Nope, That's Not Normal

Jessica Thiefels

You already know diet culture is BS. Now comes the harder part: living differently in a world still obsessed with shrinking, fixing, and controlling bodies. This podcast is for ongoing, layered healing—real conversations about food, identity, boundaries, and self-trust when there’s no finish line and no perfect way to “do it right.” https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast (nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com)

  1. 62. The Messy Middle of Disordered Eating Healing

    5 days ago

    62. The Messy Middle of Disordered Eating Healing

    In this episode, Jess and Mallary chat about the complexities of disordered eating and the healing journey. They explore personal experiences with food, the concept of the 'messy middle' in recovery, and the importance of recognizing “slips” as part of the healing process. Bottom line: for many people, recovery is not a linear path but rather a spectrum of growth and learning, and recognizing this can make the journey a little easier to navigate. Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/ Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/ Meet Our Guest, MallaryMallary Tenore Tarpley teaches journalism at UT Austin’s Moody College of Communication and writing at the McCombs School of Business. Her debut book, SLIP: Life in the Middle of Eating Disorder Recovery (Simon Element, August 2025), blends memoir and journalism to explore the realities of eating disorders and recovery, drawing on her own story along with clinicians, researchers, and others with lived experience. A 2023 Alfred P. Sloan Foundation grant supported the book’s science reporting on the neurobiological and genetic sides of eating disorders. She previously served as associate director of UT Austin’s Knight Center for Journalism in the Americas and executive director of Images & Voices of Hope, where she created the Restorative Narrative storytelling framework. She began her career at The Poynter Institute as managing editor of Poynter.org. Her writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, TIME, and Teen Vogue. She also writes a weekly newsletter, Write at the Edge. She holds a bachelor’s from Providence College and an MFA from Goucher College, and lives in the Austin area with her husband and two children. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Slip/Mallary-Tenore-Tarpley/9781668035016https://www.instagram.com/mallarytenoretarpley/https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallary-tenore-tarpley-6719484/https://mallary.substack.com

    26 min
  2. 57. A Body Image Researcher Shares Her Tips for Parents

    26 Mar

    57. A Body Image Researcher Shares Her Tips for Parents

    In this episode, Jessica and Charlotte (who is celebrating the launch of The Body Image Book for Girls, 2nd Edition today!) chat about how to foster a positive, neutral, or at the very least non-diet-culture-focused body image for your child. Charlotte brings research-based insights to this conversation, along with her own experiences as a parent. One of her big tips: fake it till you make it! (Yup, it’s true!) Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/ Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/ Meet Our Guest, CharlotteCharlotte Markey, Ph.D., is a world-leading expert in body image research, having studied body image and eating behavior for nearly three decades. She is passionate about understanding what makes us feel good about our bodies and helping people to develop a healthy body image and relationship with food. Charlotte is an experienced book author, research scientist, clinician, speaker, and psychology professor at Rutgers University, Camden. Charlotte loves to talk with tweens, teens, parents, and educators about body image and how to improve body image. She is an experienced public speaker and is happy to talk with groups in person or virtually. https://www.thebodyimagebook.com/abouthttps://www.instagram.com/char_markey/www.CharlotteMarkey.comwww.TheBodyImageBook.comhttps://www.celiabookshop.com/item/5qjEKC8Omz7jC9_W2i6p9ghttps://www.amazon.com/Body-Image-Book-Girls-Updated/dp/1009545078

    35 min
  3. 56. 3 Reasons to Skip the Next "What I Eat in a Day" Video You See

    12 Mar

    56. 3 Reasons to Skip the Next "What I Eat in a Day" Video You See

    In this episode, Jessica and Tomesha explore the impact of social media on body image and nutrition, specifically the very common “what I eat in a day” video—even those that are “well-meaning.” They chat about the lack of cultural context and representation in these videos, along with the dangers of diet culture and practical ways to foster a healthier relationship with food and self-awareness. Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/ Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/ Meet Our Guest, TomeshaFor over a decade, Tomesha Campbell has been a leader in Black women’s health and health literacy. She’s the founder of the Enhance Black Women’s Health Community, where she helps patients, providers, and advocates better understand how research, policy, and lived experience shape care for Black women. Tomesha is passionate about creating evidence-informed education and community spaces that challenge assumptions in healthcare and center context over quick fixes. Her work spans public health education, weight-inclusive nutrition, and patient-centered advocacy. Tomesha holds a Master’s degree in Sustainable International Development and is a NESTA Certified Fitness Nutrition Coach and Precision Nutrition Level 2 Master Coach. She’s based in the Greater Boston area with her rescue dog, Penny Deena. EBWHCommunity.comhttps://substack.com/@ebwh

    28 min

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You already know diet culture is BS. Now comes the harder part: living differently in a world still obsessed with shrinking, fixing, and controlling bodies. This podcast is for ongoing, layered healing—real conversations about food, identity, boundaries, and self-trust when there’s no finish line and no perfect way to “do it right.” https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast (nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com)

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