Probation Behavior

Ally and Abby
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Probation Behavior is a true crime podcast hosted by Ally and Abby, exploring cases that caused chaos and captured public attention. With empathy, curiosity, and just enough banter, we break down the story, the psychology, and the public reaction that kept people talking. At the center of every case are real people who should still be here today. We focus on who they were, who loved them, and the lives that were taken too soon. We’re always learning and welcome feedback on how to approach these stories with care and respect. ⏩https://linktr.ee/probationbehavior⏪

  1. 17 hr ago

    26 | Nicole van den Hurk: A Facebook Confession That Reopened A Murder Case

    In this episode, Ally covers the disappearance and murder of Nicole van den Hurk, a 15-year-old who left her grandmother’s home before dawn on October 6, 1995, to bike to her supermarket job in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. She never arrived. Her bike, her bag, and eventually her body were found in separate locations, leaving investigators to piece together what happened on a ride that should have taken less than 30 minutes. For nearly 16 years, Nicole’s family waited for answers. Then a confession appeared on Facebook, bringing her case back into the headlines. After so many years of uncertainty, what would it take to uncover the truth about that morning? Before the case, we talk about cicadas and their lore, then ask what we could give a TED Talk about with absolutely zero preparation. The Marvel universe, classic TV shows, and ADHD coping mechanisms all make the list. Give us a microphone and apparently we’re ready. What would your topic be? Story starts: 13:45 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: NOS: Nicole van den Hurk Case TimelineDistrict Court of Oost-Brabant: Judgment, November 21, 2016Court of Appeal: Judgment, October 9, 2018Supreme Court of the Netherlands: Judgment, June 16, 2020Omroep Brabant: Reporting on the 2011 InvestigationOmroep Brabant: Follow-Up Reporting, April 2011NL Times: Interview With Andy van den HurkOmroep Brabant: Jolanda van den Hurk’s Victim Impact StatementOmroep Brabant: Remembering Nicole at the Wall Against Violence

  2. 24 Sept

    25 | Betsy Faria: Some Friends Are Worse Than Enemies

    In this episode, Abby covers the murder of Betsy Faria. On December 27, 2011, Betsy returned to her Troy, Missouri, home after a chemotherapy appointment. That night, her husband, Russ, found her murdered in their living room. Betsy had been facing cancer with people around her who were supposed to offer love and support. One of those people was her friend Pam Hupp, who had driven her home that evening. And if you think you know where this story is going, wait until you hear what Pam has to say. What happened to Betsy—and how did the search for answers turn into a case so bizarre it became a television series? Before the case, we’re choosing our death row meals, and we have a logistical question: whose job is it to actually procure these meals? Does someone get handed a shopping list? If you know, let us know in the comments. And shoutout to Uchi in Charlotte for making the cut in our final-meal selections: @uchirestaurants! Story starts: 9:30 Want to watch the dramatization after listening? The Thing About Pam, starring Renée Zellweger, is currently available to purchase in the U.S. through Apple TV and Fandango at Home. Find current viewing options here. We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: Katie Shepherd, The Washington Post: An Innocent Man Spent Years in Prison for His Wife’s Murder. Now Prosecutors Say Her Close Friend Framed Him.Missouri Court of Appeals: Day v. Hupp, 528 S.W.3d 400United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri: Faria v. McCarrick, Case No. 4:16-cv-01175-JARSt. Louis Magazine: The Unimaginable, Infamous Case of Pam HuppLegalClarity: Pam Hupp: Convictions, Charges, and What’s NextLegalClarity: Pam Hupp Neck Wounds: Murders, Self-Harm, and Trial

