Right up front: we’re agreed that the main thing for Palace right now is to be realistic — hang onto Premier League survival, recruit smartly, and not pretend we can suddenly leap into the old big six. I’m Gary Spencer and I’ve got Bruce Millington on — a proper South Norwood lad, Racing Post ex-editor and Palace lifer — and we chew through half a century of memories from the 76 cup run to the 90 final, the ultras, and those mad away days where you kept one eye on the match and one eye on the bricks. We talk stadiums too: I moan about the Arthur Wait squeeze and Bruce lays out why the new main stand is crucial but pricey, and why Parish and the board deserve credit for keeping us punching above our weight. We argue managers, from Glasner’s solidity to the new bloke’s looser style, and whether patience still exists in today’s game — I’m slightly sceptical, Bruce is cautiously hopeful. We also pick over players — Wilf, Eze, Kamada, Wharton, Sarmiento — and why smart recruitment and squad depth matter more than splashy transfers. If you want nostalgia, practical realism and a bit of banter about the state of Croydon and the club’s future, this is the one to stick on. I'm Bruce Millington here: long-time Palace fan, ex-Racing Post editor, and somebody who grew up half a mile from Selhurst. I tell Gary how I stumbled into journalism (greyhound tracks, a lucky foot in the door) and how the game and the media have changed — from a paper-first Racing Post to apps, to betting regulation that’s now overbearing for your nan. I talk about the club’s peaks and troughs honestly: the misery of the early 80s, the thrill when Venables and Allison lit things up, then more recent glory with the FA Cup and European nights. We debate managers, and I admit Glasner gave us two brilliant years; the new bloke needs time but the defence looks shakier without Lacroix, Gay and Munoz. I also get a bit sentimental: I had prostate cancer before the FA Cup final, so that win means more than football. Bottom line — recruit wisely, stay sensible, and we’ll keep punching above our weight. We both take a hard look forward. We agree that short-term results over the next six months will set the tone for years to come: if Sarr and the current manager bed in, Palace can stabilise in the top flight; if not, realistic expectations mean mid‑table survival is the sensible target. Squad-wise we still have attacking firepower — Eze, Kamada (who’s grown into a beauty), Wharton — but the defence needs shoring up after losing key pieces and Riyad’s awful ACL. The new stand is a double-edged sword: a fantastic fan upgrade but a financial strain to be managed. We mix stories and straight talk: remember the community feel, back the chairman who rebuilt the club, and above all, be pragmatic. Up the Palace — enjoy the highs, accept the lows, and let sensible recruitment and coaching do the rest. Takeaways: I reckon our priority has to be staying in the Premier League rather than dreaming of top-six finished seasons.We both agreed the new main stand is vital for Selhurst’s future but it mustn’t saddle the club with reckless debt.I said give the new manager three months to bed things in, though we know fans will judge results far too quickly.We reminisced about the 1976 cup run and the Team of the 80s era, showing that atmosphere follows performances more than slogans.I defended Parish and the board — they took Palace from the brink to trophies and European nights, so give credit where it’s due.We worry about losing key defenders like Riyad and Lacroix; sensible recruitment and shrewd spending must plug those defensive holes.I loved telling the story of walking into Selhurst as a kid — those memories explain why we stick with Palace through thick and thin.We also flagged modern betting regulation and how measures meant to protect vulnerable punters sometimes burden harmless fans like our nans who enjoyed a small daily punt. Companies mentioned in this episode: Racing PostThe Sporting LifeMeccaDraftKingsThe GuardianPremier LeagueUK Gambling CommissionCrystal Palace F.C.Millwall F.C.Manchester United F.C.Arsenal F.C.Tottenham Hotspur F.C.Everton F.C.Charlton Athletic F.C.AFC BournemouthLiverpool F.C.Ipswich Town F.C.Luton Town F.C.Sunderland A.F.C.Chelsea F.C.Southampton F.C.