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Whether you’re curious about how AI might impact you, an AI enthusiast looking for the next big thing, or an AI skeptic trying to implement AI for your personal or organizational growth, there’s something for everyone! Please join me !

  1. 4 days ago

    Why AI Fails Without Clean Data | Ep. 20 with Doug Saunders (Sara Lee)

    🎙️ Why AI Fails Without Clean Data Doug Saunders has spent 28 years running technology in the businesses nobody posts about: waste, ice, coal, cold chain logistics, and now frozen cheesecake. He is CTO at Sara Lee Frozen Bakery, and his position on AI is refreshingly unpopular. You do not throw AI at a business for the sake of it. You find the business problem, you fix the data underneath it, and only then does the technology earn its budget. In this conversation with Dave Goyal, Doug walks through what that actually looked like in production, including a distribution problem solved with LiDAR sensors and predictive routing that took twenty to thirty million dollars of cost out of an ice company, and a customer service bot that absorbed 500,000 interactions a year. In this episode: 00:59 A master's in Russian history, then golf course design, then CTO 04:09 Walking into food manufacturing and finding the silos 07:03 Why data has to come before AI 08:49 Building a $180M company off QuickBooks 10:25 Your LLM has no idea what your data means 14:44 Don't throw AI at a business for business sake 16:20 The ice box problem that saved $30 million 21:30 Automating 500,000 customer interactions a year 23:56 Automating to get rid of people is the wrong approach 32:51 Trust versus governance, and the Excel experts who resist 36:20 The end of Excel jockeying 39:21 Fitting master data governance to your culture If you are being asked to "do something with AI" before your data is ready, this one will give you the language to push back. Subscribe, and tell me in the comments what your organization automated too early. 🔗 Links & Resources Doug Saunders on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dgsaunders Doug Saunders on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Saundersdg Sara Lee Frozen Bakery: https://saraleefrozenbakery.com/ #DataStrategy #AIinManufacturing #SupplyChain #CTO #PrivateEquity

  2. 1 Sept

    Fix the Process First: Two Founders on Automating for Real | Ep. 19 with Noemi Kis

    🎙️ Fix the Process First: Two Founders on Automating for Real Most founders build a business that ends up owning them. Noemi Kis did the opposite. She built a seven-figure industrial water treatment company with a team of two, systemized it until it ran without her, and now spends about one hour a week on it while teaching 200,000+ non-technical founders how to run lean with AI. In this episode, Dave and Noemi compare notes on what AI automation actually looks like in production, where humans still have to stay in the loop, and why refining a process before you automate it is the difference between leverage and expensive chaos. In this episode: 00:00 A seven-figure business run by two people 02:02 The moment she realized effort had stopped equaling results 05:14 Why the business model matters more than the hustle 08:05 Running a company on one hour a week with EOS 09:40 The "lazy CEO" mindset that protects your energy 15:25 Can they do it, and do they want it? Hiring filter 17:22 Don't automate chaos: fix the process first 20:35 Voice DNA, redlining, and how to avoid AI slop 22:34 Creating content for non-followers, not followers 26:57 Her live trend-scouting agent stack with human review 30:35 The $2,000 lesson in AI cost control 37:01 How Dave runs multi-agent memory across Claude, Obsidian and Notion 40:49 What happens to a job description when AI takes the task If you are sitting on a business that owns your week, this is the one to listen to. Subscribe, drop a comment with the first task you would hand off, and send this to one founder who needs it. 🔗 Links & Resources Guest website: https://www.fastestgrowingtrends.com/ Noemi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noemikis/ Noemi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kis_noemi/ Dave on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegoyal/ #AIAutomation #FounderMode #LeanBusiness #AIAgents #Entrepreneurship

  3. 18 Aug

    Skills Are Teachable. Identity Isn't. | Ep. 18 with Abhijit Bhaduri (Abhijit Bhaduri LLC)

    🎙️ Skills Are Teachable. Identity Isn't. | Abhijit Bhaduri (Abhijit Bhaduri LLC) The AI conversation is stuck on skills: learn AI or get replaced. Abhijit Bhaduri says that misses the real threat entirely. AI can learn any skill you bring to the table. What it cannot replicate is what you feel when you do the work, and that is where the identity gap opens up. Abhijit is CEO of Abhijit Bhaduri LLC and has led talent strategy inside some of the largest companies in the world: Wipro's first Chief Learning Officer, Global Head of Learning & Development at Microsoft, and HR leadership at PepsiCo, Colgate-Palmolive and Tata Steel. He is a LinkedIn Top Voice with over a million followers, SHRM's #1 HR influencer on social media, author of six books including Career 3.0, and his seventh, AIdentity, is coming later this year. In this conversation he and Dave land on the same conclusion from opposite ends of the room: the companies winning with AI are not the ones with the best models. They are the ones solving the people problem underneath. In this episode: 00:00 Meet Abhijit: from CLO to a million followers 02:03 The guitarist who plays every genre 04:37 The biggest myth in every company: money motivates 06:59 Dave: judge people by their opportunities, not their limitations 09:36 What the identity gap actually is 11:45 Why AI makes everything average (the Picasso test) 14:11 You bought the piano but skipped the lessons 16:45 The man training AI at the cost of his kid's job 20:12 Keystroke logging kills innovation 25:56 Why sharing knowledge is now a superpower 31:07 The new book: AIdentity 34:43 Introduce yourself without your title or employer 36:50 The 80/20 future: work like water, not ice 41:05 Tokens as currency and identity as the new talent layer 44:44 The one failure Abhijit still carries If this conversation changed how you think about AI, your team or your own work identity, subscribe to the Think AI Podcast, drop a like, and tell us in the comments: how would you introduce yourself without your title? 🔗 Links & Resources Abhijit Bhaduri on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhijitbhaduri/ Abhijit's website and newsletter: https://abhijitbhaduri.com #ThinkAIPodcast #AIdentity #IdentityGap #FutureOfWork #AIAdoption

  4. 11 Aug

    Healthcare AI: The Hype Ends Here | Ep. 17 with James Green (Cognome)

    🎙️ Healthcare AI: The Hype Ends Here Most hospitals cannot answer one basic question: what AI is running on our network right now? James Green went from Pixar under Steve Jobs, to running the World Series of Video Games, to building the tech behind the NFL first down line, to CEO of Cognome, a healthcare AI company deployed in 20 hospitals including Montefiore and NYU Langone. In this episode, we strip the hype out of healthcare AI and talk about what actually works, what is genuinely dangerous, and the unintended consequence nobody is discussing: a billing system where nurses are expenses and AI is profit. In this episode: 00:00 From Pixar and esports to healthcare AI 01:46 Why healthcare is adopting AI 2.2x faster than other industries 12:15 AI Sniffer: finding every hidden AI on a hospital network 18:08 Ambient dictation and the wrong leg problem 21:55 The judge and jury system that kills hallucinations 26:17 Why missing context is the second most dangerous thing in clinical AI 29:36 Silent mode: the right way to deploy AI with physicians 34:44 AI already beats doctors 99.9% of the time, with one catch 39:42 Nurses billed like bed linen: the consequence nobody sees coming 43:34 LLMs are now healthcare's fastest growing cyber threat 46:52 The next 3 to 5 years: thousands of AI agents per hospital 49:32 What Steve Jobs was really like: seven reasons in 2.5 seconds If this conversation made you think differently about AI in your industry, subscribe to the Think AI Podcast, drop a comment with your take on the nurse billing question, and share this with someone in healthcare who needs to hear it. 🔗 Links & Resources Cognome: https://www.cognome.com James Green on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesangreen/ #ThinkAIPodcast #DaveGoyal #HealthcareAI #AIGovernance #ArtificialIntelligence

  5. 4 Aug

    Speed Is No Longer a Moat | Ep. 16 with Alex Galert (BRNZ/DUDE.AI)

    🎙️ Speed Is No Longer a Moat | Alex Galert, BRNZ Everyone in AI is racing to ship faster. Alex Galert, CEO of BRNZ, says that race is already over, and speed was never the real advantage. In this conversation he breaks down why accountability, not velocity, is the new moat, and how his studio builds complete AI-powered companies for equity, with a 67% founder floor in writing and zero investors. In this episode: 00:00 The thesis: why speed stopped being a moat 01:31 The Hero Founder and 10,000 hours in one industry 08:55 Business for equity: how BRNZ actually works 14:14 The anti-VC model: no fees, equity only by shipping 18:54 Inside DUDE.AI and the five levels of AI autonomy 26:08 The dirty secret of AI-generated code, and a real data hole 31:48 The failure that changed how Alex builds 45:31 Can a company run with no humans? 55:02 Five moves you can make Monday morning If you build with AI, this one will change how you think about shipping. Like, subscribe, and drop a comment with the one move you are taking into Monday. 🔗 Links & Resources Website: [brnz.com] | [DUDE.AI] Guest LinkedIn: [Alex Galert] (comment BUILD on the pinned post for the BRNZ Playbook) WhatsApp: message DIAGNOSIS to [wa.me/491711254074] for a Startup Loop Diagnosis ▶️ #ThinkAIPodcast #DaveGoyal #AI #AgenticAI #Startups

  6. 28 Jul

    There Is No Magic Wand: What AI Can (And Cannot) Actually Do | Ep. 15 with Dilip Bagrecha (Wishtree)

