Is homeschooling worth it? It’s the question almost every parent on the fence keeps asking, and in this episode of the Future Learners podcast, Ellen Brown puts it to someone with eight years of answers. David Smith, a long-time Euka parent, talks through what it was really like to homeschool three children. David’s family didn’t come to homeschooling looking for something better on paper. They came looking for a way out of a school where his eldest son, who is on the autism spectrum and has ADHD, was being bullied and wasn’t thriving. David covers the whole journey: deciding to leave, telling the school, the first six to twelve months, keeping learning fluid rather than recreating school at home, discovering hidden strengths in subjects like maths, using AI as a patient tutor, and watching an eldest son who once “wasn’t working at all” move confidently into the workforce. He also shares the small, practical things that worked for his family. A whiteboard maths race with his middle son. Letting the kids build their own timetable. Staying involved even after a long day at work. Want to have a positive impact on thousands of families like you? Leave us an audio question or share your homeschooling journey — anonymously if you like. Real questions from real families help us bring more value to every episode. Send us a message We're listening Send us your voice message Up to two minutes. Speak in your own words Your name Email Send message anonymously ● Tap the red dot to start Re-record Download I'm happy for Euka to keep this recording and to share it (or part of it) on the Future Learners Podcast. See our privacy policy. Yes, let me know when new episodes drop. Fresh conversations every week — unsubscribe any time. Send to the Future Learners team Thanks — we've got it. Brett, Ellen and the team will give it a listen. Keep an ear out — we'll let you know if your message features in an upcoming episode. Key Points David’s homeschooling journey, in brief: Why they started: persistent bullying and an eldest son on the autism spectrum with ADHD who wasn’t fitting in, with a year-three teacher warning he wouldn’t thrive at high school. Telling the school: the family quietly ran homeschooling in parallel at first, and found the school more supportive than they’d feared. The first six to twelve months: hidden strengths surfaced fast, including an undiscovered passion for maths, once the pressure of the classroom was gone. Keeping it fluid: letting the kids choose subjects and build their own timetable so homeschooling never felt like “school again.” AI and the internet as tools: using ChatGPT to break maths down step by step, and giving kids the freedom to research anything. From homeschool to the workforce: an eldest son who “nailed it” from day one in a customer-facing job, and a middle son mapping a pathway towards becoming a GP. Advice for parents on the fence: you know your kids better than anyone, so don’t leave the decision too long. Practical ideas from David’s family: Use a whiteboard “who can solve it first” race to make maths feel like a game rather than a chore. Let a child keep going in a subject they love rather than holding them to one week at a time. Use “misdirection” when a subject stalls. Switch to PE, the park, or arts and crafts, then come back to it. Learn alongside your child when a subject scared you at school, instead of pretending to know it all. Where the homeschooling journey started Like a lot of families, David’s homeschooling journey didn’t begin with a plan. It began with a problem the school couldn’t solve. His eldest son, a “beautiful, beautiful kid” who is on the autism spectrum and has ADHD, was being bullied, wasn’t fitting in, and David was being called into the office a lot. (If that’s your family’s starting point too, our guide to homeschooling on the spectrum and special needs homeschooling walks through what it can look like.) David describes a trap many parents fall into: assuming that because someone trained to be a teacher, they must be able to teach your child better than you can. When he searched online, most options overwhelmed him with “oodles and oodles of material” that wouldn’t work around his job and his wife’s day at home. Then the family found Complete Education Australia, which evolved into Euka, with the work laid out in manageable weekly chunks. Once his son started working through it, David could see a change straight away. He was focussed and giving far more of himself than before. “The outcome was phenomenal… we could see that he was focussed, that he was actually giving a lot more of himself to his work.”— David Smith, Euka parent They applied for homeschool, and, as David puts it, “the rest, literally eight years later, here we are now.” Telling the school One of the most common worries for parents leaving mainstream school is how the school will react. David’s family were concerned enough that they ran homeschooling in parallel at first, without telling the school, worried that fighting the system would only invite roadblocks. In the end, the school was more supportive than they expected. David believes that, deep down, the teachers had his son’s best interests at heart and could see this was something they couldn’t control. The moment that made the decision for him was a teacher warning that his son, leaving year three, wouldn’t thrive at high school. It was the kind of comment that makes alarm bells ring and sends a parent into overdrive, asking what they can do to make sure their kids get a good education, and a safe one. Ellen is careful to add that a supportive response isn’t a given for every family. But she reframes the underlying issue warmly: schools often do care, yet the system simply isn’t built for the individual child, with one teacher and 28 children in a classroom. Where a family can share their concerns and get a supportive response, she says, it’s a wonderful thing. Making homeschooling fluid, not another school The turning point in David’s story is a mindset shift. Homeschooling only worked once the family stopped trying to recreate school at home. The kids didn’t want to do maths every Monday, David explains, because if they knew maths was coming every Monday, it suddenly became almost like school again. So they let the children choose their subjects and build their own timetable. Ellen connects this to a deliberate design choice in the Euka program. The lessons are grouped into weeks rather than pinned to named days. There are five maths lessons and five English lessons a week, with no days attached, precisely so families can flow with what suits their child. David is honest that the first couple of weeks are an adjustment for everyone, and it’s easy to hit the panic button. His advice is to persevere, and to use what his wife calls “misdirection.” If maths isn’t working, go outside, do PE, or get the arts and crafts out, and come back to it later. Nothing, he says, is set in stone. When maths stops being scary Maths is the subject that scares parents most, and it’s where David’s story offers the most hope. At school, his eldest was “average, borderline on everything,” and sometimes below. At home, within weeks, a completely different picture emerged. “We found out he had a passion for maths that had gone undiscovered.”— David Smith Two things made the difference. The first was time and patience, without the classroom rushing on to the next thing. The second was technology. Where a school lesson moves on whether or not a child understood it, AI will wait. David describes sitting down with ChatGPT and asking it to “hold you by the hand,” breaking things down very easily with no rush, especially where maths is concerned. Ellen builds on this for parents who fear maths themselves. Missing one “little nugget” in maths snowballs, she explains, because maths needs its building blocks, which is why so many adults wrongly decide they’re “hopeless” at it. Her encouragement is to model curiosity instead of certainty. Even saying to your child, “I actually don’t know that either, let’s have a look together,” is a fantastic le