In Those Genes

In Those Genes

The only narrative science podcast where genetics and Black culture come together to tell the stories carried in our DNA.

  1. 2 days ago

    “A Portal to The Next Version of Yourself”: When Menopause Means Freedom

    For as long as Vena Moore can remember, she’s had painful periods. She started menstruating earlier than most, in fifth grade, and later found out that the years of discomfort and pain were due to fibroids growing in her uterus. So when in her late 30s Vena entered perimenopause – the pregame to menopause – she found the change freeing and firmly embraced it.  In this episode, we dive into the science behind why Black people tend to start puberty earlier, what scientists know about the genetic and environmental factors behind fibroids, and how genetics may influence when menopause begins and how it is experienced. . In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language and discussions about early puberty, sexual harassment, menstruation, reproductive pain, fibroids, menopause, asexuality, and gender-affirming healthcare that may not be suitable for all listeners. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript, affectionately known as The Nucleus, which will be available soon. . Want to learn more about the guests featured in this episode? Check out their work below. Vena Moore is a Brooklyn-based writer whose personal essays and social commentary explore race, gender, aging, relationships, neurodivergence, and the freedom of living life on her own terms. You can read her work on Medium, where she writes about everything from dismantling white male supremacy to proudly embracing life as a cat lady. https://vmoore472.medium.com/ Omisade Burney-Scott is a seventh-generation Black Southern feminist, storyteller, social justice advocate, and the creator of The Black Girl’s Guide to Surviving Menopause. Through storytelling, art, community gatherings, and intergenerational conversations, her work centers the experiences of Black women, femmes, trans people, and gender-expansive people navigating menopause and aging. https://blackgirlsguidetosurvivingmenopause.com/ Instagram: @omisadeburneyscott Instagram: @blackgirlsguidetomenopause Dr. Sarah-Ann Anderson-Burnett is a pediatrician and adolescent-health physician whose work centers on reproductive justice, health equity, and patient autonomy. Her insights help us understand puberty, menstrual pain, precocious puberty, puberty blockers, and why young people deserve a voice in decisions about their bodies. Dr. Anderson-Burnett is also the Assistant Vice President of Health and Wellness & Director of Health Services and Quality Improvement at Barnard College. https://barnard.edu/magazine/spring-2023/meet-dr-sarah-ann-anderson-burnett Dr. Veronica Gillispie-Bell is a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist and nationally recognized expert in uterine fibroids and women’s health. She specializes in helping patients understand the full range of treatment options available for fibroids, including alternatives to hysterectomy. Dr. Gillispie-Bell is also an associate professor for Ochsner Health in New Orleans.  https://www.ochsner.org/doctors/veronica-gillispie/ . This episode is part of our 3-part mini-series on reproduction. It’s funded in part by the Greater Good Science Grant on Intellectual Humility, the National Academies' Eric and Wendy Schmidt Awards for Excellence in Science Communications, and listeners like you who donate to the show. In Those Genes is a Black woman-led, independently produced podcast funded by listeners like you. Every episode takes weeks of research, reporting, and production and we’re in the final stretch of producing Season 3. Help us finish the season strong by donating $5, $10, or $20 today!   Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes PayPal:https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Buy Me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/inthosegenes If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend! Follow the show so you don’t miss new episodes, leave us a rating or review to help others find us, and connect with us on socials. However you choose to show your support, thank you fam. We appreciate you! . Additional Resources: The Black Girl’s Guide to Surviving Menopause A Black woman-led, queer-centered multimedia platform using storytelling, art, and community to normalize menopause and aging across the experiences of Black women, femmes, trans people, and gender-expansive people. https://blackgirlsguidetosurvivingmenopause.com/ Power in the Pause A menopause resource hub from the Black Women’s Health Imperative featuring information, tools, and perspectives created with Black women in mind. https://powerinthepause.bwhi.org/resources The Asexual Visibility and Education Network, or AVEN Educational resources, community conversations, and information for people exploring asexuality and the ace spectrum. https://www.asexuality.org/ To learn more about menopause and perimenopause: https://womenshealth.gov/menopause https://womenshealth.gov/menopause/menopause-basics To learn more about uterine fibroids:https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/uterine https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/uterine/conditioninfo/treatments To learn more about puberty and precocious puberty: https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/puberty https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/puberty/conditioninfo . Credits: Guest: Vena Moore Experts: Omisade Burney-Scott Dr. Sarah-Ann Anderson-Burnett Dr. Veronica Gillispie-Bell Lead Producer: Sam Riddell Producers: Janicia Francis, Cinthia Pimentel Music Composition: Warner Meadows Theme Song: DJ Chopp A Lott Additional Music: Chad Mil-Ner Mixing Engineer: Kayden Wong Sound Design: Sam Riddell Booking Producer: Angela Sabblah Marketing Support: Danya AbdelHameid  Cover Art by David Perrin Host & Executive Producer: Dr. Janina Jeff Ringo . Follow Us Instagram: @inthosegenespod Threads: @inthosegenespod Bluesky: @inthosegenespod TikTok: @inthosegenespod www.inthosegenes.com

