Data Renegades

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Exploring data, code, culture, and everything in between.

  1. 16 Jun

    Ep. #13, Building Trillion-Scale Data Pipelines with Josh Wills

    On episode 13 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Josh Wills to explore how AI agents are reshaping software engineering, data science, and data infrastructure. They discuss verification, benchmarking, pre-training data pipelines, multimodal AI, and why understanding a problem may matter more than writing code. Josh also shares lessons learned from decades of building large-scale data systems and his journey from management back to hands-on engineering.

    1hr 11min

  2. 26 May

    Ep. #12, Agent Orchestration at Scale with Maxime Beauchemin

    On episode 12 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Maxime Beauchemin to explore what happens when software teams start working alongside armies of AI agents. Max shares the thinking behind Agor, his collaborative platform for orchestrating coding agents, and reflects on how AI is reshaping engineering, product, design, and data work. They also dive into the future of agentic workflows, technical collaboration, and what human roles may look like in the years ahead.

    1hr 9min

  3. 28 Apr

    Ep. #11, Contrarian Bets and AI Skepticism with Michael Stonebraker

    On episode 11 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Michael Stonebraker, legendary database pioneer and creator of Ingres and Postgres. They explore the origins of modern relational databases, why specialized systems outperform one-size-fits-all platforms, and what today’s AI hype gets wrong about enterprise data. Stonebraker also shares hard-earned lessons on startups, research, and staying relevant over five decades in tech.

    52 min

  4. 7 Apr

    Ep. #10, Data Modeling Matters Most with Toby Mao

    On episode 10 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Toby Mao. They explore how real-world data problems at Netflix and Airbnb led to the creation of SQLGlot and SQLMesh, and why data modeling remains the hardest challenge in data engineering. The conversation also dives into how AI is reshaping engineering workflows, without replacing the need for strong architectural thinking.

    38 min

  5. 3 Mar

    Ep. #9, Radical Accountability in Software with Wes McKinney

    On episode 9 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Wes McKinney, creator of Pandas and co-creator of Apache Arrow. They explore how AI coding agents are reshaping software development, why data infrastructure remains surprisingly resistant to automation, and what semantic layers mean for the future of analytics. Wes also shares bold predictions about “radical accountability” in software and the changing bar for startups.

    59 min

  6. 17 Feb

    Ep. #8, One Human Plus Agents with Scott Breitenother

    On episode 8 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Scott Breitenother to explore how AI is reshaping the modern data stack and redefining the role of data teams. They discuss the evolution from spreadsheets to autonomous agents, the realities of data democratization, and why future workflows may revolve around one human working alongside multiple AI assistants. The conversation blends practical lessons from building Brooklyn Data and Kilo Code with forward-looking predictions about the next wave of data tooling.

    45 min

  7. 3 Feb

    Ep. #7, Truth-Seeking Data Systems with Bryan Bischof

    On episode 7 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Bryan Bischof to explore his journey from pure mathematics to building real-world ML systems. They dig into recommender systems, surprising data bugs, and why truth-seeking should guide data teams. The conversation also covers modern data tools, visualization limits, and the realities of “self-serve” analytics.

    1hr 13min

  8. 13 Jan

    Ep. #6, From Big Data to Curiosity-Driven Insight with Roger Magoulas

    On episode 6 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson speak with Roger Magoulas about the real bottlenecks holding data organizations back. From the origins of “big data” to today’s explosion of tools and pipelines, the conversation focuses on why understanding, semantics, and communication matter more than ever. The episode is a call to shift from constant firefighting toward curiosity-driven insight.

    57 min
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Exploring data, code, culture, and everything in between.

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  • Creator
    Heavybit
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    13
  • Rating
    Explicit
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