Transforming Relationships

Eric Spiegel and David Alter
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Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.

  1. 6 days ago

    Dr. Michael Yapko on Depression, Hypnosis, and How People Change

    "You're not your history. You're more than your history. And the question is, what more are you?" Dr. Michael Yapko has spent his career studying how people become trapped in patterns—and how psychotherapy and clinical hypnosis can help them discover new possibilities. In this episode of Transforming Relationships, Michael joins Dr. David Alter and Dr. Eric Spiegel for a provocative and deeply practical conversation about depression, hypnosis, relationships, and the process of therapeutic change. Michael explains why depression often keeps people oriented toward the past; why feelings, while important, are not always reliable guides for decision-making; and why he thinks psychotherapy is fundamentally about "pattern interruption and pattern building." He also explores why effective hypnosis is relational rather than simply a technique performed on someone, and how therapists can help clients develop concrete sequences for doing things they previously could not imagine themselves doing. The conversation also turns to artificial intelligence and psychotherapy. Michael discusses both the remarkable potential and current limitations of AI in mental health, particularly when it comes to emotional and relational context. And then there are the elephants. Michael shares the extraordinary story of being recruited by the San Diego Wild Animal Park (now the San Diego Zoo Safari Park) to study an expert elephant trainer, identify the largely intuitive patterns underlying his work, and translate them into teachable sequences. The project ultimately helped contribute to changes in how keepers safely work with elephants—while teaching Michael something profound about trust, consistency, relationships, and change. Dr. Michael D. Yapko is a clinical psychologist, internationally recognized authority on clinical hypnosis and depression, and the author of 16 books, including Breaking the Patterns of Depression, Depression Is Contagious, The Discriminating Therapist, and Trancework. Transforming Relationships How relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. Hosted by Dr. David Alter and Dr. Eric Spiegel. Subscribe to the Transforming Relationships newsletter:  transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe

    Dr. Michael Yapko on Depression, Hypnosis, and How People Change

  2. 23 Sept

    Inside the Therapy Room: Watching Change Unfold with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

    What does effective psychotherapy actually sound like in the room? In this second conversation with psychologist, psychoanalyst, author, and master clinician Dr. Mary Jo Peebles, we move from talking about psychotherapy to experiencing it in action. Through an extended therapy role play—and the conversation that follows —Mary Jo demonstrates the subtle, moment-to-moment work of psychotherapy: noticing what a person may not yet be able to notice themselves, staying with difficult emotions without rushing to make them disappear, working with shame and self-acceptance, and using the therapeutic relationship to create new possibilities for change. Along the way, we explore why relationship alone isn't enough; the importance of focus, repetition, and awareness; how therapists integrate ideas from different schools of psychotherapy; and the roles of empathy, tension, uncertainty, and the startle response in therapeutic change. Rather than offering a formula for good therapy, this episode gives listeners a rare opportunity to hear the process unfold in real time—and then step back with Mary Jo to understand what happened and why. In this episode: • Why the therapeutic relationship matters—but relationship alone isn't enough • The often-invisible skills of experienced therapists • Role Play: shame, self-acceptance, and the experience of being understood • How therapists synthesize different theoretical approaches • Empathy, tension, uncertainty, and the startle response • Reflections on Mary Jo's upcoming book Whether you're a therapist, a student of psychology, someone who has been in therapy, or simply curious about what happens between therapist and client, this episode offers an unusually close look at psychotherapy from the inside. Subscribe to Transforming Relationships for conversations about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. Join our free Substack for new episodes, reflections, and updates: https://transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe

    Inside the Therapy Room: Watching Change Unfold with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

  3. 12 Jun

    The Self Divided and United with Wendy Lemke

    Psychologist Wendy Lemke joins us for a conversation about ego state therapy, trauma, hypnosis, and the different parts of ourselves that shape how we think, feel, and relate to others. Through discussion and live role-play demonstrations, Wendy shows how therapists help people work with inner conflict, reconnect with disowned parts of themselves, and develop greater internal balance. Topics include trauma, dissociation, attachment, hypnosis, internal parts, emotional healing, and the surprising ways therapy can help people feel more connected to themselves and others.

    The Self Divided and United with Wendy Lemke

  4. 22 May

    Life Amid War — Voices From Ukraine

    What is it like to live psychologically under the constant threat of war? In this episode, Ukrainian psychologists Volodymyr Voloshin and Olha Serha share firsthand experiences of living and working in Ukraine during ongoing conflict. We explore trauma, resilience, relationships, uncertainty, and the emotional realities of adapting to life under chronic danger. The conversation examines how war reshapes identity, daily life, and mental health — while also revealing the power of connection, community, and hope in sustaining resilience. A moving discussion about survival, healing, and the human experience during war. Subscribe to the newsletter for episode updates and reflections: https://www.transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe Watch the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships

  5. 5 May

    What Creates Change in Psychotherapy? | Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

