Divergent States

Divergent States
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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor. This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform. No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions. We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes. Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman. Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy. If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show. If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States. New episodes every two weeks.

  1. 5日前

    The Counterculture of Aging: Abbie Rosner on Psychedelics and Elderhood

    What can psychedelics offer when the question is no longer “Who am I becoming?” but “What do I do with the life I’ve already lived?” Abbie Rosner, author of Psychedelics and the Counterculture of Aging, joins 3L1T3 and Bryan for a grounded conversation about psychedelic use among older adults and the possibility of reimagining later life as a period of healing, meaning, creativity, intimacy, and renewed purpose. Drawing on conversations with 36 older psychonauts, Abbie discusses how maturity and life experience can change a psychedelic journey. They explore psilocybin and aging, mortality and the fear of death, unresolved trauma and shame, grief, spirituality, cognitive liberty, community, and what it means to consciously become an elder. The conversation also examines the practical realities often missing from discussions about psychedelics and seniors: medication interactions, heart health, medical screening, choosing a trustworthy facilitator, underground ceremonies, state-regulated psilocybin programs, commercialization, informed consent, and the limits of current research. Abbie also shares her vision for Elder Vision Circles, communities where older adults could prepare, journey, integrate, and support one another through the challenges of aging. This is not a conversation about finding a fountain of youth. It is about confronting mortality without surrendering curiosity, connection, or the right to explore your own mind. This episode is for educational purposes and is not medical advice. Psychedelics carry psychological, physical, legal, and social risks, particularly for older adults managing medications or existing health conditions. Psychedelic use among older adults is not simply nostalgia or an attempt to relive the 1960s.Maturity, therapy, meditation, loss, and accumulated life experience can fundamentally change a person’s relationship with altered states.Psychedelics may help older adults examine mortality before they are actively approaching the end of life.Later-life journeys can create opportunities to process grief, childhood trauma, shame, regret, and relationships that have remained unresolved for decades.Several older adults Abbie interviewed described their later years as the happiest and most authentic period of their lives.Conscious elderhood reframes aging as a stage of growth, creativity, activism, service, intimacy, and community rather than inevitable decline.Older adults face specific risks involving prescription medications, cardiovascular health, medical conditions, mobility, and psychological vulnerability.Trust, screening, preparation, and integration are essential when selecting a psychedelic facilitator or ceremonial setting.The distinction between psychedelic therapy, wellness, spirituality, and ordinary human meaning is often much less clear than institutions suggest.Abbie’s proposed Elder Vision Circles would combine education, community service, psychedelic preparation, group experience, and long-term integration.Music by Dyl👽Alien - Four Twenty Three Chapters 00:00 – Why Psychedelic Culture Overlooks Older Adults 02:36 – Aging, Harm Reduction, and Today’s Guest 06:17 – Abbie Rosner Joins the Conversation 06:24 – Returning to Psychedelics Later in Life 09:23 – Why Wait Until Death’s Door? 10:18 – 36 Older Psychonauts and a New Counterculture 13:44 – Psychedelics After 65 and the Questions of Later Life 17:23 – Maturity, Intention, and Conscious Elderhood 20:44 – Psychedelics and the Fear of Aging 24:27 – Letting Go, Mortality, and Living in the Present 28:22 – Love, Shame, and Reclaiming Life at 70 32:03 – Medical Risks, Medications, and Facilitator Screening 36:34 – Legal Access, Underground Ceremonies, and Commercialization 42:37 – Psychedelic Therapy Versus Psychedelic Wellness 45:26 – Integration and Becoming a Better Elder 47:12 – Alzheimer’s, Consent, and Ethical Limits 49:48 – Advice for Psychedelic-Curious Older Adults 51:17 – Reimagining the Meaning of Old Age 53:30 – Public Episode Close and Patreon Preview Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    The Counterculture of Aging: Abbie Rosner on Psychedelics and Elderhood

