The Trauma Educator Podcast

Effie Kli

The Trauma Educator Podcast is where nervous system, somatic education, and conversations on trauma meet culture and society.    Through thought-proving interviews monologues and community Q&As, we explore how the nervous system is shaped by trauma and how family dynamics, cultural norms and collective patterns influence our health and relationships. Each episode invites you to connect your individual healing to the bigger picture of community and collective well-being. You’ll find valuable insights, accessible education, and meaningful conversations that challenge old conditioning and open space for reimagining life.   In essence, The Trauma Educator Podcast is about health and well-being, but it also extends far beyond into the cultural, relational, and systemic forces that shape them every day. Join us as we expand the conversation on trauma and healing, and discover how nervous system work can support both personal growth and cultural transformation.  

  1. 16 HR AGO

    Episode 16 | The Truth About Emotional Eating, Trauma and Recovery

    In this episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Luis Mojica, somatic educator and founder of Holistic Life Navigation, whose work sits at the intersection of nutrition, the nervous system, and trauma recovery. Today is the publication of his new book, Food Therapy: Conscious Eating to Navigate Anxiety, Stress, and Trauma.  In this conversation how food can become part of the healing process, not through restriction or control, but through relationship. We talk about why so many people with a history of trauma use food to self-soothe, and what the body is truly needing in those moments. We also go into the role of shame and guilt in our relationship with food, how these patterns form, and how they can begin to shift when we bring in more compassion and somatic awareness. Luis offers a perspective that removes moral judgment from eating and instead looks at the underlying physiology and emotional needs. We explore the nervous system mechanics behind cravings, and why abrupt, restrictive changes are rarely sustainable for people who have relied on these strategies for a long time. Instead, we look at what a more realistic and supportive approach can be, one that works with the body rather than against it. If you’ve ever struggled with your relationship to food, or felt confused by what your body is asking for, this episode will give you a very different way of understanding it. Food Therapy is available now. You can buy it here https://www.holisticlifenavigation.com/the-book     Follow me on Instagram www.instagram.com/the.trauma.educator Visit my website www.effiekli.com   Get in touch with us www.effiekli.com/contact   And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-informed conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    50 min
  2. 15 APR

    Episode 15 | Depression, Trauma, and the Nervous System: The Missing Piece in Healing

    Depression is often treated as something that is wrong with us.  But what if that framing is part of what keeps us stuck in depression? In this episode, I explore depression through a trauma-informed and nervous system lens and why understanding it purely through symptoms or serotonin imbalance narratives limits the way we approach healing.  Rather than asking “what’s wrong with you and you are depressed?”, this episode invites a different question: What happened to you, and how did your nervous system adapt to survive? I share why this topic is deeply personal to me, and how that experience shaped the way I understand depression. I talk about: The difference between a pathologizing model and a trauma-informed approach to depression Why depression is often a state of freeze and/or shutdown that are self-protective strategies after trauma The unprocessed emotions that live beneath depression Why we first need to embody depression to heal from it, and what this means What working with depression somatically and emotionally looks like The benefits of exploring depression through archetypes A trauma-informed approach to depression is the foundation of my 12-week program, The Chrysalis. The Chrysalis is not about fixing depression or pushing you out of it It’s about understanding it, working with it slowly, and gradually building the capacity your nervous system needs to move through it and welcome aliveness back into your body and life. Inside the program, we explore depression through somatic, emotional, and deeper soul, archetypal work, and the structure is intentional. Across 12 weeks, we move through three cycles of: immersive mini-retreats integration calls and Q&A sessions This allows the work to unfold with pacing, depth, and actual integration, not just insight. If you’ve been trying to “fix” your depression and it hasn’t worked, this episode (and this work) will resonate.  The Chrysalis begins on April 23 and runs only once a year. You can find all the details and join via the link here https://courses.effiekli.com/the-chrysalis ______ Follow me on Instagram www.instagram.com/the.trauma.educator Visit my website www.effiekli.com   Get in touch with us www.effiekli.com/contact And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-informed conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    46 min
  3. 13 APR

    Episode 14 | Dysfunctional systems, the loneliness of being the family scapegoat and building self-trust after trauma with Dr. Deniz Ahmadinia

