Deep Work Out Loud

Julie Harris Oliver
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Welcome to Deep Work: Out Loud, The thinking that fuels our life, our work, and our leadership. I'm Julie Harris Oliver. This is the podcast where I sit with another professional coach and we do some work around a single concept, piece of inspiration, a topic we've seen come up in coaching. If we're very lucky, while talking about it, we might demonstrate what coaching might look and feel like. But we'll see how this goes. It's all an experiment. With any luck, you will leave with something you can apply and use in your work or your life or both.

  1. 26 May

    Dr. Matt Kodsi on "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves" | Deep Work Out Loud

    Dr. Matt Kodsi on "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves,"   Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes encore guest Dr. Matt Kodsi to discuss his book, "A Story Tale: ABCs of the Stories We Tell Ourselves," and his journey into writing. Kodsi explains how people fill gaps in knowledge by creating stories—often with a negative bias—and shares examples.  He describes the book's short, parable-style format (about 72 pages; 1 hour on Audible), its framing as a Zoom conversation between a corporate executive father and journalism-major daughter, and its ABC framework for examining stories and their impacts. Kodsi outlines a planned five-book series on presence, life strategies, organizational culture, and identity, notes the book's addition to the University of Georgia MHA curriculum, and shares where to buy it on Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and Audible.   00:00 Welcome and Format 00:31 Encore Guest Matt 01:22 Why Write a Book 02:22 Stories We Tell Ourselves 03:55 Real World Examples 07:11 Stories About Ourselves 08:13 Building the Book Plot 12:31 Series of Five Books 15:55 Catching Your Own Stories 19:38 Who Its For 22:28 Where to Get It 23:38 Closing Invitation    Buy the book   Find Dr. Matt Kodsi here   Julieharrisoliver.com

    24 min

  2. 19 May

    The First Work of Leadership: Wellbeing as a Foundation for Leading in Complexity with Dr. Michael Hein | Deep Work Out Loud

    Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dr. Michael Hein, author of "Shifting Toward Unorthodoxy," to discuss "the first work" of leadership: prioritizing wellbeing as foundational leadership work in volatile, complex environments, especially healthcare. Hein explains that leaders often forget they have a body, yet leadership performance depends on physical health, recovery, relationships, and spiritual meaning; without these, leaders struggle to stay composed, curious, and effective. He describes how socialized workplace norms push high performers to work harder rather than recover, and argues CEOs especially must model healthy boundaries because behavior sets organizational expectations more than words. Drawing parallels to athletic overtraining syndrome, he notes burnout reflects the same maladaptive effects of unrelenting stress without recovery. Hein recommends a regular recovery cadence—daily routines, monthly reflection time, and periodic longer breaks—planned on the calendar and approached as experiments. 00:00 Welcome to the Show 00:37 Meet Dr Michael Hein 01:41 From CEO to Coach 03:12 Defining First Work 04:39 Body as Leadership Platform 06:51 Why Self Care Fails 09:57 Leaders Set the Tone 14:30 Athlete Burnout Parallel 17:58 Cadence of Recovery 24:42 Start Small Experiments 28:34 Wellbeing Is Leadership Work 30:21 Wrap Up and Invitation    To find Dr. Hein   —MEDI Leadership's page:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/medileadership/ —Dr. Hein's page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heindoc/

    31 min

  3. 12 May

    Listening to Your Inner Compass: Intuition, the Rational Mind, and the Protector with Louise Hansell | Deep Work Out Loud

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes leadership coach Louise Hansell to discuss listening to and trusting your inner voice or "internal compass." Louise shares how she moved from corporate HR and transformation work into coaching, and explains that intuition is often subtle, felt through the body, and can be drowned out by societal, family, and logical "shoulds." They explore distinguishing intuition from the rational mind and a protective ego voice that reacts with fear and urgency, noting Louise's view that intuition appears in the first few seconds before other voices take over. Louise suggests building discernment through mindfulness, silence, and low-stakes experiments, using full-body cues like expansion, contraction, relief, tension, or persistence. They also address people-pleasing, clear no's, and tolerating uncertainty while doors gradually open. Louise closes with an Einstein quote about honoring intuition alongside reason. 00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:40 Meet Louise Hansel 02:18 Louise Coaching Origin 04:01 Theme Inner Compass 04:44 Hearing Versus Trusting 08:35 Body Based Yes No 09:29 Julie Pivot Story 13:32 Louise Three Voices 16:45 Naming Mind Protector 19:03 Ego and Body Listening 19:40 Mindfulness vs Thoughts 20:29 Silence and Inner Voice 23:02 Clean No Boundaries 25:15 Waiting for Doors 27:20 Trusting the Compass 28:48 Seattle Moving Example 31:26 First Three Seconds 32:42 Low Stakes Practice 34:41 Einstein Quote Wrap 35:30 Where to Find Louise 35:46 Final Invitation  Louisehansell.com

