The Open Nesters

The Open Nesters

Re-Imagining the Empty Nest

  1. THE PATH BACK TO PLEASURE AND TRUST

    6 DAYS AGO

    THE PATH BACK TO PLEASURE AND TRUST

    THE PATH BACK TO PLEASURE AND TRUST with Maria Merloni THE PATH [TESSA] As we navigate the season of “Love Month” here at the Open Nesters, I find myself reflecting deeply on what it means to truly inhabit our bodies and our relationships as we age. I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with Maria Merloni, a therapist and sex and relationship coach who is redefining what it looks like to turn sixty with vitality, grace, and an open heart. Maria’s journey is a powerful reminder that our “second act” in love can often be more profound and fulfilling than our first, provided we are willing to do the cellular work required to heal and grow. BACK TO PLEASURE AND TRUST One of the most striking parts of our conversation was Maria’s transparency about her own path to finding a healthy partnership. After a first marriage and a cycle of dating men with unhealed addictions, she realized she wasn’t “bad at picking men”—she was actually picking the exact right people to point her toward her own unhealed childhood trauma. By engaging in deep, somatic therapy, she broke that cycle and eventually met her husband, Paul, at a Tantra gathering. Her story beautifully illustrates that when we heal our internal landscape, the external world—and the partners we attract—changes to meet us. Maria and Paul’s relationship is a masterclass in intentionality. They don’t just “exist” together; they celebrate what they call a “Relationship Party” every week. While many couples only discuss the logistics of finances or children, Maria and Paul use this time to check in on their spiritual development, their health goals, and how they are feeling within the relationship itself. It turns the implicit into the explicit, ensuring that no resentment builds and that both partners feel seen and cherished. It’s a practice I believe every Open Nestor could benefit from as we redefine our lives after the kids have flown the nest. Beyond the home, Maria and Paul have embraced the freedom of the Open Nest by becoming “home exchangers,” traveling the world from Bali to Hawaii while working virtually. This sense of adventure isn’t just about the stamps in a passport; it’s about a lifestyle of “life wide open.” They’ve turned their home into a sanctuary for the community, hosting non-sexual “cuddle parties” to address the touch-deprivation so common in our modern, tech-heavy world. This commitment to service and connection is a beautiful example of how we can use our wisdom years to foster community and healing for others. We also dove into the vital topic of embodiment and “Yoni Massage,” a practice Maria teaches to help women reconnect with their bodies. For many of us, aging can bring physical changes—menopause, dryness, or a sense of disconnection—that make us feel less “sensual.” Maria reclaims this not just as a sexual act, but as a spiritual and healing practice. She explained how “stuck energy” from past traumas can live in our tissues, and how gentle, intentional massage can release that energy, balance hormones naturally, and open up new pathways for pleasure that many women never even knew were possible. It was refreshing to hear Maria debunk the “malarkey” of the patriarchy regarding women’s sexual potential. She reminded me that our power is often tied to our sexual functioning and our ability to feel pleasure, yet we have been conditioned to feel shame or believe we have limitations. Whether it’s exploring the lost art of the “sacred spot” or simply learning to love our bodies as they are today, the journey toward sexual empowerment doesn’t have an expiration date. At 64, I find myself constantly learning new ways to appreciate my own “juiciness” and presence, and Maria’s work is a guiding light for that exploration. We closed our talk with a beautiful sentiment from her husband, Paul: the intention to “make every moment sacred.” Despite the very real hardships life has thrown their way—including the loss of a child and family health struggles—they choose to remain present. Using techniques from Tantra, they focus on the “now,” whether that’s the color of the morning sky or the sensation of breath. As Open Nesters, we have the choice to stay stuck in the grief of the “empty” nest or to awaken to the divinity in every moment. I am choosing the latter, and I hope Maria’s wisdom inspires you to do the same. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