  2. 7月21日

    Naked Out Loud: Machan Taylor on Memory, Music, and MDMA Therapy

    Machan Taylor has spent a lifetime using her voice. As a singer, songwriter, performer, and author of Naked Out Loud, she has worked with artists including Pink Floyd, Pat Benatar, George Benson, Hiroshima, Foreigner, and more. But this conversation is not about the glamorous parts of a music career. It is about memory, trauma, identity, and the parts of ourselves we leave behind. Machan joins 3L1T3 and Bryan for a grounded conversation about her memoir, her childhood in Japan, the grief of leaving her grandmother and first home behind, and the MDMA-assisted therapy session that helped her reconnect with the little girl she had carried inside for decades. Together, they discuss what psychedelic therapy can reveal, why integration matters, how performance can become both protection and belonging, and what it means to stop being defined by an old wound without erasing the story that shaped you. No hype. No miracle claims. Just a deeply human conversation about music, memory, healing, and the courage to be naked out loud. Music by Sndbagz - Days Gone Key Points: Machan Taylor discusses why she opened Naked Out Loud with MDMA-assisted therapy instead of her work with major artists.She describes the childhood trauma of leaving Japan, her grandmother, and her first sense of home behind.The conversation explores the whale image from her MDMA session as a guide back into memory and grief.Machan explains how MDMA therapy helped her emotionally understand pain she had only intellectually known before.The episode looks at trauma as an “operating system” that can quietly shape identity, belonging, and self-worth.Machan talks about the difference between changing the facts of a story and changing one’s relationship to those facts.The discussion emphasizes integration as the essential work after psychedelic-assisted therapy.Machan reflects on performance, applause, imposter syndrome, and the way music became both healing and protection.The Patreon section goes deeper into what actually happens inside a guided MDMA therapy session.The episode keeps a harm-reduction frame: psychedelic therapy can be powerful, but it is not casual, simple, or one-and-done.Chapters 00:00  Cold Open: The Journey Back 01:42  Introducing Machon Taylor 05:28  From Pink Floyd to Personal Healing 07:19  Why Begin the Book with MDMA? 09:23  The Whale That Led Her Home 14:12  MDMA Therapy and Childhood Trauma 19:42  The Body Keeps the Score 22:09  Going Deeper Than Talk Therapy 27:06  The Meaning of the Whale 29:09  Speaking to the Child Left Behind 31:40  Your Story Without Being Defined by It 34:36  Trauma as an Operating System 40:31  Performing, Identity, and Belonging 43:13  Healing the Younger Self 46:25  Naked Out Loud and Human Vulnerability 49:02  It's Never Too Late to Heal 50:37  Where to Find Machon's Book 51:34  Patreon Preview & Zendo Project 54:39  Post-Interview Reflections Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    Naked Out Loud: Machan Taylor on Memory, Music, and MDMA Therapy

  3. 7月7日

    The Art of Psychedelic Peer Support | Zendo Project

    What actually happens when a psychedelic experience becomes overwhelming in the middle of a concert, festival, or crowded event? 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Case Newsom, emergency medicine physician and medical director of the Zendo Project, to explore the practical art of psychedelic peer support. Case explains why helping someone through a difficult trip often means resisting the urge to take control, offering simple choices, and creating enough safety for the experience to unfold. They also discuss Zendo’s integration with medical and security teams at Red Rocks, why emergency rooms can intensify psychedelic distress, and how compassionate on-site care can prevent unnecessary restraint, sedation, and hospitalization. Case shares how one major Denver event went from 54 hospital transports to 17 after psychedelic peer support was embedded alongside medical services. The conversation expands beyond festivals into the larger need for harm reduction, community support, and psychedelic literacy as these substances become increasingly accessible. Disclosure: 3L1T3 and Bryan are Zendo Project Ambassadors. They are volunteers, not employees, but may receive financial benefit when listeners use the code DIVERGENTS10 for eligible Zendo Project training programs. Learn more at ZendoProject.org. Key Points What psychedelic peer support looks like in practiceThe difference between supporting an experience and trying to control itWhy presence can be more helpful than offering solutionsHow Zendo combines peer support with medical triageBringing psychedelic harm reduction into Red RocksWorking alongside security, EMTs, and venue staffHow on-site support can reduce unnecessary hospital transportsWhy emergency rooms can intensify psychedelic distressThe importance of consent and non-directive languageSupporting someone whose friends have abandoned or overwhelmed themThe difference between a difficult trip and a traumatic experienceWhy integration and follow-up support matterBuilding safer systems for underground psychedelic useHow this work changed Case’s own relationship with psychedelicsMusic is Hourglass Hustlin' - Flintwick 00:00:00 A Difficult Trip at Red Rocks 00:01:45 What Psychedelic Peer Support Looks Like 00:03:20 Zendo Disclosure 00:05:19 Meet Case Newsom 00:06:55 From Emergency Medicine to Zendo 00:11:08 The Origins of the Zendo Project 00:13:25 Supporting Without Directing 00:16:28 Learning How to Be Present 00:17:11 Receiving Peer Support 00:19:07 Resisting the Urge to Fix 00:20:32 Choices Instead of Control 00:23:19 The Mushroom Tent Story 00:25:39 Bringing Zendo to Red Rocks 00:27:04 Building Peer Support Into First Aid 00:29:26 Security, Medical, and Psychological Safety 00:30:24 Reducing Ambulance Transports 00:33:13 Why the ER Can Make Trips Worse 00:36:01 Stigma, Authority, and Trust 00:39:06 Creating Connection in a Crisis 00:42:41 The Gaps in Psychedelic Harm Reduction 00:46:33 Underground Communities and Safety 00:48:46 The Future of Zendo 00:53:06 Why Venues Need Peer Support 00:54:28 How Presence Prevents Panic 00:58:01 Closing the Public Interview 01:00:08 Episode Outro Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    The Art of Psychedelic Peer Support | Zendo Project

