative — even the 75% of people who swear they aren't. Krista sits down with Blythe Harris and Mallory May, co-founders of the creative wellness platform Daily Creative and co-authors of the instant bestseller Daily Creative: The Five Minute Habit to Rewire Your Brain.  Blythe spent seventeen years as co-founder and chief creative officer of Stella & Dot Family Brands; Mallory spent twelve years as a VP at Sotheby's and has taught at Parsons School of Design. Together they've led creativity workshops for Chanel, Oprah Daily, Jefferies, and Rothy's — and they're on a mission to eliminate the phrase "I'm not creative" from the lexicon. Blythe's story starts in an unforgettable place: at 22, she was hit by a Mack truck in San Francisco, pronounced dead on arrival, resuscitated, and put through a grueling recovery. The thing that helped her process the trauma? Doodling. Not making art — just repetitive motion with her hands. Years later, the science of creativity would explain exactly why that worked, and why knitting, scribbling, and drawing calm the nervous system. The conversation digs into where "I'm not creative" actually comes from — school, shame, and comparison — and why the belief is factually wrong. A study commissioned by NASA tracked 1,600 kids from age five to adulthood: 98% tested at genius level for creativity at five, and only 5% still did by 25. Creativity isn't missing; it's unnourished.  The fix is what researchers call mini-C creativity: a few minutes of creative practice a day, no talent or blank canvas required. Naming colors. Noticing sounds. Walking your dog a different route. Eating with your non-dominant hand. And the benefits are real: recent research from Dr. Daisy Fancourt found that even a few minutes of creative activity a day measurably improves mental and physical wellbeing — lowering cortisol, building cognitive flexibility, helping prevent dementia, and even reducing bias. The New York Times just called creativity the fifth pillar of wellness. Krista shares how it's shown up in her own life since returning to ballet, and why this matters especially for midlife women in the sandwich generation. The conversation closes on the bigger picture: creativity as a tool for self-discovery, why AI and automation are making our brains lazy, and what the world could look like if everyone stopped saying "I'm not creative." KEY QUOTE "We're on a mission to eliminate the phrase 'I'm not creative' from the lexicon." — Blythe Harris & Mallory May IN THIS EPISODE 0:00 — The sell: everyone is creative 1:06 — Blythe's story: hit by a Mack truck at 22 2:00 — Doodling through trauma — before knowing the science 4:26 — COVID, Zoom school, and five-minute creativity exercises 5:58 — Why repetitive motion calms the nervous system 7:11 — Mallory's story: drawing at age two, 12 years at Sotheby's 8:49 — The leap from corporate to creative entrepreneur 9:10 — Marrying the maker and the moneymaker 11:20 — Teaching at Parsons and the class that changed everything 12:57 — Your creative fingerprint: noticing what you like 14:07 — Knowing what you DON'T like counts too 15:00 — Why the blank page is so intimidating 15:49 — The origin story of Blythe & Mallory 18:27 — Creativity beyond art: hair, writing, business 19:39 — Tattoo artists, DJs, florists — and mini-C creativity 20:23 — How the Daily Creative book was born (thanks, Wordle) 23:07 — Color naming, perfectionism, and Krista's favorite exercises 24:12 — The book on Krista's kitchen table — and family competition 26:17 — The NASA study: 98% at five, 5% by 25 28:30 — Can you get your creativity back? 28:43 — The Daisy Fancourt study: a few minutes a day is enough 29:48 — The New York Times and the fifth pillar of wellness 30:09 — Lower cortisol, cognitive flexibility, and less bias 30:48 — Krista's ballet story — creativity in real life 31:53 — Midlife women, the sandwich generation, and why this matters now 33:30 — Where "I'm not creative" comes from — school, shame, comparison 36:18 — AI, automation, and our increasingly lazy brains 37:48 — Is "I'm not creative" generational? 38:46 — What the world looks like if everyone embraces creativity 42:12 — About the book and where to get it 44:37 — Where to find Blythe & Mallory 45:05 — Wrap-up: do you buy it? CONNECT WITH BLYTHE & MALLORY → Daily Creative: The Five Minute Habit to Rewire Your Brain — available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bookshop.org → Free downloadable worksheets: dailycreative.com → Instagram: @daily__creative → Substack: @dailycreative Connect with us: Take the FREE Personal Brand Quiz: https://www.kristademcher.com/personal-brand-quiz Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

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Most people think selling is something you do at work, but Krista and Brian Demcher have spent nearly three decades proving otherwise - in corporate sales rooms, entrepreneurial ventures, and over 25 years of marriage and raising a family, which is honestly where the real persuasion happens. Every week on this sales and communication podcast, they bring one bold idea worth buying and walk you through the story behind it, the case for it, and the pushback against it - so by the end, you don't just know where you stand, you understand exactly how you got there. Think of it as a persuasion and storytelling masterclass disguised as a really good conversation. Because a good idea is only as good as your ability to sell it! Sales skills are life skills...and this show is where you learn them. New episodes every Monday.

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    Krista and Brian Demcher
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    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    225
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