The Systems Engineering Podcast

Joshua Sutherland

https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/ https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ Cutting edge ideas from the world's leading systems engineering experts. Some recent topics include: Model Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), INCOSE, Project Management, System Architecture, Systems Level Design, Systems Engineering, Engineering Management, Teamwork

  1. Jolly Pradhan Interview - Stop Building the Wrong Thing: Real B2B Innovation Explained

    3 DAYS AGO

    Jolly Pradhan Interview - Stop Building the Wrong Thing: Real B2B Innovation Explained

    🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS EPISODE BELOW 🎁 https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-podcast-2026-01-15-jolly-pradhan-interview/   Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes.   ====================== 📡 Tech Planning Copilot 📡 - https://techplanningcopilot.com/ ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/   ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/   🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/   COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F   ======================   🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Jolly Pradhan: -- https://www.endtoendinnovation.co/ -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jollypradhan/   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 Introduction — B2B innovation, building the right thing, notes + Tech Planning Copilot 00:01:32 Jolly Pradhan and End-to-End Innovation Consulting from Idea to Launch 00:03:01 Validating Customer Needs — Avoiding Assumptions & Interviewing Properly 00:06:15 "Build the Right Thing" vs "Build It Right" 00:06:49 Systems Thinking in Practice — Semiconductor Story & Cross-Discipline Integration 00:10:08 De-Risking Early — Stakeholders, Manufacturing Lessons & Avoiding Rework 00:12:49 Prioritisation — Avoiding Paralysis & Focusing on Core Needs 00:15:10 B2B Reality — Integration Over ROI & The Hiring AI Case Study 00:21:24 AI Hype vs Reality — Asking Better Questions & Scaling Responsibly 00:25:49 Scaling & Architecture — Storage, Costs, Requirements Before Build 00:30:12 Lean Startup vs Long-Term Thinking — MVPs, Architecture & Duct-Tape Software 00:38:25 MIT SDM Journey — Career Pivot & Continuous Learning 00:47:14 Innovation Inside Large Firms — Buy-In, Process Mapping & Structured Problem Solving 00:57:55 Final Takeaways — End-to-End Thinking, Assumptions & AI as a Tool 01:06:05 Outro — Links, Notes & Connect with Jolly

    1h 8m
  2. Dov Dori Interview - The Origins & Future of OPM (Object-Process Methodology)

    12/12/2025

    Dov Dori Interview - The Origins & Future of OPM (Object-Process Methodology)

    🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS EPISODE BELOW 🎁 https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-podcast-2025-12-04-dov-dori-interview/   Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes.   ======================   ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/   ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/   🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/   COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F   ======================   🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Prof. Dov Dori: -- https://dovdori.technion.ac.il/ -- https://professional.mit.edu/programs/faculty-profiles/dov-dori -- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dov-dori-90973 - OPCloud: https://www.opcloud.tech/   - Book: Dori, D. (2016). Model-based systems engineering with OPM and SysML (Vol. 15). New York: Springer. - Book: Dori, D. (2002). Object-process methodology: A holistic systems paradigm; with cd-rom. Springer Science & Business Media.   - ISO 19450:2024 - Object-Process Methodology: https://www.iso.org/standard/84612.html   Selected Papers: - Kang, X., Shteingardt, V., Wang, Y., & Dori, D. (2025). Neuro-Conceptual Artificial Intelligence: Integrating OPM with Deep Learning to Enhance Question Answering Quality. arXiv e-prints, arXiv-2502. - Dori, Dov. "Model‐based standards authoring: ISO 15288 as a case in point." Systems Engineering 27.2 (2024): 302-314. - Yaroker, Y., Perelman, V. and Dori, D. (2013), An OPM conceptual model-based executable simulation environment: Implementation and evaluation. Syst. Engin., 16: 381-390. - Somekh, J., Choder, M., & Dori, D. (2012). Conceptual model-based systems biology: Mapping knowledge and discovering gaps in the mRNA transcription cycle. PloS one, 7(12), e51430.   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 Introduction — Who is Dov Dori, what is OPM + PDF notes  00:01:48 OPM fundamentals — objects, processes, diagrams + OPL 00:05:03 Learning OPM quickly — simplicity, books, OPC Cloud 00:07:25 Origin — from information systems to systems engineering 00:14:35 ISO 19450 journey — PAS → ISO, qualitative OPM only 00:16:55 Conceptual → computational OPM — attributes, formulas, simulation 00:18:20 OPM + AI — OPL interpretation, natural language → models 00:24:15 Model-based ISO standards, contradictions, risk modelling 00:35:20 Feedback loops, system dynamics, modelling depth 00:36:50 OPM vs SysML — strengths, diagrams, communication  00:44:20 Beyond engineering — law, contracts, patents, structured knowledge  00:57:30 Neuron demo — OPM in biology + AI narrative generation  01:06:20 Future of OPM — education, kids, neuro-conceptual AGI 01:16:35 Final message  01:17:37 Outro — download PDF notes, buy books, training etc

    1h 18m
  3. William D. Miller Interview — Back to Our Roots - INCOSE's Future of Systems Engineering (FuSE)

    19/09/2025

    William D. Miller Interview — Back to Our Roots - INCOSE's Future of Systems Engineering (FuSE)

    🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS EPISODE BELOW 🎁 https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-podcast-2025-09-19-william-d-miller-interview/   Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes.   ======================   ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/   ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/   🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/   COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F   ======================   🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 William D. Miller: - https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-miller-504a882/ INCOSE Future of Systems Engineering (FuSE): - https://www.incose.org/communities/working-groups-initiatives/fuse INCOSE Systems Engineering Vision 2035: - https://www.incose.org/publications/se-vision-2035   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 Introduction + who is Bill; PDF summary 00:01:05 At INCOSE IW 2025 — What is the future of SE? 00:01:15 Vision 2035 and shift from process to engineering of systems 00:01:36 The "ilities" challenge — integrating quality metrics 00:01:46 What a chief systems engineer actually does (requirements → sell-off) 00:02:31 Cross-discipline story - the F=ma whiteboard test 00:03:08 Back to our roots — process ≠ outcomes; "engineering of systems" 00:03:51 Four workstreams - foundations, methodology, vision/roadmap, applications 00:04:04 Application extensions beyond aero/defense (incl. healthcare, automotive) 00:04:22 Energy transition focus 00:04:36 Kodiak Island microgrid case (hydro, diesel, wind, crane regen, flywheel) 00:06:32 2003 Northeast blackout — overlooked dependencies at airports 00:07:42 Fukushima lesson — scenario planning (CONOPS) and tsunami risk 00:08:29 How to get involved- search "Systems Engineering Vision 2035" 00:08:57 Be proactive — we can't be passive about the vision 00:09:45 Vision 2035 structure - trends, current state, future, roadmap (2025/2030/2035) 00:10:53 Parting message - collaborate across the whole systems community 00:11:17 Wrap-up and thanks

    11 min
  4. Michael D. Watson Interview — INCOSE President (2026–2027) & NASA's Theory of Systems Engineering

    12/09/2025

    Michael D. Watson Interview — INCOSE President (2026–2027) & NASA's Theory of Systems Engineering

    🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS EPISODE BELOW 🎁 https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-podcast-2025-09-12-michael-d-watson-interview/   Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes.   ======================   ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/   ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/   🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/   COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F   ======================   🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 Michael D. Watson: - https://www.incose.org/about-incose/organization/leadership/michael-watson-bio - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-watson-33294183/ NASA/TP–20205003644: Engineering Elegant Systems: - https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/nasa_tp_20205003644_interactive2.pdf   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:19 What it's like being INCOSE President-Elect? 00:02:26 From NASA work to INCOSE principles (and why principles matter) 00:03:20 Origin of NASA's "Engineering Elegant Systems: Theory of Systems Engineering" 00:05:15 Why systems engineering is essential at NASA 00:07:03 Adoption & impact: principles → handbooks and guidance 00:08:15 The commercial space shift - beyond big gov & primes - Parallels with aviation 00:12:25 Shuttle reuse realities vs early vision 00:14:21 Tech transfer NASA → commercial engines & rockets 00:16:46 Advice to students/early-career degrees, paths, options 00:18:26 Multiple pathways machining, manufacturing, precision build 00:20:33 How to get involved with INCOSE

    22 min
  5. The Built Environment Connective - Mark Enzer and Alexandra Bolton - Join the Movement

    01/07/2025

    The Built Environment Connective - Mark Enzer and Alexandra Bolton - Join the Movement

    🖐️Join us on 3 July 2025🖐️ 1.30pm-5pm BST (in person at Imperial College, London or online): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/connect-to-change-tickets-1349530474979?aff=oddtdtcreator   🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - 3 July 2025 Connect to Change Event (register for in person or online): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/connect-to-change-tickets-1349530474979?aff=oddtdtcreator - Built Environment Connective (including links to documents): https://be-connective.com/ - Built Environment Connective: https://www.linkedin.com/company/built-environment-connective - Mark Enzer OBE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-enzer/ - Alexandra Bolton OBE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-bolton-cw/   ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Opening meeting Mark Enzer and Alexandra Bolton 00:00:32 - What is the Built Environment?   00:02:30 - Why systems thinking is essential 00:04:30 - Long life of the Built Environment 00:05:07 - Connected systems, disconnected institutions 00:08:30 - Urgency and long-term planning   00:09:58 - Legacy and long life of infrastructure   00:13:25 - Infrastructure corridors and lost opportunities 00:18:30 - What is the Built Environment Connective? 00:20:13 - What got the Built Environment Connective started and getting involved? 00:26:22 - Details about the 3rd July 2025 event 00:28:40 - Avoiding systems thinking as a buzzword 00:33:25 - Defining outcomes vs. defaulting to interventions 00:38:20 - The Scope-Outcomes-Systems-Interventions-Feedback model 00:47:46 - Lessons from other sectors and countries 00:52:20 - Final thoughts   ======================   ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/   ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/   🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/   COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F   ======================