  2. 18 FEB

    WILD MONOGAMY

    WILD MONOGAMY! Live! your life… with MALI and JOE WILD MONOGAMY To understand the concept of “Wild Monogamy,” one must first look at the traditional framework of the relationship. Monogamy is most commonly defined as a form of relationship where an individual has only one partner at a time, often characterized by emotional and sexual exclusivity. While this is the bedrock for many couples, the routine of long-term partnership can sometimes lead to a “tame” or predictable dynamic. This is exactly where guests Mali and Joe, featured on The Open Nesters podcast, suggest we start shaking things up to rediscover the electricity of the early days. We explore the idea that staying committed to one person doesn’t have to mean sacrificing passion or adventure. Mali and Joe, authors of The Soulmate Experience, share their journey of nearly two decades, proving that erotic connection can actually intensify over time. Their philosophy centers on the idea that monogamy isn’t a restrictive cage, but rather a safe container within which partners can be as “wild” and expressive as they choose to be. One of the most moving stories shared in the episode involves the struggle with aging bodies—a common hurdle for “open nesters” over 60. Mali describes the vulnerability of dealing with a sagging or changing physique, only for her partner Joe to respond by photographing her from every angle. By seeing her body through his eyes—as a work of art, wet and dry, inside and out—she was able to shed her insecurities. This “wild” act of radical acceptance is a core pillar of their message: intimacy thrives when we stop hiding and start showing up fully. The episode explains that “Wild Monogamy” is about cultivating erotic intimacy to keep desire alive without necessarily looking outside the relationship. It’s the “monogamous” version of a play party—where you might go to a spicy event but choose to only play with your partner. By bringing that level of intentionality, fantasy, and novelty back into the bedroom, couples can bypass the boredom that often plagues long-term unions. Mali and Joe emphasize that this doesn’t happen by accident. It requires a continuous conversation about love, sex, and connection. They’ve dedicated their lives to coaching couples on how to move past the jealousy, inhibition, and shame that often tangle up our sexuality. For them, “wildness” is a practice of being present and adventurous within the safety of your primary bond, ensuring that the “magical feeling” of dating never truly ends. For those in the “Act III” of their lives—the empty nesters—this message is particularly resonant. Tessa and Amir highlight that this stage of life is an opportunity for a “new nesting” experience. It’s a time to ask what you need to open up in your life, your body, and your spirit. Whether it’s through body movement, sensory exploration, or deepening your erotic connection, the goal is to live with an open heart and a sense of play. Ultimately, “Wild Monogamy” serves as a reminder that your primary relationship can be the greatest adventure of your life. By choosing to be “wild” with one another, couples can transform a decades-old partnership into a vibrant, ever-evolving romance. If you’re looking to reignite that spark and move beyond the “empty” in empty nesting, this episode offers a roadmap for keeping the fire burning bright through every season of life. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    52 min
  3. Radical Honesty

    12 FEB

    Radical Honesty

    Radical Honesty and the Many Kinds of Love with Jesse Poppick Radical Honesty (and the Many Kinds of Love) In this episode of The Open Nesters, we dive into the transformative journey of Jesse Poppick, a guest who brings a wealth of insights about love, relationships, and navigating life as an open nester. With his unique experiences, Jesse shares how his perspective on relationships has evolved, particularly through his transitions after two divorces and his experience as a father to three daughters. We explore concepts such as radical honesty and non-monogamy as he reflects on how these themes have informed his life choices and relationship dynamics. As our conversation unfolds, Jesse discusses his journey to embracing the open nester lifestyle, which he describes as facing new adventures rather than feeling the void of an empty nest. We emphasize that this stage of life allows for deeper exploration of personal identity, relationships, and experiences. His candid recount of a conversation with his youngest daughter reveals the profound shifts that have occurred as their family structure changes. What began as a necessary adjustment for their circumstances evolved into a broader understanding of freedom, support, and connection, prompting Jesse to reassess his role as a father and an individual. We dive deeper into Jesse’s relational intelligence, which has transformed through his exploration of non-monogamy and the concept of polyamory. He details his experiences in these realms, emphasizing that non-monogamous relationships aren’t just about sexual freedom but also about the capacity to love and connect with multiple partners in diverse ways. Jesse articulates a distinction between non-monogamy, which often entails sexual relationships, and polyamory, which focuses on loving connections without a sexual component. This insight prompts a broader discussion about the rich, fluid nature of love and the importance of understanding our desires and boundaries within these structures. Throughout the episode, we explore Jesse’s six principles of sexual health and how these guidelines can foster better communication and ultimately healthier relationships. Consent, non-exploitation, honesty, shared values, protection, and pleasure serve as essential pillars for navigating the complexities of intimacy. Jesse introduces the RBDSM-T framework, urging listeners to bring explicit conversations to dating and relationships. He highlights that understanding the meanings behind our interactions, setting clear boundaries, and addressing past traumas are crucial for nurturing connections—even in long-term relationships. As the discussion progresses, Jesse shares poignant reflections about his estranged relationships with his older daughters and how the principles of radical honesty and patience have played a pivotal role in rebuilding those connections. He emphasizes the importance of creating space for his children to engage with him on their terms, acknowledging the challenges and emotional weight involved in such situations. Listeners seeking guidance or inspiration are encouraged to connect with Jesse through his website, where he offers workshops and resources aimed at enhancing sexual health and communication in relationships. He also shares his upcoming appearances at festivals, demonstrating his commitment to spreading awareness about the complexities of modern relationships, the importance of emotional intelligence, and fostering a deeper understanding of love. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    47 min
  4. 5 FEB