    In this episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Deniz Ahmadinia, a clinical psychologist whose work bridges trauma, somatic and parts work, and intuitive energy healing. Drawing from both her professional expertise and personal healing journey, Deniz brings a perspective that moves beyond intellectual understanding and into the lived, embodied process of reconnecting with the self. ·      We speak about what happens when memories of abuse surface later in life ·      Why self-doubt is a necessary survival strategy that once protected us  ·      The complexity of rebuilding self-trust, not as a guarantee that we’ll always get it “right”, but as a capacity to stay with ourselves regardless of the outcome ·      The reality of dysfunctional family systems, including the experience of being the scapegoat, and the loneliness that comes with that role ·      The confusion of being raised by a parent whose public image did not match what happened at home ·      The role of anger as a way of taking our life-force energy back and restoring a sense of agency after trauma ·      And what it takes to stop abandoning ourselves, especially when that pattern was shaped in environments where disconnection was necessary for belonging   For more information on Dr. Deniz’s, visit here www.drdeniz.com   Join The Chrysalis, my signature 12-week program on depression https://courses.effiekli.com/the-chrysalis   Follow me on Instagram www.instagram.com/the.trauma.educator Visit my website www.effiekli.com   Get in touch with us www.effiekli.com/contact   And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-informed conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    50 min
  4. 30 MAR

    Episode 13 | Accessing our power after complex trauma through instinct, the symbolic life and shadow work with Hannah Fraser Moore

    In this episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Hannah Fraser Moore, analytical psychologist and depth psychotherapist, whose work bridges trauma, instinct, and the symbolic life. Grounded in Jungian psychology and psychoanalytic thought, Hannah explores how early relational experiences shape the nervous system, the body, and our capacity to live with agency and meaning. She is a member of the British Psychoanalytic Council (BPC) and the International Association for Analytical Psychology (IAAP), and lives in the UK with her family.  Together, we explore how myths, stories, and the symbolic life can support people with complex trauma in making sense of their inner world and reconnecting with parts of themselves that have been cut off.  We discuss how instinct can become suppressed through early developmental trauma, and how childhood environments can shape our relationship to desire, teaching us to move away from what we want to avoid humiliation.  We also talk about the fear that something bad is about to happen and how to overcome it, about the difference between anxiety and intuition, what it means to make the “right” decision, and how to deal with regret over moments we believe we've made the wrong choice.   For more information on Hannah’s work, visit here www.hannahfrasermoore.com  Join The Chrysalis, my signature 12-week program on depression https://courses.effiekli.com/the-chrysalis  Follow me on Instagram www.instagram.com/the.trauma.educator Visit my website www.effiekli.com   Get in touch with us www.effiekli.com/contact  And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-educated conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    54 min
  5. 17 MAR

    Episode 11 | Conflict in love, repair & why we marry our “unfinished business” with Jordan Dann

    In this interview episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Jordan Dann, psychoanalyst, traumatologist, and educator whose work bridges depth psychology, attachment theory, and nervous system science. Jordan integrates Somatic Experiencing, Gestalt, and psychoanalytic perspectives to help individuals and couples transform unconscious relational patterns into conscious, embodied choice. Her work is grounded in the belief that experience—especially relational and somatic experience—is what reorganizes the self, a principle that also informs her course Relationship Transformation: The Art of Rupture and Repair. She is the author of Somatic Therapy for Healing Trauma and co-editor of Experiential Therapies for Treating Trauma, and she teaches clinicians internationally while serving on faculty at Gestalt Associates for Psychotherapy.   Together we explore one of the most fascinating ideas in relational psychology: why we often end up partnering with our “unfinished business.” Jordan explains how early attachment experiences shape our love templates, why relationships oscillate between too much closeness and too much distance, and how rupture and repair can become the pathway to secure attachment.   We also discuss the role of somatics in relational repair, why our nervous systems sometimes perceive our partners as threats, and how shifting the unconscious role we play in our relationship has the potential to trigger change in the relationship itself. The conversation expands into cultural influences on intimacy, erotic templates, a thoughtful discussion on the growing conversation around male loneliness in modern society, and how women can stop acting out the role of the rescuer in relationships with men who are not ready for emotionally mature connection.   Workshop invitation: If you experience depression, I’m running an online workshop on March 18 on Freeze, Shutdown and Depression. Together we’ll explore how to use somatics, emotional energy, and soul work as pathways back to vitality. To find out more and to register, visit here https://courses.effiekli.com/freeze-shutdown-and-depression   And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-educated conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    55 min
  6. 10 MAR

    Episode 10 | Religious Trauma and Purity Cultures: How to recognize the signs and heal from a high control system with Dr. Laura Anderson