  3. 17 Sept

    24 | 101 Hours: The Murder of Nino Puglisi & Abduction of Debra Puglisi Sharp

    In this episode, Ally covers the murder of Anthony “Nino” Puglisi and the abduction of his wife, Debra Puglisi Sharp. On April 20, 1998, Debra was planting roses outside their Newark, Delaware, home when Nino arrived home from work and went inside. When Debra followed him a short time later, an ordinary spring afternoon became the beginning of a nightmare. Over the next 101 hours, Debra’s family and investigators struggled to understand what had happened while she fought to stay alive. With no idea whether anyone would find her—or what the man holding her planned to do—every decision she made mattered. What happened inside the Puglisi home, where was Debra taken, and how did she survive five terrifying days in captivity? Before the case, we’re talking about the death of Hayden Panettiere, her history with addiction, and how an overdose can create ripple effects through families, relationships, workplaces, and entire communities. We also revisit Cory Monteith’s death, the lasting effect it had on Lea Michele and the people around him, and the tragedies associated with what fans have called the “Glee curse.” Story starts: 7:59 Debra tells the complete story of her captivity, Nino’s murder, and her life after the crime in her memoir, Shattered: Reclaiming a Life Torn Apart by Violence. Learn more and purchase Debra’s book here. We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: I Survived: "I Couldn't Understand What Was Bringing My Neighbor To Do This To Me”Debra Puglisi Sharp: Shattered: Reclaiming a Life Torn Apart by ViolenceCNN Transcript: Interview With Debra Puglisi SharpThe Review: Local Author Celebrates SurvivalThe Washington Post: 5 Days of Terror, Then FreedomDelaware Superior Court: State v. FlaggDelaware Superior Court: Nationwide Insurance Co. v. Flagg

  4. 10 Sept

    23 | Skylar Neese: Three Friends Went Out, Only Two Came Back

    In this episode, Abby covers the disappearance and murder of Skylar Neese, a 16-year-old from Star City, West Virginia, who slipped out of her bedroom after midnight on July 6, 2012, and climbed into a waiting car. Skylar left behind the things she would have needed if she planned to stay away, making it clear to her parents that she intended to come home. What followed was a months-long search shaped by surveillance footage, conflicting stories, social media posts, and the growing feeling that someone close to Skylar knew more than they were saying. What happened after she got into that car, and how long could the truth stay hidden? Before the case, we’re talking about hickies, mosquito season, and how Ally somehow gave herself a quarter-sized bruise on her own face. Abby brings a major airport and airplane grievance to the table, while Ally has a complaint for anyone committing one particular crime against the English language. Bruises, bugs, baggage, and bad grammar—we’re covering it all. Story starts: 14:53 At the end of the episode, we also mention Lexi Weinbaum, who has shared her experience surviving a similar violent incident. You can hear more of her story on Lexi’s TikTok. We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: ABC News: Best Friends, Killers: Teens Murder Friend Because They “Didn’t Like Her”ABC News: Teenage Killers’ Eerie Tweets After Stabbing Friend to DeathTIME: The Heartbreaking True Story Behind Friends Like These: The Murder of Skylar NeesePEOPLE: Where Are Skylar Neese’s Killers Now?Hulu: Friends Like These: The Murder of Skylar NeeseDisney+: Friends Like These: The Murder of Skylar NeeseApple TV: Friends Like These: The Murder of Skylar NeeseSkylar Neese Murder And since you made it all the way down here: a quick shout-out to Ally’s cousin. You can check out his YouTube channel here.

  5. 3 Sept

    22 | George Parkman: The Body Hidden Behind Harvard’s Walls

    In this episode, Ally covers the disappearance of Dr. George Parkman, a wealthy Boston physician and businessman who was last seen entering Harvard Medical College in November 1849. As the search spread across Boston, investigators kept returning to the building where Parkman had vanished—but their reluctance to thoroughly search the prestigious school left one man increasingly suspicious. What he eventually uncovered would lead to one of the most sensational murder trials of the nineteenth century and change American courtrooms for generations. Before the case, we talk about our lake day beef with a jet ski gang of literal children. Keep your eyes open, people! Story starts: 9:48 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: George Bemis: Report of the Case of John W. Webster (1850)Commonwealth v. Russell, 470 Mass. 464 (2015)PBS American Experience: Murder at HarvardMassachusetts Historical Society: The Parkman Murder—Evidence at the MHSThe West End Museum: George ParkmanNorman B. Leventhal Map & Education Center: Course of Cholera in Boston in 1849

  6. 27 Aug

    21 | George Smith: Vanished on his Honeymoon

    In this episode, Abby covers the mysterious disappearance of George Smith IV, a 26-year-old newlywed who vanished from Royal Caribbean’s Brilliance of the Seas during his Mediterranean honeymoon in July 2005. A suspicious stain beneath the couple’s balcony, conflicting accounts of George’s final hours, and questions about the people last seen with him have fueled years of speculation over whether his disappearance was a tragic accident or something more sinister. Before we get into the case, we talk about Abby getting engaged and designating Ally as her flower girl, the continued injustice of dealing with acne as adults, and Ally’s latest TV obsession, Hacks—which has officially made her list of the top 10 shows of all time. At this point, Ally’s TV obsession of the week should probably be its own segment. Abby also discusses her love for Married at First Sight. Story starts: 10:45 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: CBS News/48 Hours: Murder at Sea? The Disappearance of George SmithCBS News: Was a Connecticut Man Who Disappeared During His Honeymoon Cruise Murdered at Sea?ABC News: Honeymoon From Hell—Husband Vanishes at SeaABC News: New Details in Case of Honeymooner Lost at SeaCNN: Mystery at Sea—George Smith Disappearance TranscriptU.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation: Cruise Ship Safety—Examining Potential Steps for Keeping Americans Safe at SeaFox News: Where Is George Smith?

