“To me, equity is the ability for everybody to make the same mistakes with the same level of understanding.” - Valérie Cambronne What if intellectual property education wasn’t reserved for corporations, elite institutions, or people who already knew how the system worked? In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Valérie Cambronne, IP attorney, founder of LegallyBlack, and someone deeply committed to closing the IP literacy gap in underrepresented communities. What started as a conversation between two law school friends after hearing about young artists being exploited in the music industry, eventually became a nationwide nonprofit teaching students how to protect what they create. From candy-themed trademark workshops with high school students, to partnerships with Harvard University, MIT, Howard University School of Law, and the American Bar Association, Valérie is helping reshape who gets access to intellectual property education and why it matters. You’ll hear about: How one podcast episode about music exploitation inspired the formation of LegallyBlackWhy Valérie believes IP literacy should be treated and taught like financial literacyWhy so many creators and founders underestimate protecting their IPThe difference between obstacles and resistance, and why that mindset changed everythingBuilding a nonprofit while practicing law full-timeHow LegallyBlack grew through relationships, word-of-mouth, and momentumWhy IP matters for creators, influencers, startups, and studentsThe surprising intersection between Valérie’s nonprofit work and private practiceWhy business development is a long-term investmentThe vision for LegallyBlack chapters across the country (and eventually globally!)About Valérie Cambronne: Valérie Cambronne is an IP attorney and the Founder & Executive Director of LegallyBlack, a nonprofit organization dedicated to increasing IP literacy in underrepresented communities. Since launching in 2020, LegallyBlack has delivered free educational workshops across multiple states, reaching students through partnerships with schools, universities, and legal organizations nationwide. Valérie also runs her own IP practice, where she focuses on trademark counseling, brand protection, and helping creators and entrepreneurs understand the “why” behind intellectual property strategy. Learn More: Check out LegallyBlackThis episode is brought to you by: Vista ConsultingVista Consulting helps law firms navigate the rapidly shifting landscape of private equity and MSO-driven transactions. They serve as strategic advisors to firms preparing for acquisition, merger, or partnership, strengthening operations, aligning leadership, and pressure-testing financial performance. Their hands-on experience ensures firms enter the market organized, confident, and positioned to maximize value when it matters most for long-term success ahead. For more information, check out their Law Firm Owner’s Guide to PE Readiness here or explore Vista Consulting’s M&A advisory services for law firms considering a sale. Stay Connected: Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat! Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey