Probation Behavior

Ally and Abby

Probation Behavior is a true crime podcast hosted by Ally and Abby, exploring cases that caused chaos and captured public attention. With empathy, curiosity, and just enough banter, we break down the story, the psychology, and the public reaction that kept people talking. At the center of every case are real people who should still be here today. We focus on who they were, who loved them, and the lives that were taken too soon. We’re always learning and welcome feedback on how to approach these stories with care and respect. ⏩https://linktr.ee/probationbehavior⏪

  1. 3 days ago

    11 | Phoebe Handsjuk: The Fall That Haunts Australia

    In December 2010, 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk was found at the bottom of a garbage chute inside a luxury apartment building in Melbourne, Australia. Her death was officially ruled a tragic accident, or death by misadventure. But from the beginning, Phoebe’s family believed the explanation did not match the evidence. This week, we walk through who Phoebe was, her relationship with Antony Hampel, the discovery at the Balencea apartment building, the autopsy findings, the blood evidence, the questions around the investigation, and the later reenactment that made people question whether the official theory was physically possible. This is a case about a young woman whose struggles were too often used to explain away the things that did not make sense. It is also a case about what happens when mental health, addiction, and victim credibility become part of the story before every question has been answered. Story starts: 10:00 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: ⁠@probationbehavior⁠ ⁠Join our Patreon⁠ Email: ⁠probationbehavior@gmail.com⁠ Case request form: ⁠Submit a case request⁠ Sources: ABC News: Woman who fell down garbage chute was sleepwalking, coroner saysABC News: Coroner investigates whether drugs played role in garbage chute death9News: The mystery death of Phoebe Handsjuk9Now: Under Investigation, Phoebe Handsjuk episodeMarie Claire Australia: Phoebe Handsjuk investigationSBS News: Coroner to examine garbage chute deathPhoebe Handsjuk family websiteTo learn more about Phoebe’s case and her family’s fight for answers: ⁠Visit the Phoebe Handsjuk family website⁠ If you are in Australia and have information related to this case or any crime: contact Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1800 333 000 or submit a report online at ⁠Crime Stoppers Australia⁠. In an emergency, call 000.

    1hr 8min
  2. 4 Jun

    9 | Michael Jackson: His Legacy, His Allegations, and the Doctor Who Killed Him

    In this episode, Ally covers the complicated life, legacy, and death of Michael Jackson, with a little extra atmosphere because we recorded during a full torrential downpour, so yes, that is real thunder you hear in the background. From his childhood in the Jackson family machine to his rise as one of the most influential performers in history, we look at the brilliance, pressure, public scrutiny, family dynamics, vitiligo, Neverland, relationships, fatherhood, and allegations that shaped the way the world saw him. But this story starts and ends with the question that sparked the episode: what really happened when Michael Jackson died? His death was not just a vague celebrity overdose. It was ruled a homicide, and his personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter after giving him propofol, a surgical anesthetic, in a private bedroom. We also discuss the 1993 allegations, the 2005 trial and acquittal, the posthumous allegations in Leaving Neverland, Michael’s children, the public divide over his legacy, and why his death raises bigger questions about fame, addiction, medical ethics, and who is responsible when the people around a vulnerable celebrity are supposed to protect them. Story starts: 13:09 We’re so happy you’re here. Follow along, share your thoughts, send us case suggestions, or submit a case request: Instagram: ⁠@probationbehavior⁠ ⁠Join our Patreon⁠ Email: ⁠probationbehavior@gmail.com⁠ Case request form: ⁠Submit a case request⁠ Sources: Los Angeles County Department of Coroner, Michael Jackson Autopsy ReportFBI Records: Michael JacksonPeople, “Michael Jackson Was Over $500 Million in Debt at Time of Death, New Court Documents Reveal”Associated Press reporting on Michael Jackson’s Pepsi commercial accident and burn injuryLos Angeles Times reporting on Jermaine Jackson’s “Word to the Badd!!”Britannica, “Michael Jackson”Britannica, “Billie Jean”Time reporting on the Berlin balcony incidentNME reporting on Paris Jackson’s comments about wearing masks as a childPeople reporting on Michael Jackson’s childrenPeople reporting on Neverland Ranch / Sycamore Valley RanchPeople reporting on Michael Jackson’s exotic animalsThe Guardian reporting on Dr. Conrad Murray’s involuntary manslaughter convictionCNN reporting on Dr. Conrad Murray’s involuntary manslaughter convictionReporting and court summaries on the 1993 Jordan Chandler allegations and settlementReporting and court summaries on the 2005 Gavin Arvizo trial and Michael Jackson’s acquittalHBO’s Leaving Neverland and related reporting on Wade Robson and James SafechuckThe Guardian reporting on Michael Jackson’s biopic and Paris Jackson’s criticismVariety reporting on Michael biopic reshoots and allegation-related materialMichael Jackson: The Making of ThrillerMichael Jackson’s Thriller, directed by John LandisLiving with Michael Jackson, Martin Bashir documentaryTake Two: The Footage You Were Never Meant to See

    1hr 47min

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Probation Behavior is a true crime podcast hosted by Ally and Abby, exploring cases that caused chaos and captured public attention. With empathy, curiosity, and just enough banter, we break down the story, the psychology, and the public reaction that kept people talking. At the center of every case are real people who should still be here today. We focus on who they were, who loved them, and the lives that were taken too soon. We’re always learning and welcome feedback on how to approach these stories with care and respect. ⏩https://linktr.ee/probationbehavior⏪

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