    🎙️ There Is No Magic Wand: What AI Can (And Cannot) Actually Do Dilip Bagrecha built mission-critical financial systems at RBS and UBS where failure wasn't an option. Now, as founder and CEO of Wishtree Technologies, he's watching enterprises treat AI like it can solve everything—and it's not working. In this episode, we unpack why only 5% of enterprises have truly adopted AI, the reliability discipline that separates real engineering from hype, and the uncomfortable truth most AI consultants won't say out loud: there is no magic wand. In this episode: (00:00) The reliability standard that built global banking systems—and why AI ignores it (02:30) Why 99.9% uptime is a death sentence for enterprise deployment (06:15) The shift from "AI tools" to "AI teams"—what actually changes for leaders (14:00) How to spot which AI use cases will actually work (and which are technical debt waiting to happen) (20:45) The fixed-pricing trap: why outcome-based contracts don't work yet (28:15) The CFO mindset killing AI ROI: cost obsession vs. value obsession (36:00) Advice for the nervous mid-market CEO: think transformation, not tools (42:45) Why honesty is rare in AI consulting—and why Dilip refuses to play along If you're leading enterprise AI initiatives, skeptical of the hype, or about to invest in AI and want straight talk instead of magic-wand promises, this conversation cuts through the noise. Subscribe to Think AI Podcast wherever you listen and send this to a leader in your life who's buying AI or building their first autonomous system. You'll get answers differently. Links and Resources: Dilip Bagrecha on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dilipbagrecha/ Wishtree Technologies: https://wishtreetech.com/ Think AI: https://thinkaicorp.com/ #EnterpriseAI #AIAdoption #FinTech #AIConsulting #ProductEngineering #AINative

  7. 21 Jul

    The Myth of Too Small to Hack | Ep. 14 with Tom Kirkham (Kirkham IronTech)

    🎙️ The Myth of Too Small to Hack Tom Kirkham, founder and CEO of Kirkham IronTech and two-time Amazon bestselling author of Hack the Rich, sits down with Dave to break down how AI has turned phishing and ransomware into a high-volume numbers game, and why he says over 90% of breaches still come down to one thing: human failure. In this episode: 00:00 Tom's ISIS kill list story and why "why would a hacker want me" is the wrong question 03:37 How AI personalizes phishing emails at scale 08:41 The Colonial Pipeline attack and why small businesses are the real targets 12:43 Why 90%+ of breaches are human failure, not a tech failure 17:51 The three things every business needs: awareness training, EDR, and MFA 27:01 Why your CFO should never run IT 36:35 Shadow AI and why privacy is security 49:02 Is a global cyber pandemic already here? 59:49 Hacking's GDP is bigger than most countries If you run a business of any size, this episode will change how you think about risk. Like, subscribe, and drop a comment on the one thing you're going to fix this week. 🔗 Links & Resources Books by Tom Kirkham: Purchase on Amazon Kirkham IronTech: kirkhamirontech.com Follow Tom Kirkham on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkirkham/ #CyberSecurity #AI #Ransomware #ThinkAIPodcast #Leadership

  8. 7 Jul

    Data First, AI Second, People Always | Ep. 13 with Scot Burdette (ABB)

    🎙️ Data First, AI Second, People Always | Scot Burdette, ABB CIO "𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝘁𝗼𝗼𝗹, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝘁'𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻." - Scot Burdette Scot Burdette runs digital transformation at ABB across 3 business lines, 60+ countries, and 17 factories. 40 years in technology, from HP and EDS to global division CIO, and a 2025 Ohio ORBIE Awards global finalist. In this conversation with Dave Goyal, he lays out a simple order of operations: 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁. 𝗔𝗜 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗱. 𝗣𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝗹𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀. We get into the unglamorous data plumbing nobody celebrates, why a demo is the easy part, what good data means across 60 countries, capturing hard-won knowledge before people retire, and how the CIO role moved from the basement to the boardroom. If you lead data, AI, or a team through change, this one is for you. ⏱️ Chapters: 00:00 Meet Scot Burdette: 40 years, 60+ countries, 17 factories 01:01 A day when one decision touches 60 countries 03:34 Using AI to run his own calendar and time 05:30 Why expecting AI to be perfect on day one backfires 06:54 The multi-year build for end to end order automation 09:33 What good data actually means across 60 countries 13:49 Why the data plumbing has to come first 14:56 Building a demo is easy, the foundation is hard 17:12 Capturing tribal knowledge before the retirement wave 21:13 Why the team, not the tech, are the rock stars 23:40 Right people, wrong seat 25:44 From the basement to the boardroom 27:54 Will AI take jobs? AI as a tool 29:38 Teach kids to use AI, not just build it 32:30 Data and AI: transformation and adoption 🎧 Watch or listen: YouTube: https://youtube.com/davegoyal Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7z6mVpTBjbqwuAgLtxgoSq?si=1171658bc9e944af Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/think-ai-podcast/id1884395529 About the Think AI Podcast: Dave Goyal sits down with the operators and leaders putting AI and data to work in the real world, minus the hype. New episodes weekly. #ThinkAIPodcast #DataStrategy #AILeadership #CIO #DaveGoyal

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    Dave Goyal
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    2026
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