  4. 6月23日

    Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis

    Dori Lewis is a psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, Natural Medicine Facilitator, and Co-Founder of Elemental Psychedelics. She also owns Reflective Healing Center, one of Colorado's licensed psychedelic healing centers. As psychedelic therapy moves from the underground into legal clinics and state-regulated systems, a difficult question emerges: what actually makes someone qualified to guide another person through a psychedelic experience? In this conversation, we explore the gap between licensing and competency, facilitator ethics, psychedelic training, integration, commercialization, spiritual authority, and the challenges of scaling psychedelic care without losing the human element that makes it effective. We also discuss Colorado's natural medicine program, the role of personal psychedelic experience in facilitator training, the risks of "guru culture," and why Dori believes psychedelics are powerful tools—but not magic bullets. In the Patreon integration segment, we go deeper into awe, mystery, institutionalization, underground versus clinical models, and what the psychedelic movement may still be unwilling to admit about itself. Music is Barefoot - Flintwick Key PointsColorado's legal psychedelic facilitation modelWhat a facilitator license does—and doesn't—guaranteeThe difference between enthusiasm and readinessWhy integration matters more than most people realizeThe "guru complex" in psychedelic cultureFacilitator ethics and unconscious projectionLicensing vs competencyCommercialization and accessibility challengesWhy psychedelic therapy remains expensiveInsurance, legalization, and barriers to careMysticism, awe, and psychedelic experiencesThe future of psychedelic care in the United StatesWhy psychedelics are not a magic bulletChapters 00:00:00 Who Should Be Allowed to Facilitate Psychedelic Experiences? 00:04:05 Meet Dori Lewis 00:04:12 From Psychonaut to Psychotherapist 00:06:01 Set, Setting, and the Ethics of Facilitation 00:09:01 Enthusiasm vs. Readiness to Facilitate 00:10:26 Building a Relationship with Psilocybin 00:14:39 Integration and the Psychedelic Guru Complex 00:17:14 What a Colorado Facilitator License Actually Guarantees 00:20:33 Common Mistakes New Facilitators Make 00:23:40 Projection, Accountability, and Ethical Repair 00:27:29 Institutional Blind Spots in Psychedelic Therapy 00:29:47 Quiet Ethical Failures vs. Obvious Misconduct 00:32:28 Romanticizing Boundaries and Difficult Experiences 00:35:26 Preventing the Accidental Guru 00:36:50 Can Psychedelic Care Scale Ethically? 00:43:28 Accessibility and Reasons for Hope 00:45:06 What Should Survive from Underground Psychedelic Culture? 00:46:37 Public Episode Wrap-Up and Patreon Preview 00:50:39 Final Takeaways with 3L1T3 and Bryan 00:52:55 Closing and Resources Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    Who Should Be Allowed to Guide Psychedelic Experiences? | Dori Lewis