    What creates real change in psychotherapy? In this episode, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter speak with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles, clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst, about the deeper processes that drive transformation in therapy. Moving beyond technique-driven and manualized approaches, Dr. Peebles explores psychotherapy as a dynamic, relational process—one shaped by uncertainty, mutual influence, and the evolving interaction between therapist and patient. The conversation examines how therapeutic change emerges over time through moments of connection, rupture and repair, and shifts in perception and expectation. It also highlights the importance of "scaffolding" in early treatment, the role of relational safety, and the neurobiological foundations of lasting psychological change. If you'd like episode updates, reflections, and future conversations delivered directly to you, join the email list on Substack: https://transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe Topics include: The limits of manualized and protocol-driven therapy Psychotherapy as a relational, emergent process The role of uncertainty and ambiguity in clinical work Rupture, repair, and the development of trust Scaffolding and early therapeutic structure Perception, expectation, and psychological change Neurobiological perspectives on transformation This episode offers a nuanced exploration of psychotherapy for clinicians, students, and anyone interested in how meaningful change unfolds within human relationships. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Mary Jo Peebles 02:54 The Complexity of Psychotherapy 05:54 Trans-Theoretical Approaches in Therapy 08:47 Siloed Practices in Psychology 11:55 The Role of Identity in Therapy 15:07 Understanding Patient Experiences 18:07 Role Play: Navigating Panic Attacks 20:54 Exploring Uniqueness vs. Commonality in Therapy 24:11 Role Play: Attachment and Connection 27:06 The Therapeutic Alliance and Patient Engagement 36:05 The Emergence of Change 39:02 Navigating Emotional Spaces 43:51 Understanding the Therapeutic Process 46:17 The Role of Ambiguity in Therapy 48:09 Scaffolding in Early Sessions 52:51 Duality of Experience in Therapy 55:05 Rupture and Repair in Therapeutic Relationships 01:01:52 The Challenge of Change 01:06:57 Structural Changes for Lasting Impact Follow Dr. David Alter:     General Info: www.drdavidalter.com      For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com       Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:     General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com

    What Creates Change in Psychotherapy? | Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

  6. 21 Apr

    Loneliness and the Crisis in Connection

    Are we truly facing a loneliness epidemic—or are we misunderstanding what connection really requires? In this episode, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter explore the growing concern that modern life is eroding meaningful human connection. They examine how changes in technology, work, and social structure have reshaped relationships—and why many people feel increasingly disconnected despite constant contact. The conversation distinguishes between being alone, feeling lonely, and being fundamentally disconnected, offering a more precise framework for understanding emotional isolation. They also explore why many attempts at connection feel superficial or performative, and what actually creates relationships that are reciprocal, honest, and emotionally sustaining. The episode concludes with practical, grounded ways to rebuild connection—through consistency, vulnerability, and a willingness to engage beyond surface-level interaction. Key Topics The "loneliness epidemic": reality vs perception Real vs superficial relationships Technology and social disconnection Vulnerability and reciprocity in relationships Rebuilding meaningful connection The role of environment, nature, and presence

  7. 1 Apr

    Conflict, Identity and Multiple Perspectives in Israel–Palestine

    Why is it so difficult to hold multiple perspectives in conflict, especially when identity, history, and trauma are involved? In this episode, conflict negotiator Naseem Khuri explores the psychology of conflict through the lens of Israel–Palestine and, later in the episode, polarization in the United States. Drawing on his professional work and personal history, he examines how people interpret the same reality in fundamentally different ways, and why conflict is often something to be managed rather than resolved. The conversation addresses intergenerational trauma, competing narratives of loss and displacement, the danger of certainty, and the role of process in creating conditions for understanding. It also explores the limits of empathy in active conflict and the importance of building structures that allow people to be heard without requiring agreement. This episode offers a psychological perspective on conflict, identity, and polarization—both in international contexts and in everyday human relationships. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: Naseem Khuri   Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    Conflict, Identity and Multiple Perspectives in Israel–Palestine

  8. 12 Mar

    Dr. David Patterson: Hypnosis, Pain & Neuroplasticity

    How can hypnosis transform the way we experience pain? In this episode, psychologists Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter speak with Dr. David Patterson, a leading expert in pain psychology and medical hypnosis, about the science and psychology of pain—and how hypnosis can reshape our relationship with it. The conversation explores the critical differences between acute and chronic pain, the role of neuroplasticity in maintaining pain patterns, and how hypnosis can help patients shift perception, reduce suffering, and reconnect with activity and meaning. Dr. Patterson also shares deeply personal reflections on grief, resilience, and healing, illustrating how relational aspects of therapy and human connection play a powerful role in recovery. This episode offers both clinical insight and human perspective on one of the most challenging experiences people face: living with pain. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: David Patterson Keywords Pain management Hypnosis Neuroplasticity Chronic pain Medical hypnosis Psychotherapy Pain treatment Mind-body medicine Emotional resilience Healing   Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com     For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com     Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    Dr. David Patterson: Hypnosis, Pain & Neuroplasticity
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Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.

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  • Creator
    Eric Spiegel and David Alter
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    19
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2025
  • Show Website
    Transforming Relationships

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