    “A Portal to The Next Version of Yourself”: When Menopause Means Freedom
  2. 1 Jul

    “I grew up as a little girl and I'm gonna die an old man”: Reproductive Health and PMOS (formerly PCOS) Beyond The Binary

    ***UPDATE: In May 2026, PCOS was renamed Polyendocrine Metabolic Ovarian Syndrome (PMOS). At the timing of this recording the medical name for PMOS was PCOS*** Arrows Fitz lives a very public life. In 2014, he was a cast member on MTV’s The Real World and he’s since racked up millions of views online talking about fashion, androgyny, and his experience navigating the world as a Black transmasculine person. But behind the scenes, Arrows has quietly been dealing with Polycystic Metabolic Ovarian Syndrome (PMOS, formerly referred to as PCOS), a complicated hormone disorder that often goes undiagnosed. In this episode, we follow Arrows’s journey from puberty into adulthood and the years of symptoms that ultimately led to his diagnosis. We break down why puberty is a lot like the New York City subway system: kind of messy and hardly ever on schedule. We also dig into the role genetics plays in PMOS, the unanswered scientific questions about PMOS in Black communities, and why turning 35 doesn't automatically close the door to pregnancy.  In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language and discussions about reproductive health, gender identity, menstruation, fertility, and sexuality that may not be suitable for all listeners. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript, affectionately known as The Nucleus, which will be available soon. . Want to learn more about the guests featured in this episode? Check out their work below. Arrows Fitz is an artist, filmmaker, musician, and fashion influencer living in Los Angeles. He works for a nonprofit by day and makes rock music under his stage name PTEROS by night. You can check out his creative work, including his acclaimed short film "My Mama Wears Timbs," on his YouTube channel and follow his fashion journey on Instagram @ArrowsFitz. Dr. Sarah-Ann Anderson-Burnett is a pediatrician who specializes in reproductive health and sees her patients navigate puberty in real time. Her insights on hormonal development, PCOS, and patient-centered care were invaluable to this episode. Dr. Anderson-Burnett is also the Assistant Vice President of Health and Wellness & Director of Health Services and Quality Improvement at Barnard College. You can follow her work at @drsarahannab on Instagram. Dr. Monica McLemore is a birth equity researcher and advocate for trans and Black birthing people. Her work centers on reproductive justice for marginalized communities. She also holds a Professor position at NYU Meyers. You can follow her work at @mclemoremr on all social media platforms (except Twitter).  This episode is part of our 3-part mini-series on reproduction. It’s funded in part by the Greater Good Science Grant on Intellectual Humility, the National Academies' Eric and Wendy Schmidt Awards for Excellence in Science Communications, and listeners like you who donate to the show. In Those Genes is a Black woman-led, independently produced podcast funded by listeners like you. Every episode takes weeks of research, reporting, and production and we’re in the final stretch of producing Season 3. Help us finish the season strong by donating $5, $10, or $20 today!   Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes PayPal:https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Buy Me a Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/inthosegenes If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend! Follow the show so you don’t miss new episodes, leave us a rating or review to help others find us, and connect with us on socials. However you choose to show your support, thank you fam. We appreciate you! Additional resources: Black Women Birthing Justice: Birth Justice and reproductive justice resources created by and for Black birthing communities. https://www.blackwomenbirthingjustice.com/ Birth Injustice: Pregnancy, Childbirth, and the State (2nd Edition) by Black Women Birthing Justice. Free digital versions available online.  Includes stories, chapters, recommendations from trans people who've had both births and abortions in the latest edition. https://buyetextbook.com/product/birthing-justice-black-women-pregnancy-and-childbirth-2nd-edition-original-pdf/?gad_source=1 The Power and Limits of Classification: A Trans Man's Medical Case Study. Lisa H Harris, MD, published in The New England Journal of Medicine (2019). A case study examining how medical classification systems can both help and hinder care for trans people navigating healthcare systems. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7395710/ . To learn more about PMOS (Polyendocrine Metabolic Ovarian Syndrome, formerly known as PCOS): ACOG (American College of Obstetricians & Gynecologists) - Polycystic Ovary Syndrome FAQ: https://www.acog.org/womens-health/faqs/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-pcos ACOG NICHD PCOS Resources Page: https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/pcos/more_information/resources NICHD Monash University PCOS Center of Excellence (International Guidelines): https://www.monash.edu/research/explore/research-impacts/health/polycystic-ovary-syndrome-pcos NICHD The Endocrine Society - PCOS Information: https://www.endocrine.org/patient-engagement/endocrine-library/pcos N Endocrine Society - PMOS Name Change Information: https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2026/pcos-name-change . To learn more about intersex health and variations in sex development:https://interactadvocates.org/https://isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex/ To learn more about fertility, reproductive aging, and ovarian reserve testing: https://www.acog.org/womens-health/quizzes/having-a-baby-after-age-35. Credits: Guest: Arrows Fitz Experts: Dr. Sarah-Ann Anderson-Burnett, Dr. Monica McLemore Lead Producer: Sam Riddell Producers: Janicia Francis, Cinthia Pimentel Marketing Support: Danya AbdelHameid Music Composition: Warner Meadows Theme Song: DJ Chopp A Lott Additional Music: Chad Milner Mixing Engineer: Kayden Wong Sound Design: Sam Riddell Booking Producer: Angela Sabblah Cover Art by David Perrin Host & Executive Producer: Dr. Janina Jeff Ringo Follow us Instagram: @inthosegenespod Threads: @inthosegenespod Bluesky: @inthosegenespod TikTok: @inthosegenespod www.inthosegenes.com