  5. 6月8日

    The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery

    Former NFL player and College Football Hall of Famer Robert Gallery joins Divergent States for one of the most raw conversations we’ve had on the show. After retiring from professional football, Robert began experiencing intense rage episodes, suicidal thoughts, emotional instability, brain fog, and severe PTSD-like symptoms linked to repeated head trauma and brain injury from years in the NFL. What followed wasn’t a clean or simple recovery story. We talk about identity loss after professional sports, invisible brain injuries, emotional dysregulation, alcoholism, suicide ideation, veterans and athletes sharing similar trauma patterns, and why psychedelic-assisted therapy — particularly Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT — became a turning point in his life. This episode isn’t really about “getting high.” It’s about what happens when the system fails, your brain changes, and you’re left trying to figure out who you are afterward. We also discuss: The psychological cost of repeated head traumaRage responses and emotional volatilityPTSD similarities between veterans and athletesThe dangers of untreated brain injuryWhy Robert nearly gave up hopeIbogaine therapy and psychedelic-assisted recoveryIntegration, routine, meditation, and rebuilding identityAthletes For Care and helping other athletes find treatmentPatreon members get access to the extended Integration Session, where we discuss the risks of Ibogaine, safety concerns, treatment settings, and broader conversations around psychedelic therapy and harm reduction. If the public episode is the trip, the Patreon edition is the integration. Music is by [Drip] - Mr. Postman https://athletesforcare.org/ Chapters: 00:00 Intro – When Brain Injury Changes Who You Are 01:05 Why Football Trauma Is More Than Physical 03:41 Robert Gallery Joins the Show 04:05 Life After Football & Losing Identity 05:43 Rage, Anxiety & Early Warning Signs 07:51 Realizing Something Was Seriously Wrong 09:25 Athletes, Veterans & PTSD Parallels 10:57 Repetitive Head Trauma & The Cost of Football 12:10 The Brain Scan That Changed Everything 13:43 Suicide Ideation, Shame & Hopelessness 15:12 Suffering in Silence 16:22 Asking for Help 17:07 Why Vulnerability Saved His Life 18:15 Discovering Ibogaine Through Veterans 18:50 What Rage Actually Felt Like 21:12 Was It Really Him—or Brain Injury? 22:45 Trying Conventional Treatments First 25:12 Running Out of Options 25:39 Finding Hope in Ibogaine 28:07 The Decision to Go to Mexico 30:21 The Ibogaine Experience 33:39 5-MeO-DMT & "Turning the Lights Back On" 35:54 Coming Home Changed 38:01 Why Healing Isn't One and Done 39:28 Returning for a Second Treatment 41:23 Growth vs Survival 42:50 Building a New Life Through Routine 43:57 Athletes For Care 46:23 Public Episode Outro 48:28 Integration Session Intro 48:42 Misdiagnosis, Trauma & Identity 50:05 Anger, Trauma & Nearly Losing Control 50:40 Neuroplasticity & Recovery 51:16 Support the Show Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    The NFL Broke His Brain… Then Ibogaine Changed Everything | Robert Gallery

  6. 5月19日

    The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker

    Dennis Walker joins Divergent States to unpack how psychedelic stories actually become “news,” why sensationalism dominates drug coverage, and how media narratives shape public perception around psychedelics. We discuss psychedelic exceptionalism, corporate psychedelics, satire as social critique, harm reduction, underground culture, MAPS, FDA approval, clinical gatekeeping, psychedelic tourism, and the growing divide between real-world psychedelic use and institutional messaging. Dennis is a journalist, satirist, and creator of Mycopreneur, known for blending humor, gonzo journalism, and cultural criticism to explore the psychedelic ecosystem from angles most outlets avoid. Topics: Why bad drug stories spread fasterPsychedelic journalism and narrative controlCorporate psychedelics vs underground cultureWhy satire works in psychedelic spacesFDA approval and clinical gatekeepingPsychedelic tourism and ethicsThe “good drug / bad drug” double standardMAPS, media narratives, and psychedelic exceptionalismCheck out Dennis' work at https://www.mycopreneur.com/ Patreon supporters get the extended Integration Session and early access to episodes: patreon.com/divergentstates  Music by Sandbgz  Chapters: 00:00 – Why Psychedelic Narratives Matter  04:38 – Dennis Walker on Satire, Psychedelics & Media  08:11 – When Psychedelics Became Politics & Money  10:56 – How Drug Narratives Shape Public Opinion  15:27 – Why Satire Works Better Than Lectures  18:07 – Why Negative Drug Stories Dominate Headlines  23:32 – Good Drugs vs Bad Drugs in Media Coverage  28:26 – The Push Toward Clinical-Only Psychedelic Use  34:02 – Who Controls Psychedelic Journalism?  37:19 – The Missing Voices in Psychedelic Media  42:13 – Field Reporting, Community & Psychedelic Culture  46:16 – Social Media, Framing & Manufactured Narratives  50:26 – Building a Healthier Psychedelic Culture  55:00 – Patreon Integration Session Transition  58:13 – Final Reflections & Why These Conversations Matter  01:00:40 – Outro Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker

  7. 5月5日

    Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

    Psychedelics don’t fix your life. They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come back. In this episode, we sit down with Talia Eisenberg from Beond to talk about what actually happens after a powerful psychedelic experience—especially with ibogaine. What changes, what doesn’t, and why the hardest part is often what comes after. We get into: why insight isn’t the same as changewhat people misunderstand about “healing”the unglamorous reality of recovery and integrationwhy some people aren’t ready for these experiencesand what it really takes to make those changes stickThis isn’t a conversation about breakthroughs or peak experiences. It’s about what holds up when the experience ends. 🎧 Music: Hyperspace — Sndbagz 🎙️ Divergent States is a podcast exploring psychedelics without the hype—focused on harm reduction, integration, and what actually works in the real world. Chapters: 00:00 – Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life 01:17 – Harm Reduction Matters (Zendo Project) 03:08 – Meet Talia Eisenberg (Ibogaine & Recovery) 04:05 – What Psychedelics Don’t Fix 06:32 – Agency, Accountability, and Hard Truths 07:35 – Addiction, Ibogaine, and Starting Over 10:04 – Life After the Trip: Real Change 11:25 – Optimization vs Avoidance 13:26 – Psychedelics Don’t Replace Responsibility 14:39 – Spiritual Bypassing (Ketamine, MDMA, Psilocybin) 17:11 – Why Ibogaine Forces Honesty 20:07 – Escaping vs Doing the Work 20:59 – Do Psychedelics Delay Change? 22:33 – Who Struggles Most After Psychedelics 24:08 – The “Reset” Myth 26:19 – What Actually Changes After Ibogaine 30:05 – What Doesn’t Change 31:41 – The Comedown: Emotional Whiplash 34:00 – Healthy Discomfort vs Avoidance 36:58 – Struggle Isn’t Failure 38:48 – Power, Clinics, and Psychedelic Ethics 44:19 – Red Flags: Gurus, Clinics, and Safety 47:36 – You Don’t Need Ibogaine 48:58 – What We Cut (Patreon Preview) 52:20 – Final Thoughts + Support the Show Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg

  8. 4月21日

    Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways

    If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Steve Levine, psychiatrist and Chief Patient Officer at Compass Pathways, to break down their newly released Phase 3 clinical trial results for COMP360 psilocybin therapy. But this isn’t a hype piece. This is a critical look at what the data actually shows—and what people might be getting wrong. We explore: – What Phase 3 trials really mean (and why they often fail) – Why a “3.8 point improvement” is more significant than it sounds – The difference between clinical psilocybin therapy and underground use – Why one or two sessions may work—but not for everyone – The role of neuroplasticity, subjective experience, and “set & setting” – Why scaling psychedelic therapy is harder than it looks – The tension between commercialization and psychedelic culture – What FDA approval would—and wouldn’t—change Compass Pathways has now run over 1,000 participants across Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials, showing statistically significant results in treatment-resistant depression. But translating that into real-world treatment is a completely different challenge. This conversation pulls back the curtain on what it actually takes to turn psychedelics into medicine—and where the limitations still are. Because this show isn’t about psychedelics being amazing. It’s about understanding what’s true… and what holds up under scrutiny. 🎧 Subscribe to Divergent States for grounded, skeptical conversations in psychedelic science, culture, and harm reduction. 💬 Join the community Discord via r/Psychonaut (link in subreddit) 🎶 Music: Elemental by [Drip]  ⚠️ This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice.  Chapters:  00:00 If Psychedelics Work, Why Daily Medication?  01:15 Why This Isn’t a “Psychedelics Are Amazing” Episode  04:00 From Daily Pills to 1–2 Treatments  06:45 Why Ketamine Wasn’t the Breakthrough  09:25 What Phase 3 Trials Actually Prove (And Don’t)  12:50 What Regulators Are Really Looking For  14:25 What a “3.8 Score Improvement” Actually Means  15:55 Psychedelic Hype vs Reality  18:30 What Actually Stood Out in the Data  21:40 Why Psychedelics Work Faster  24:55 Is the Experience Part of the Treatment?  25:45 Why Set and Setting Still Matter  30:10 Will This Ever Be At-Home?  33:00 Why Therapists Don’t “Do Therapy” Here  34:40 The Real Problem: Scaling Access  39:00 Commercialization vs Psychedelic Culture  43:00 What Are the Actual Risks?  45:10 What Success Looks Like in 10 Years  47:10 Why Access Matters More Than Approval  49:50 Why This Fails in the Real World  52:10 Outro + Patreon Integration Session  Send us Fan Mail FiresideProject.org Download the app or text/call 62-FIRESIDE Zendo ProjectOur listeners get 10% off the Zendo Project SIT Program with the code DIVERGENTS10Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show Special Thanks to our Macrodosers, Super D and Mike, and our Thumbprint Tier member, Angie on Patreon!   https://linktr.ee/3L1T3Mod

    Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways
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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do. Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor. This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform. No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions. We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes. Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman. Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy. If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show. If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States. New episodes every two weeks.

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