    36 min

  4. 5 May

    I Am Who I Am, Not What I Do: Dion Elliott Jensen on Identity, Ego, and Love-Based Leadership

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dion Elliott Jensen, author of "Conscious Footsteps," who describes becoming an "accidental author" by using writing and long walks to process intense life changes and consolidate his journals into a book structured as standalone "walks." They focus on Dion's central theme, "I am who I am, not what I do," shaped by being abruptly fired from a CEO role and realizing he had outsourced his worth to his job. Dion explores how "what do you do?" creates instant masks, bias, and power dynamics that block real human connection, and suggests asking disarming, deeper questions about who someone is. He reflects on hardship-driven ego death, and how he now leads with less outcome attachment, wider "guardrails," and greater softness, trust, and authenticity. 00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:39 Meet Dion Jensen 01:37 Why He Wrote 03:41 Core Theme Identity 06:05 Masks and Job Titles 12:28 Better Questions to Ask 15:46 Tell Me About You 18:50 From Ego to Love 20:55 I Am Poem Exercise 23:56 Leadership After Shift 26:05 Parting Advice and Links 27:13 Closing Invitation    Instagram: @dionelliottjensen Web: www.consciousfootsteps.com Amazon: https://www.amazon.com.au/stores/Dion-Elliott-Jensen/author/B0G3WJP22G?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

    28 min

  5. 28 Apr

    Time Billionaires: Reclaiming 90-Second Gaps for Happiness, Focus, and Agency with Rebecca Shaddix

    Host Julie Harris Oliver interviews business leader and Time Billionaires podcast host Rebecca Shaddix on reclaiming 90-second to 15-minute gaps between meetings to reduce frantic context shifting and improve happiness, energy, and fulfillment. Shaddix describes how a COVID-era habit of replacing scrolling with tiny actions—like brief audiobook listening, pushups, breathing, or stepping outside—compounded into hundreds of books a year and a research-backed framework of six micro-moment categories (reflection/mindset, connection, movement, nature/sensory awareness, play/creativity, and gratitude/mindfulness). She emphasizes planning ahead via a weekly Friday reflection ("what went well, what didn't, what do I want more of") and focusing on a realistic "floor" rather than aspirational "ceiling" goals. They also discuss labeling meetings with a single intuitive word to clarify next steps and reduce lingering anxiety, and the broader theme of agency over time as a guardrail against resentment and burnout.   00:00 Welcome and Format 00:36 Meet Rebecca Shaddix 01:50 Time Billionaires Origin 03:35 Why Micro Gaps Matter 08:38 Nature Minutes Add Up 09:10 Plan Your Micro Moments 09:38 Six Micro Moment Categories 10:24 Tiny Creativity Reset 13:31 Balance Without Perfection 15:21 Micro Workouts Not Gyms 16:13 ADHD and Starting Small 18:35 Stop Self Blame 19:14 Floor Not Ceiling 20:13 Mindful Micro Moments 23:11 Gratitude Deep Dives 24:37 Mindfulness Anywhere 25:31 One Word Debriefs 31:06 Reclaim Time Agency 34:10 Closing And Invitation