    “I grew up as a little girl and I'm gonna die an old man”: Reproductive Health and PMOS (formerly PCOS) Beyond The Binary
  3. 03/05/2022

    Baby Got Black

    There’s a commonly held belief that Black folks are thicker, bigger, and carry more fat than others…but where did this idea that our bodies only look a certain way come from? Join us as we disentangle fact from oftentimes fat-phobic fiction when it comes to assumptions about how our bodies are shaped. . In our Season 2 finale, "Baby Got Black", we dissect whether here is a genetic difference between the body shape of Black folks compared to other populations. Black women and men have consistently been exoticisized for their unique body features. We explore the genetics behind this starting with a publication by Dr. Jeff on the genetics of body shape and tell the historical stories behind Venus Hottentot (Sarah Baartman). . In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language that might be difficult for some to hear. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript we affectionately call The Nucleus that will be posted soon. . This is our last episode for Season 2, thanks for being part of the fam! Be sure to follow us on social media to stay up-to-date on Season 3. . Want to learn more about the guests on this episode? Check out their work below. Da'Shaun L. Harrison,@DaShaunLH (Twitter), https://dashaunharrison.com/. Da'Shaun recently published a book on the overlap between anti-fatness and anti-blackness — Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-fatness as Anti-blackness. Here’s where you can get a copy: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/670607/belly-of-the-beast-by-dashaun-harrison/ We also recommend you check out Da’Shaun’s reading list on fat studies, body and desirability politics: https://dashaunharrison.com/fat-studies-body-and-desirability-politics-a-reading-list/ + this video from PBS on why diets fail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLtUrvnmOfc&t=1s . Dr. Sabrina Strings, @SaStrings (Twitter) https://www.sabrinastrings.com/. Dr. Strings is the author of Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia (NYU Press) – a book that was instrumental to this episode. Here’s where you can get a copy: https://nyupress.org/9781479886753/fearing-the-black-body/ . Want to unpack this episode with other In Those Genes Family and like minded folks? If so, be sure to come to our after show, In Our DNA ( https://kinkofa.com/inourdna/ ), hosted by our good friends over at Kinkofa (https://kinkofa.com/ ) every other Wednesday (the week following an episode drop) at 7:30PM EST. Register here, https://lu.ma/INOURDNA ! . Kinkofa is the future of genealogy. Connect to culturally-relevant tools, resources, and support needed to uncover your unique #familyhistory. Join their community here, https://kinkofa.com/community/! . Making a podcast ain’t cheap. And as an independently funded podcast, we depend on our community to sustain us. Please consider donating $5, $10, or $20 to In Those Genes through our PayPal or commit to a monthly donation through our Patreon, if you’re able. . PayPal: https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes . If a monetary donation isn’t in the cards you can support us by rating and writing a review of the podcast, following us on social media, and sharing this podcast with everyone you know! . No matter how you show your support, thank you fam 3 We appreciate you. You can formally join the family by visiting www.inthosegenes.com and signing up to get email updates including our Nucleotide Newsletter. . Follow us on Twitter/Instagram: @inthosegenespod