    Love, Flow and Connection with Laura Silverstein

    Finding Flow and Connection with Laura Silverstein Finding Flow with Laura Silverstein Welcome back, fellow Open Nesters! In honor of Love Month, we recently had the absolute pleasure of hosting Laura Silverstein, author of Love is an Action Verb, for a deeply resonant encore discussion about finding more flow and connection in our relationships. As we navigate this “open nest” phase—a term we prefer over “empty nest” to reflect hearts and lives open to endless possibilities—having an expert like Laura, who is both a Gottman-trained therapist and a fellow traveler in this mid-life transition, felt like a true gift. At 53, Laura is right there with us, balancing a twenty-year marriage and the bittersweet transition of her own children heading off to college One of the most profound takeaways from our conversation was Laura’s perspective on secure attachment and how we model it for our children, even as they become adults. She described secure attachment as the “net underneath them,” providing a sanctuary of comfort and trust so they know they are never alone in the world. For those of us struggling with the quiet of the house, Laura offered a beautiful reminder: we must provide reassurance of unconditional love, regardless of our children’s successes or failures. It is about “being with the moment” and accepting our role as a steady presence in their lives, even as they build their own worlds. We also dove deep into the mechanics of long-term partnership, particularly the Gottman concept of “bids for attention”. Laura calls these “micro-bursts of connection”—tiny actions like a winky-face text or a hug that lasts longer than twenty seconds to release oxytocin. These small gestures are the currency of love, and they don’t take much time, yet they set a precedent of warmth in a relationship. After the kids leave, it is vital to redirect that energy we once gave to our children back toward each other, actively cherishing the love we have built. The part of the interview that truly stayed with me—and that my co-host Amir and I are still digesting—is the idea that most conflict stems from a dream that is not being actualized. Laura explained that ongoing, distressing conflicts are often about a deep purpose or desire that is being suppressed. She shared a powerful “Dream Catcher” exercise where one partner acts as the dreamer and the other listens with deep curiosity, asking questions about the “why” and the “excitement” behind the dream rather than focusing on the logistics or the “how”. This shift from “stop doing this” to “this is why I need this for my soul” changes the entire landscape of compromise. We also touched on the importance of transparency and honesty regarding our individual core needs versus our areas of flexibility. Laura noted that when we give up a core need, we are essentially giving up our “bones and body,” moving out of integrity with ourselves. However, when we understand our partner’s ultimate dreams, we find the motivation to be flexible in other areas—like my recent month-long solo trip to the ocean, a gift of “compersion” from my husband that brought renewed love and patience back into our primary partnership. As we wrapped up, Laura reminded us that the heart is a muscle that requires proactive exercise. Whether it is practicing “extreme gratitude” or engaging in “skydiving listening,” the goal is to expand our capacity for love through consistent, intentional action. I encourage you to check out Laura’s website, LauraSilverstein.com, or follow her “Laura’s Love Advice” on social media for more pragmatic tips on comforting those in pain and building inclusive, communicative relationships. In the interview, Laura Silverstein describes a Gottman Institute exercise where one partner acts as the “dreamer” and the other as the “dream catcher”. The goal of the dream catcher is to use deep, probing curiosity to understand the meaning behind a partner’s desires rather than focusing on the logistics of how to achieve them. The Role of the Dream Catcher The dream catcher’s job is to listen intently and ask open-ended, non-leading questions. They must avoid “yes or no” questions or practical concerns, such as “How are we going to afford this?” Core Dream Catcher Questions Laura highlighted several specific questions a partner can ask to uncover the “dream within a conflict” What is frightening for you about this? What is exciting for you about this? Why is this so important to you? What would it look like if this dream were actually actualized? How would you feel if this dream came true? What would you be doing in this best-case scenario? The Purpose of the Questions By asking these questions, the listener helps their partner expand on their vision. This allows the couple to identify core needs—things that are essential to a person’s integrity or “soul”—and separate them from areas of flexibility, where compromise is possible once the underlying dream is understood. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    43 min
  5. Radical Compassion (Season 6 | Episode 223)

    29 JAN

    Radical Compassion (Season 6 | Episode 223)

    Radical Compassion (Season 6 | Episode 223) with Ukumbwa Sauti Trading “Empty” for “Open”: The Courage to Speak Up Welcome back to the Open Nesters podcast, where we are flipping the script on aging and trading an “empty” nest for a life wide open. This month, we have been diving deep into the theme of courage, and I can’t think of a more vital conversation than the one I recently had with Ukumbwa Sauti. Ukumbwa is a consultant, educator, and a leader in men’s work who is helping us look at the “third act” of our lives through a lens of awareness and radical compassion. The “genesis moment” for Ukumbwa’s lifelong mission happened decades ago when he realized that nearly every woman he knew had experienced some form of sexual assault or harassment. This shocking realization led him to dedicate his life to education and media literacy, focusing on how we define “normal” behavior. In our interview, he shared a powerful story from his days teaching higher education where a simple question about consent was met with a long, chilling silence. It’s a stark reminder that we are still pushing a boulder uphill when it comes to understanding boundaries. One of the most profound concepts Ukumbwa introduced is “radical compassion”—the ability to respect the experiences of people we don’t even know. For men in the open nesting stage, this means moving beyond the excuse of “I didn’t know”. It’s about being willing to hold up a mirror to our own behaviors and the systems of patriarchy that have affected us all. As Ukumbwa noted, many women our age have reached a breaking point because their partners refused to grow and evolve alongside them. This lack of growth is a major contributor to the rising rates of “grey divorce”. It is a staggering reality that 40% of divorces now occur among those over 50, with women initiating two-thirds of these splits. Women are often simply “fed up” with partners who remain stagnant or dismissive of their need for equality and respect. Embracing open nesting means being brave enough to address these intimacy gaps and do the internal, spiritual, and emotional work required to sustain a healthy partnership. For the men listening, Ukumbwa’s message is clear: learn to listen. Whether it’s through joining a men’s group, reading works by authors like bell hooks, or simply engaging in open, heart-centered conversations with friends, the tools for growth are available. He shared a beautiful story of his own men’s group providing him with caretaking and “manicures in bed” during a hospital stay, proving that masculinity can include tenderness and mutual support. As we move into February and focus on love and relationships, I challenge you to consider your own legacy. What kind of role model are you for your adult children and grandchildren? True courage is not just about big adventures; it’s about the willingness to be conscious, to admit when we are wrong, and to speak up for equality. Let’s keep opening doors to better relationships and endless possibilities Ukumbwa Sauti Educator, Presenter, Facilitator – Cultural Media Studies; Counselor,initiated Dagara Elder Greetings! I’ve been involved in a dynamic and deepening process born out of many aspects of my professional, creative and spiritual work over many years. My company, moja mediaworks llc, has been developing the World Ancestor Concert, a 3-day televised healing concert celebrating the world’s Ancestors and traditions with a rich mix of conscious and progressive music, traditional music, activists, organizations and more. We are currently looking for sponsors and strategic partnerships to stage our main annual concert events and ongoing smaller, localized Village Concerts. We will also be developing workshops and events for colleges and their surrounding communities. Obrigada! Merci! Jerejef! Danke! Gracias! Asante! Thank you! About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    39 min
  6. Embracing the “Open” in Open Nesting (S6 | E222)

    22 JAN

    Embracing the “Open” in Open Nesting (S6 | E222)

    Embracing the “Open” in Open Nesting (Season 6 | Episode 222) with Joy Rose (Season 6 | Episode 222) This week on the Open Nesters podcast, my co-host Amir and I had the absolute pleasure of revisiting a truly boundary-breaking conversation with the incredible Joy Rose. As an artist, activist, and the visionary founder of the Museum of Motherhood, Joy is a master at helping us deconstruct the heavy labels we carry and reclaim the narrative of our own lives. If you are currently navigating your own “Act Three,” this discussion is essential listening for finding your vitality and flipping the script on aging. We dove deep into the complex world of motherhood —to explore how this role often consumes our identity for decades. Joy shares the raw, honest truth about the “redundancy” many of us feel when our children grow older. It can be an almost impossible shift to move from the physical and emotional all-consumption of active parenting to a life where that role is no longer necessary in the same way. Joy’s personal journey is a masterclass in finding the “self” at the center of the roles projected onto us. As her own four children have grown into their late twenties and thirties, she has had to learn the difficult art of adjustment, using tools like cultivating her own passions and finding serenity through spiritual programs like Al-Anon. One of the most striking parts of our talk was Joy’s take on modern relationships and her rejection of traditional marriage. She spoke beautifully about seeking “great love”—the kind of love that pushes you out of your comfort zone and requires you to show up with integrity and consciousness. It was so illuminating to hear how she and her partner, despite being on opposite ends of the political spectrum, find deep connection through simple kindness and shared values. For those of you looking to explore these themes further, Joy is continuing her work by launching online classes through the Museum of Motherhood website. She encourages everyone, especially “women of a certain age,” to be brave, be expansive, and stop repeating patterns that no longer serve them. Whether it’s through art, study, or simply trying to live on your own, there are so many ways to “show up” for yourself in this new stage of life. We are so grateful to Joy for her wisdom and for helping us “unlabel” the judgments we often place on ourselves and others. As we move forward, I hope you’ll join us in witnessing the growth of our families and ourselves with open hearts and fewer expectations. About Martha JOY Rose Martha JOY Rose, Founder, Executive Director, BFA, MALS with a Master’s in Mother Studies. She is an award-winning artist and activist. Her pursuits have included academia, large-scale community gatherings, and she is the former lead singer of the band Housewives on Prozac. Joy is the NOW-NYC recipient of the Susan B. Anthony Award, her Mamapalooza Festival Series has been recognized as “Best in Girl-Power Events” and her music has appeared on the Billboard Top 100 Dance Charts, MTV and Good Morning America. She founded the Museum of Motherhood in 2003. In 2019, she brought MoM to St. Petersburg. Joy received her Masters in Mother Studies at CUNY, The Graduate Center in New York City and then taught for five years at Manhattan College. Her area of expertise includes introduction to the concept of Mother Studies. From pregnancy to ‘labor’ the requirements of women, physically, emotionally and spiritually are challenged and stretched, and therefore so are men’s. She examines changing perceptions of mothers through herstory. Her focus is largely centered in North America. Joy has contributed to numerous scholarly collections including The Encyclopedia of Motherhood, the Music of Motherhood (2018), and The Routledge Companion to Motherhood (2020) to name a few. She is an artist recipient of a grant from St Pete Arts Alliance & in 2023, she was certified with the Adult Mental Health First Aid, USA. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    37 min
  7. Aging | A Practice of Possibility (S6 | E221)

    15 JAN

    Aging | A Practice of Possibility (S6 | E221)