    35 min

  6. 21 Apr

    Leading with Humanity in a Polarized, Fast-Changing World with Dr. Kim Stepanski

    Julie Harris Oliver welcomes Dr. Kim Stepanski, an executive coach and organizational psychologist, to explore what leadership feels like right now amid rapid change, AI disruption, geopolitical volatility, and polarization. They discuss how leaders face loneliness, pressure to have answers, and the challenge of guiding teams whose perspectives are shaped by narrowing information "echo chambers." Kim emphasizes building capacity to see beyond one's own lens, getting comfortable with not knowing, and using reflection, connection, and community to stay grounded and humane. Julie shares practices such as acknowledging heaviness, simple meeting check-ins (e.g., green/yellow/red), and creating space for people to share what they're carrying without leaders needing to fix it. Kim describes using small experiments, grounding tools, and peer groups—especially for senior women—to build vulnerability, perspective-taking, and support, and closes with ways to connect with her online.   00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:33 Meet Kim Stepanski 02:17 Why Kim Chose Coaching 04:16 Leading Right Now 06:56 Filters and Echo Chambers 09:30 Simple Human Check Ins 12:26 Coaching Tools and Experiments 15:07 Practicing the Uncomfortable 15:53 Building Leader Community 20:37 Systems and Human Centered Work 26:42 Staying Grounded and Closing

    28 min

  7. 14 Apr

    Identity in Transition with Ben Basilan | Deep Work Out Loud

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes transition and emerging leaders coach Ben Basilan, who shares how layoffs in his industry and his background in counseling and UX research led him to coaching. They explore identity as a root issue in major transitions such as becoming a manager or small business owner, experiencing layoffs, divorce, aging, and retirement, focusing on what feels fixed versus changeable and how "inner saboteurs" formed in childhood can stop serving us. Ben describes growing up as a Filipino immigrant kid navigating cultural and emotional silence, moving states, and realizing he was gay, then later finding greater openness through grad school and counseling training. They discuss authenticity at work as a spectrum tied to psychological safety and how integrating Ben's identities as coach and researcher improved his motivation and communication. They also address identity clashes with loved ones amid polarized beliefs and the role of coaching in healing.   00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:31 Meet Ben Basilan 01:19 Why Ben Chose Coaching 02:10 Identity as a Theme 02:53 Transitions Trigger Identity 06:01 What Can Change 07:15 Roots of Rationality 09:33 Move South and Isolation 12:48 Coming Out and Becoming Whole 14:51 Authenticity at Work 18:40 Merging Work Identities 23:26 Life Stages and Reinvention 28:43 When Identities Clash 32:53 Coaching as Healing Purpose 33:54 Where to Find Ben 34:26 Closing Invitation

    35 min

  8. 7 Apr

    Living Your Authentic Self with Heather Pomerantz | Deep Work Out Loud

    Host Julie Harris Oliver welcomes executive coach and former CFO Heather Pomerantz to discuss living your authentic self through clarifying core values and purpose. Heather shares how her early love of listening and connection, a long achievement-driven finance career, and a Unilever purpose program led her to coaching when she realized she was in physical pain from misalignment. They outline steps: identify core values from a word list, narrow them, define what each means personally, translate them into "I am" statements, assess alignment, and decide what must shift to integrate joy now rather than waiting for "someday." They explore freedom as a sample value, signs of misalignment like anxiety and Sunday dread, authenticity in interviewing, and how leaders can improve results and retention by understanding employees' values and reshaping responsibilities.   00:00 Welcome to Deep Work 00:36 Meet Heather Pomerantz 02:23 Heather's Coaching Origin 03:32 Achievement to Purpose 06:20 CFO Misalignment Wakeup 08:17 Living Authentic Self 08:53 Find Your Core Values 11:36 Define Values and Freedom 13:47 Check Alignment and Shift 15:23 Why Wait Integrate 19:29 Lead Through Values 22:04 Strengths Versus Values 28:15 Values in Career Transitions 30:56 Somatic Signs of Alignment 34:19 Closing Takeaways and Links   Dr. Matt Kodsi's book: A Story Tale - ABC's of the stories we tell ourselves

    38 min
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Welcome to Deep Work: Out Loud, The thinking that fuels our life, our work, and our leadership. I'm Julie Harris Oliver. This is the podcast where I sit with another professional coach and we do some work around a single concept, piece of inspiration, a topic we've seen come up in coaching. If we're very lucky, while talking about it, we might demonstrate what coaching might look and feel like. But we'll see how this goes. It's all an experiment. With any luck, you will leave with something you can apply and use in your work or your life or both.

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  • Creator
    Julie Harris Oliver
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    23
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2025
  • Show Website
    Deep Work Out Loud

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