    In this episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Laura Anderson, therapist, trauma recovery coach, educator, and founder of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery. Laura specializes in complex trauma with a focus on domestic violence, sexualized violence, and religious trauma. She is also the author of the book When Religion Hurts You: Healing From Religious Trauma and the Impact of High Control Religion and co-founder of the Religious Trauma Institute. We explore what religious trauma is, how high-control religious systems shape our identity, and the role of authority, power, and control in these environments. We discuss the confusion we often feel in religious communities, if certain individuals and groups may be more vulnerable to religious trauma, and how purity cultures often contribute to feelings of shame and guilt for experiencing pleasure.  We also talk about the long process of reclaiming autonomy after being involved in a high control religion, and learning how to belong in relationships and communities without sacrificing our agency or sense of self. Workshop invitation: If you experience depression, I’m running an online workshop on March 18 on Freeze, Shutdown and Depression. Together we’ll explore how to use somatics, emotional energy, and soul work as pathways back to vitality. To find out more and to register, visit here https://courses.effiekli.com/freeze-shutdown-and-depression And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-educated conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    52 min
  7. 3 MAR

    Episode 9 | Anxiety as a map out of feeling stuck: how to feel your feelings & change your life with Britt Frank

    In this episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Britt Frank, licensed neuropsychotherapist, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, keynote speaker, and author of The Science of Stuck and Align Your Mind. Britt’s work has been featured in NPR, The New York Times, New York Magazine, and Forbes, and she brings a refreshingly grounded, science-based perspective to what it really means to feel stuck.  Many people who have experienced trauma — especially complex trauma — know the feeling of being stuck in patterns, relationships, motivation, or identity. Britt challenges the idea that being stuck is a personal failure. Instead, she reframes stuckness as information and as something intelligent and workable rather than shameful.  We explore why anxiety can actually be a map out of stuckness, why there is no such thing as a lazy or unmotivated person, and how parts of ourselves we dislike or judge may be the very parts we need for healing. We also discuss parts work in romantic relationships, how to navigate conflict without self-abandonment, and why “feeling your feelings” doesn’t always create change on its own. This conversation bridges neuroscience, parts work, and practical ideas, offering a compassionate and actionable way to move forward in moments you feel powerless and stuck. If you want to understand where you currently are in your nervous system healing after complex trauma and what your next steps can be, take my Nervous System Healing Quiz → https://www.effiekli.com/quiz  For science-backed tools to help you process emotions on a deep body level, watch my free workshop The Alchemy of Emotional Processing After Trauma → https://www.effiekli.com/optin And if you enjoyed this episode, please don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-educated conversations and bring them to more people around the world who need them.

    54 min
  8. 17 FEB

    Episode 8 | Movement and Dance as Medicine: Healing Trauma Through the Language of the Body with Erica Hornthal

    In this interview episode of The Trauma Educator Podcast, I’m joined by Erica Hornthal, a licensed clinical professional counselor, board-certified dance/movement therapist, and the founder of Chicago Dance Therapy. Known as “The Therapist Who Moves You,” Erica has spent decades helping people understand movement not just as expression, but as a direct pathway to healing, regulation, and change.   Together, we explore what it really means to become body aware, how trauma shapes the way we move, and why changing movement patterns can shift how we think, feel, and relate. We talk about movement as a tool for processing emotions, working with rumination and repetitive thought loops, and developing clearer boundaries and limits through the body.   This conversation also touches on motivation, self-care in busy lives, body image, and how learning to move in a way that is right for you can unlock potential that cognitive insight alone often cannot access.   If you want to understand where you currently are in your nervous system healing after complex trauma and what your next steps can be, take my Nervous System Healing Quiz → https://www.effiekli.com/quiz   For science-backed tools to help you process emotions on a deep body level, watch my free workshop The Alchemy of Emotional Processing After Trauma → https://www.effiekli.com/optin   And if this episode resonates, don’t forget to follow, subscribe, rate, and share to help expand these trauma-educated conversations and bring nervous system awareness to more people around the world.

    56 min

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The Trauma Educator Podcast is where nervous system, somatic education, and conversations on trauma meet culture and society.    Through thought-proving interviews monologues and community Q&As, we explore how the nervous system is shaped by trauma and how family dynamics, cultural norms and collective patterns influence our health and relationships. Each episode invites you to connect your individual healing to the bigger picture of community and collective well-being. You’ll find valuable insights, accessible education, and meaningful conversations that challenge old conditioning and open space for reimagining life.   In essence, The Trauma Educator Podcast is about health and well-being, but it also extends far beyond into the cultural, relational, and systemic forces that shape them every day. Join us as we expand the conversation on trauma and healing, and discover how nervous system work can support both personal growth and cultural transformation.  

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