  7. 20 Aug

    20 | Emma Caldwell: The Women They Didn’t Believe

    In this episode, Ally covers the murder of Emma Caldwell, a 27-year-old woman whose 2005 killing in Scotland went unsolved for nearly two decades. As Emma’s family pushed for answers, the accounts of women who had reported violence and a journalist’s investigation helped expose serious failures in the original case and ultimately bring long-awaited justice. Before we get into the case, we discuss the surprisingly high-maintenance business of looking “naturally beautiful”: Abby’s week-old tattoo regret, lip blushing, and Ally’s esthetician appointment featuring a pet bird flying around the office. The patriarchy, as always, is expensive. Story starts: 13:40 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: Judiciary of Scotland: HMA v Iain Packer Sentencing StatementPolice Scotland: Iain Packer Convicted of Murdering Emma CaldwellThe Emma Caldwell InquiryThe Emma Caldwell Inquiry: Inquiry BackgroundScottish Government: Public Inquiry Into Emma Caldwell CaseBBC Radio Scotland: Who Killed Emma?The Guardian: Why Did It Take So Long to Convict Iain Packer of Emma Caldwell’s Murder?

  8. 13 Aug

    19 | Cora, Dawson, and Callan: The Lindsay Clancy Case So Far

    In this episode, Ally and Abby both cover the deaths of Cora, Dawson, and Callan Clancy, and the trial of their mother, Lindsay Clancy, as it stands this week. Cora was 5, Dawson was 3, and Callan was 8 months old when they died in their Duxbury, Massachusetts home on January 24, 2023. Lindsay, a labor and delivery nurse at Massachusetts General Hospital, has pleaded not guilty to three counts of first-degree murder. Her attorneys do not dispute that she killed her children. What they dispute is whether she was criminally responsible, and whether postpartum psychosis is the reason. Ally covers who this family was and the five months that came first: the postpartum collapse after Callan's birth, nine psychiatric medications from prescribers who were not sharing records, the crisis line calls that went nowhere, five days at McLean Hospital, and then January 24 minute by minute. Abby covers the charges, the trial as it stands this week, the prosecution's case against the defense's, and what postpartum psychosis actually is and isn't. We also get into the theories, controversial opinions, and misinformation circling the internet right now. Recorded Monday, August 10, 2026, with updates recorded Wednesday, August 12. The trial is ongoing. Before we get into the case, we discuss our new podcasting room, end-of-life planning in our late twenties, how uncomfortable death can be, how differently everyone grieves, and picking out the perfect outfit to be buried in. Story starts: 8:25 Resources: National Maternal Mental Health Hotline, call or text 1-833-943-5746. Postpartum Support International, 1-800-944-4773. 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, call or text 988. Postpartum psychosis is a medical emergency. If someone you love seems off after having a baby, it is always okay to ask for help. We're so happy you're here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: @probationbehavior Join our Patreon Email: probationbehavior@gmail.com Case request form: Submit a case request Sources: Plymouth County DA: Arraignment and ChargesBoston Globe: Timeline of January 24, 2023AP: Patrick Clancy TestifiesBoston Globe: Lindsay Clancy's Journal EntriesABC News: Psychiatrist Lacked Complete Medical RecordBoston 25 News: Live Trial CoverageLA Magazine: The Malpractice LawsuitAP: What to Know About Postpartum Psychosis

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Probation Behavior is a true crime podcast hosted by Ally and Abby, exploring cases that caused chaos and captured public attention. With empathy, curiosity, and just enough banter, we break down the story, the psychology, and the public reaction that kept people talking. At the center of every case are real people who should still be here today. We focus on who they were, who loved them, and the lives that were taken too soon. We’re always learning and welcome feedback on how to approach these stories with care and respect. ⏩https://linktr.ee/probationbehavior⏪

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  • Creator
    Ally and Abby
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    31
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Ally and Abby
  • Show Website
    Probation Behavior

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