    Baby Got Black
  4. 09/03/2022 ·  Bonus

    Blackletes Fact & Fiction

    This week we travel to 1989 to a conversation with Dr. Edwards and NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw and we bring in the science we learned last week about what role genetics has in athletic ability to this critical conversation about Black superior athletes. . Blackletes Fact and Fiction dissects the claims made in the NBC News Tonight broadcast, “Black Athletes Fact and Fiction” featuring our guest from last week, Dr. Harry Edwards. We use the scientific method as a basis to critique the claims made then with available genetic technology at the time as well as what is available now. We also hear Dr. Edward’s sociologist expertise then and now critiquing the segment. . You can watch the full broadcast here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdN9DDZqabQ . In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language that might be be difficult for some to hear. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript we affectionately call The Nucleus here, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Htc1qZSTH9g3lF9EydHhZEsdxjs4W90R/view?usp=sharing . As a reminder this season airs every OTHER week. . Want to learn more about the guests on this episode? Check out his work below. Dr.Harry Edwards @@drharryedwards (Twitter) . Want to unpack this episode with other In Those Genes Family and like minded folks? If so, be sure to come to our after show, In Our DNA ( https://kinkofa.com/inourdna/ ), hosted by our good friends over at Kinkofa (https://kinkofa.com/ ) every other Wednesday (the week following an episode drop) at 7:30PM EST. Register here, https://lu.ma/INOURDNA ! . Kinkofa is the future of genealogy. Connect to culturally-relevant tools, resources, and support needed to uncover your unique #familyhistory. Join their community here, https://kinkofa.com/community/ ! . Making a podcast ain’t cheap. And as an independently funded podcast, we depend on our community to sustain us. Please consider donating $5, $10, or $20 to In Those Genes through our PayPal or commit to a monthly donation through our Patreon, if you’re able. . PayPal: https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes . If a monetary donation isn’t in the cards you can support us by -- rating and writing a review of the podcast, following us on social media, and sharing this podcast with everyone you know! . No matter how you show your support, thank you fam 3 We appreciate you. You can formally join the family by visiting www.inthosegenes.com and signing up to get email updates including our Nucleotide Newsletter. . Follow us on Twitter/Instagram: @inthosegenespod

    Blackletes Fact & Fiction
  5. 23/02/2022

    Blackletes

    Serena Williams. Usian Bolt. Michael Jordan. Some of the world’s strongest, fastest, and most decorated athletes are Blackity Black. Sometimes people chalk this up to genetics, claiming that this sort of extraordinary athleticism is unique to Black folks’ ancestry. Is there any truth to that claim? In this episode, we untangle what role genetics has in athletic ability and map out how Black Americans came to be viewed as superior athletes in the first place. . Blackletes explores the genetics behind athleticism with sports culture and biomechanist experts. We understand why there is an overrepresentation of Black athletes during certain periods of time vs others and explore if that difference is cultural or innate ability drive physical ability for competitive sports. To do this, we take a deeper look at the science and culture to develop a historical and present day narrative as a basis for trying to disentangle whether athleticism could be traced to Blackness. Are there unique qualities of phenomenal athletes like Serena Williams, Michael Jordan, or Simone Biles that are not seen in other groups of non-Black athletes that can be explained by genetics? . In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language that might be be difficult for some to hear. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript we affectionately call The Nucleus here, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Htc1qZSTH9g3lF9EydHhZEsdxjs4W90R/view?usp=sharing . As a reminder this season airs every OTHER week. . Want to learn more about the guests on this episode? Check out their work below. Dr.Harry Edwards @@drharryedwards (Twitter) Dr. Erica Bell @BellePhd (Twitter). Learn more about Dr. Bell’s work: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Erica-Bell-8 . Want to unpack this episode with other In Those Genes Family and like minded folks? If so, be sure to come to our after show, In Our DNA ( https://kinkofa.com/inourdna/ ), hosted by our good friends over at Kinkofa (https://kinkofa.com/ ) every other Wednesday (the week following an episode drop) at 7:30PM EST. Register here, https://lu.ma/INOURDNA ! . Kinkofa is the future of genealogy. Connect to culturally-relevant tools, resources, and support needed to uncover your unique #familyhistory. Join their community here, https://kinkofa.com/community/ ! . Making a podcast ain’t cheap. And as an independently funded podcast, we depend on our community to sustain us. Please consider donating $5, $10, or $20 to In Those Genes through our PayPal or commit to a monthly donation through our Patreon, if you’re able. . PayPal: https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes . If a monetary donation isn’t in the cards you can support us by -- rating and writing a review of the podcast, following us on social media, and sharing this podcast with everyone you know! . No matter how you show your support, thank you fam 3 We appreciate you. You can formally join the family by visiting www.inthosegenes.com and signing up to get email updates including our Nucleotide Newsletter. . Follow us on Twitter/Instagram: @inthosegenespod