    54 min
  6. Book Insights: "A Journey Through the Systems Landscape" by Harold "Bud" Lawson

    22/12/2024

    Book Insights: "A Journey Through the Systems Landscape" by Harold "Bud" Lawson

    🎁 GET MY FREE PDF SUMMARY OF THIS BOOK BELOW 🎁 https://www.joshuasutherland.com/lp/free-pdf-notes-book-lawson-a-journey-through-the-systems-landscape/ Use the link above to get free instant access to my PDF notes on Harold "Bud" Lawson's "A Journey Through the Systems Landscape". ====================== 📚 WATCH MY VIDEO SUMMARIES OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS IN SYSTEMS ENGINEERING 📚 - Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN00pQPRZHMeEp6ogIxxaPBF-iHuNVGXu - Best Systems Books: https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/best-systems-books/ ====================== ☎️ COACHING, CONSULTING & TRAINING ☎️ - Book a Call: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/book-a-call/ - https://InternationalSystemsGroup.com/ ✉️ NEWSLETTER ✉️ - https://www.joshuasutherland.com/newsletter/ 🖐️ CONNECT WITH ME 🖐️ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuasutherland - https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ - https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/ COURSES 🎬️ Scenarios and Making Future Proof Plans: https://www.udemy.com/course/making-future-proof-plans/?referralCode=B24BABD3F3A3EB986E8A 🎬️ Object Process Methodology (OPM) for MBSE: https://www.udemy.com/course/opm-for-mbse/?couponCode=OF83024F ====================== 🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Book: https://www.collegepublications.co.uk/systems/?00001 - Harold "Bud" Lawson: https://harold-lawson.com/ ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Opening - Systems thinking vs. Systems acting 00:02:03 - Who is Joshua Sutherland? 00:02:24 - Other videos and resources 00:05:05 - Flicking through the book 00:05:50 - Harold "Bud" Lawson 00:06:27 - 1 - What is the central idea or argument of this book, and why does it matter? 00:10:30 - 2 - Who is the book for? How can YOU apply this to your work? 00:13:11 - 3 - Who was Harold "Bud" Lawson, and what role did he play in shaping systems thinking and systems engineering? 00:14:37 - 4 - How is the book organised? How should I read it? 00:17:56 - 5 - What are the key ideas Lawson presents in his "Introduction to Systems"? 00:28:38 - 6 - What is Lawson's "Systems Survival Kit"? 00:34:48 - 7 - What is Thinking in Systems vs. Acting in Systems? 00:42:04 - 8 - What are some key topics from Systems Thinking? 00:42:55 - 9 - What are some key topics from Acting in Systems? 00:43:57 - 10 - What are the case studies presented in the book? 00:46:30 - 11 - What is the importance of change management to systems? 00:48:11 - 12 - What is Life Cycle Management? 00:49:21 - 13 - Why talk about Data vs. Information vs. Knowledge in a systems book? What is the difference? What about Ontologies and Taxonomies? 00:53:34 - 14 - Organizations and Enterprises as Systems 00:54:52 - 15 - Concluding Thoughts 00:56:19 - Unit X Giveaway 00:57:36 - Other books ====================== 📖 BOOK CITATION 📖 Lawson, Harold W. A journey through the systems landscape. College Publications, 2010. 📖 BOOK DESCRIPTION 📖 Systems are everywhere and affect us daily in our private and professional lives. We all use the word "system" to describe something that is essential but often abstract, complex and even mysterious. However, learning to utilize system concepts as first class objects as well as methodologies for systems thinking and systems engineering provides a basis for removing the mystery and moving towards mastery even for complex systems. This journey through the Systems Landscape has been developed to promote learning to "think" and "act" in terms of systems. A unique aspect is the introduction of concrete system semantics provided as a "system survival kit" and based upon a limited number of concepts and principles as well as a mental model called the system-coupling diagram. This discipline independent presentation assists individuals and is essential for building a learning organization that can utilize a systems approach to achieving its enterprise goals. The eight chapters are presented as stops along a journey that successively build system knowledge. Each chapter terminates with a Knowledge Verification section that provides questions and exercises for individuals and groups. Case studies reflecting the utilization of the system related concepts, principles and methodologies are provided as chapter interludes.

    59 min

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https://www.TheSystemsEngineeringPodcast.com/ https://www.JoshuaSutherland.com/ Cutting edge ideas from the world's leading systems engineering experts. Some recent topics include: Model Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), INCOSE, Project Management, System Architecture, Systems Level Design, Systems Engineering, Engineering Management, Teamwork