This episode we are joined with Cathy Kemp, Tony Beavers, and Peter Suber from the Independent Philosophy Institute, now known as Exploring the Future of Philosophy, a group of academics, mostly philosophers, greatly concerned by cutbacks to institutional philosophy in the US. The core idea is to offer small, online philosophy seminars across a wide range of topics, texts, figures, periods, movements, and cultures. It would be administered primarily by philosophers, and exist outside conventional colleges and universities, not subject to their budgets, curricula, staffing levels, or enrollment expectations. Their hope, perhaps after a start-up period, is that faculty could be paid and students could earn transferable credits. The idea is still in the planning stage, and they are thinking hard about finances, quality control, curriculum, accreditation, governance, and infrastructure, among other central issues. Cathy Kemp is Associate Professor in the philosophy department at John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. She writes and teaches in the areas of early modern philosophy, especially the work and influence of David Hume, and the philosophy of law. She received her B.A. in philosophy at Earlham College in 1987. For more information, see her faculty page . Tony Beavers is a Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at the University of Evansville, and an Adjunct Professor and Visiting Associate Researcher in the Cognitive Science Program at Indiana University. His primary interests in philosophy have centered around the history of philosophy, particularly with an eye toward reading it as a history of cognitive systems, phenomenology, and how phenomenology might be accounted for by neuroscientific and neuromorphic mechanisms rather than transcendental explanations. He's also interested in the philosophy of information and information technology, and the philosophy of complex systems. In tech, he has worked on database and search engine design, local learning, associative artificial intelligence networks, and conceptual issues addressing the relationship between technology and human cognition. To learn more about Tony, visit https://www.afbeavers.net. Peter Suber is a Professor of Philosophy Emeritus at Earlham College, Senior Advisor for Open Access in Harvard Library, and Director of the Harvard Open Access Project in the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society. In philosophy, he specialized in Kant and German idealism; the history of modern European philosophy from Montaigne to Nietzsche; the history of western skepticism from Socrates to the 20th century; epistemological and ethical issues related to skepticism, such as fictionalism, ideology, self-deception, and the ethics of belief; the logical, epistemological, ethical, and legal problems of self-reference; the metatheory of first-order logic; the ethics of paternalism, consent, and coercion; and the philosophy of law. For more information, see his home page . Time Stamps: (0:00) Intro (4:14) What is Exploring the Future of Philosophy? (5:49) The Crises Facing Philosophy in Universities: Increased Pressure and Cuts (12:49) Planning Stage of Exploring the Future of Philosophy: Preserving Depth (20:29) Are Universities Being Responsible to Education? (22:39) We Can’t Let Go of Big Questions (36:00) What is Old is New Again: Books, People, Talking (39:24) Students Have to Learn How Deep, Deep Can be (47:50) Schole: Finding a Slow Pace of Continual Inquiry in a Search for Depth (49:07) Teaching Hard Books Slowly (50:32) Future Plans and Nonprofit Status: Funding, Accreditation, Governance, and More (1:06:10) Preserving the Ability to Think Deeply About Things (1:07:10) What Could the Alternatives Look Like? (1:22:55) Flexibility in Teaching Philosophy (1:23:56) Saving Philosophy: Let’s See What the Possibilities Are (1:28:12) Outro