Julian Treasure is one of the most-watched TED speakers in the world, but his message is simple: the most important skill for speakers is listening. In this episode, Julian explains why audiences don’t hear your message “as delivered.” They hear it through filters: culture, mood, expectations, time of day, the speaker before you, and even the acoustics of the room. We talk about how to “listen to their listening” in real time, how to recover when the energy is off, and how to make your voice land with more impact, without turning into a motivational foghorn. What you’ll learnWhy speaking and listening form a circle, not a straight lineThe listening filters that shape how audiences receive your messageHow to handle the “graveyard slot” and other attention dipsWhat to do when the speaker before you has poisoned the roomThe “gift” visualisation to instantly improve your on-stage presenceWhy sound affects physiology, focus, behaviour, and buying decisionsPractical advice on mics, acoustics, and why lavaliers can betray youThe role of silence and humility in real listeningJulian’s Listening Society and his speaking and listening assessments Links mentionedJulian’s Listening Society (free resources and membership) https://www.thelisteningsociety.community/sign_up?request_host=www.thelisteningsociety.communityhttps://www.juliantreasure.com/Julian’s speaking and listening assessments (individual and organisational scorecards) https://juliantreasure.floot.app/ CHAPTERS00:00 Intro: Julian Treasure and why listening beats speaking02:00 Julian’s contrarian stance: listening is the base of the pyramid04:00 Listening to their listening: the filters audiences use06:00 Graveyard slots, room mood, and the speaker before you08:00 How to recover when the audience is off12:00 The “gift” visualisation for stage presence16:00 The three intentions: you, the audience, and their intention for themselves19:00 Why listening has been sidelined in modern life21:00 Sound’s effects: physiology, psychology, behaviour, cognition24:00 TED curation and making every word a “diamond”26:00 Being heard: mics, AV crews, and room acoustics30:00 Silence, humility, and listening as a leadership skill35:00 Julian’s TED history and the talk that went ballistic40:00 Coaching, leadership, listening, and organisational disengagement42:00 Listening Society and assessments45:00 Outro: key takeaways and what’s next Visit https://strategic-speaker.scoreapp.com to take the 2-minute Strategic Speaking Business Audit and find out what's blocking you from getting more bookings, re-bookings, referrals and bigger fees. There's a special surprise gift for everyone who completes the quiz. Want to get coached for free on the show? Fill in the form https://forms.gle/mo4xYkEiCjqtz9yP6, and if we think your challenge could help others, we'll invite you on. For speaking enquiries or to connect with me, you can email john@presentinfluence.com or find me on LinkedIn You can find all our clips, episodes and more on the Present Influence YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PresentInfluence Thanks for listening. Rating the show 5* on Spotify helps their algorithm recommend the show, so please take a moment to follow the show and leave a rating. Mentioned in this episode: SPGFS - Hiro.fm Becoming known will always make it easier to get booked and podcast guesting is one of the easiest ways to make that happen, when you have the right strategy. This program will teach you everything you need to know about podcast guesting, from the tech stack to making an impact. You'll get all the tools to stand out as an amazing podcast guest and get booked on great shows. The Strategic Speaking Business Audit Take this quick quiz to find out where and why your speaking business is leaking opportunities.