    Blackletes
  6. 08/02/2022 ·  Bonus

    A Tribute to Uncle Warren

    Oral history is such an integral part of our family history and our collective story as African descendents; without our elders passing this history to us much of our Black History would remain unknown. This Black History Month, we revisit an episode from Season 1 that features one of my newest ancestors, the late “Uncle Warren” and other elders in my hometown of New Orleans as they discuss their views and concerns about commercial genetic testing. . Bonus Episode - “A Tribute to Uncle Warren- Re-airing of “Ion Trust Dem People from Season 1” - In this episode Sam and I travel to my hometown-- New Orleans to hear the perspective of our elders' concerns around privacy within the context of direct to consumer genetic testing companies. We go deep into how to teach our elders what they need to know when taking consumer genetic testing--what to look for and break it down step by step. We address their concerns and even get serenaded by one of our elders, LOL! We will also learn how you can be identified by the forensic scientist using your DNA and of course we have affirmations! . . As a reminder this season airs every OTHER week. . Making a podcast ain’t cheap. This Black History Month, we’re asking you – our community – to donate $10, $25, $50 or whatever you can to help cover our production costs for a single episode of Season 3. Your donation will cover the cost of things like the salaries of our three producers, our fact checker, music composer, audio engineering, social media, marketing and stipends for our college interns. Black History Month Funding Campaign, https://gofund.me/53180694 . You can also support In Those Genes through our PayPal or commit to a monthly donation through our Patreon, if you’re able. . PayPal: https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes . If a monetary donation isn’t in the cards you can support us by rating and writing a review of the podcast, following us on social media, and sharing this podcast with everyone you know! . No matter how you show your support, thank you fam 3 We appreciate you. You can formally join the family by visiting www.inthosegenes.com and signing up to get email updates including our Nucleotide Newsletter. . Follow us on Twitter/Instagram: @inthosegenespod

    A Tribute to Uncle Warren
  7. 25/01/2022 ·  Bonus

    The R&B Experiment

    It isn’t hard to point out the person in the room who is clapping off beat. But how can we use the scientific method to study why some folks are rhythmically coordinated and others not? How does one’s ancestry play into this? In this bonus episode, we head to the In Those Genes lab with neuroscientist AZA Allsop, MD, PhD to map out a hypothetical study using genetics and neurology that could help explain why some of us can catch a beat and others not. . Be sure to listen to the first part of this episode! Episode 4: R&B: Rhythm and Blackness: https://pod.link/1489257965/episode/7fae62b2aad7a9434f42ebd315e127a2 . In Those Genes is an educational podcast that contains explicit language that might be difficult for some to hear. No worries, we got you! You can still get all the facts dropped in our cleaned transcript we affectionately call The Nucleus that will be posted soon. . As a reminder this season airs every OTHER week. . Want to learn more about Dr. AZA Allsop? Check out their work below. Dr. AZA Allsop, @DR_tr3 (Twitter). Dr. Allsop is also a multi-instrumentalist – listen to some of their music here: https://www.azafortheculture.com/about-1 . Kinkofa is the future of genealogy. Connect to culturally-relevant tools, resources, and support needed to uncover your unique #familyhistory. Join their community here, https://kinkofa.com/community/! . Making a podcast ain’t cheap. And as an independently funded podcast, we depend on our community to sustain us. Please consider donating $5, $10, or $20 to In Those Genes through our PayPal or commit to a monthly donation through our Patreon, if you’re able. . PayPal: https://paypal.me/inthosegenes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/inthosegenes . If a monetary donation isn’t in the cards you can support us by rating and writing a review of the podcast, following us on social media, and sharing this podcast with everyone you know! . No matter how you show your support, thank you fam 3 We appreciate you. You can formally join the family by visiting www.inthosegenes.com and signing up to get email updates including our Nucleotide Newsletter. . Follow us on Twitter/Instagram: @inthosegenespod

    The R&B Experiment

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