    Aging | A Practice of Possibility (Season 6 | Episode 221) with Laura and Martha (Season 6 | Episode 221) [TESSA] In our latest episode of the Open Nesters Podcast, I had the profound pleasure of sitting down with a truly inspiring mother-daughter team, Martha and Laura. At 85 and 58 respectively, they joined me to flip the script on what it means to grow older. Instead of viewing aging through a lens of desperation or limitation, they shared how they have cultivated “possibility” as a daily practice rather than a distant fantasy. This conversation reminded me that being an “Open Nester” isn’t just about life after the kids leave; it’s about keeping our hearts and minds wide open to new adventures, regardless of the number on the calendar. One of the most striking takeaways from Martha was her “pod” concept for social wellness. She maintains distinct groups—or pods—for her various interests, ranging from watercolor painting and Torah study to tennis and book clubs. These aren’t just hobbies; they are vital lifelines that prevent the isolation so often associated with aging. Martha’s vibrancy at 85 is a testament to the fact that we must continuously invest in our social circles. As my co-host Amir noted, these relationships are essential to our survival and longevity, yet they require a conscious commitment to cultivate as our lives evolve. We also explored the concept of “resilient aging,” which requires an honest look at our changing physical rhythms. Martha and her husband, Bert, who is nearly 90, haven’t stopped doing what they love, like fishing; they have simply adapted. They’ve found guides who understand their “frailties” and allow them to start later or end earlier. This radical honesty—acknowledging that “getting old ain’t for sissies”—allows them to remain active participants in their own lives. By viewing the body not as an enemy but as a partner that requires different care, they model a graceful way to let go of old habits while welcoming new experiences. The conversation took a deeply courageous turn as we discussed the importance of transparency regarding death and dying. Laura and Martha speak comfortably about these “inevitable possibilities,” ensuring that family values—rather than fear—drive their future decisions. Laura shared her commitment to ensuring that her relationship with her brother remains “healthy and whole” after their parents are gone, which requires having these tough conversations now. This level of integrity and proactive communication is what truly defines a legacy. It’s about making the path smoother for those we love by honoring our values above our own immediate comfort. As we wrapped up, I was left reflecting on how much we can learn when we witness aging with compassion rather than judgment. Whether it is Martha learning from Laura’s modern communication style or Laura gaining a “glimpse” into her own future through her mother’s journey, the intergenerational bond is a powerful tool for growth. Aging is a process, not a destination, and it is happening every single day. I invite you to join our community on Instagram or visit our website to share how you are moving into your open nest with curiosity and courage. Until next time, remember to keep your life wide open to endless possibility. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

    53 min
  8. THE RADIO VAGABOND PALLE BO

    7 JAN

    THE RADIO VAGABOND PALLE BO

    THE RADIO VAGABOND (Season 6 | Episode 220) Trading Empty for Open with Palle Bo (Season 6 | Episode 220) [TESSA] Are you ready to flip the script on aging and discover a life wide open? On this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast Amir and I welcome back a true legend of the open road, Palle Bo. Palle is the definition of an “Open Nester”—someone who decided that once the kids flew the coop, it was time to open the door to endless possibilities. Known as the “Radio Vagabond,” Palle traded his secure life in Denmark for a global adventure that has taken him to over 100 countries. Whether you are dreaming of selling it all or just taking a longer vacation, his story is bound to inspire your inner nomad. You might assume that traveling the world requires a massive bank account, but Palle busts that myth right away. Back in 2016, after his youngest child moved out, he sold his house, car, and furniture to live out of a suitcase. Surprisingly, he spends about half of what he used to spend living a “normal” life in Denmark. He isn’t retired; he’s a digital nomad who runs a production company from his laptop, proving that you really can work from anywhere—whether that’s a cafe in Colombia or a road trip through Saudi Arabia. However, Palle is quick to point out that this lifestyle requires a bit of mindfulness to truly enjoy it. He talks candidly about “travel fatigue” and the importance of slowing down to “get the hunger back”. If he finds himself staring at a beautiful waterfall and not feeling the magic, he knows it’s time to check into a hostel and do absolutely nothing for a while. As Tessa notes, meaningful travel isn’t about rushing through a checklist; it’s about staying long enough that the local coffee shop guy knows your name. One of the biggest fears Open Nesters face is losing touch with their children, but Palle’s experience has been the exact opposite. He reveals that he actually speaks to his kids more now than he did when they were all living under the same roof. They think it’s pretty cool to have a dad out exploring the world, and they even plan epic meet-ups, like an upcoming road trip across the UK. It turns out that distance doesn’t have to mean disconnection; in fact, it can spark a whole new kind of adult relationship. Before you rush to pack your bags, Palle offers some honest advice: this life isn’t for everyone. If you love your own bed and the convenience of next-day Amazon deliveries, you might prefer a home base. But if you are curious, he suggests testing the waters by renting out your place for six months before burning any bridges. To hear more about his incredible journey—from Maasai villages to digital nomad conferences—be sure to check out Palle Bo’s own show, The Radio Vagabond Podcast. Safe travels! About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure  Freedom of Expression  Exploration and Fun  Body Movement  New circles of friends  Deep love relationships

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